Now suffering with edema

Posted By Bonnie (Campton Ky) on 10/28/2013

I am a huge fan of Earth Clinic. I have had many health issues. I was taking several meds. Including high BP , thyroid, depression, athletes foot, PCOS, endometriosis. I am off from all those meds. And my CBC came back good. My problem is I seem to retain fluid. I can't seem to lose weight very easy at all. I don't drink coke. I have not drank coke in 2 months. I just think that I do have yeast or fugus going on within because of extreme fatigue, before I took matters into my own hands and starting experimenting with natural remedies. I have took borax, at 1/8 tsp per litter 3 or 4 times all together, also have used diamotaceous earth for about 3 months. I can't seem to get the weight issue under control, Also, I still can't get the edema under control. Please help! Also what kind of sea salt do you recommend? Can I buy it at a health food store?
REPLY         

Replied by Louwrence (Rustenburg, South Africa) on 10/28/2013

Hi Bonnie, It is easy to lose weight, just cut out all starches in all its forms & sugar, these things cause you to gain weight & not fats.
REPLY   1      

Replied by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 10/28/2013

Bonnie: The best foods eaten the right way are the cure. I have not been to the doc in 7 years, not even for a checkup. God checks me up with his goodies. I don't eat cooked improperly processed food, take meds, or isolated supplements. I eat raw organic, grass fed, and wild harvested concentrates because they are convenient and affordable. I also take ferments. Reply back and I'll be glad to give you some recommendations. You can google raw food for candida videos.
REPLY         

Replied by Wendy (Columbus, Oh) on 10/28/2013

For your edema, stop ALL forms of sugar, bread, and caffeine. Absolutely NO processed foods at all. Only eat fresh raw, or lightly-steamed, organic veggies. Organic fruits are OK in moderation. Make sure you eat good-quality protein (free-rang chicken, wild-caught salmon).

Stick to this plan for at least 2-3 months. Yes, MONTHS! You need to make the decision to be healthy and edema-free, and the first step, is to eat healthfully.

Oh, and don't forget to drink 1/2 your weight in ounces of good-quality water (purified/filtered).

REPLY         

Replied by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 10/29/2013

Bonnie: The Edema is likely your kidneys, so here's a few nutrients to help.

Taurine will help balance the minerals in the body and improve sodium excretion. Cranberry juice or Cranberry Softgels (no sugar in sg) helps clear infection in urinary track. Dr Christopher's Kidney/Bladder Herbal Complex will clean & strengthen the kidneys.

As for Sea Salt, do get the Iodized as the Iodine will help your thyroid (which helps metabolism thus weight loss).

REPLY         

Replied by Toourlady89 (Hayward Ca) on 10/29/2013

This is according to Edgar Cayce's book on Healing..

for Edema: Watermelon seed extract has been used as a home remedy for edema and problems in the urinary tract. Add six to 12 drops of watermelon seed extract to a cup of juice or water; this can be taken up to three times daily.

REPLY         

Replied by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/30/2013

Hello Bonnie,

Likely the edema, if it is not organ specific, such as a kidney or liver disorder, is rather related to heart issues. Your fatigue could be an indication of heart problems. Leg/foot edema has long been associated with the heart.

Fluid build up is from lack of good circulation from the arteries which means the veins aren't able to push the blood back throught via the muscles, because the muscles are lacking the power to send the blood back and the outcome is fluid build up.

So if the problem is heart, the root of your edema problem, then if this were me I'd get on the following:

1. Vitamin E, natural not synthetic bought at a health food store and not a drug store. Drug stores don't carry natural E. Start with 200 iu and increase after a month to 400 and after another few weeks to 600.

2. Magesium, 500 mg

3. Cayenne, 500 mg taken with meals

4. Arginine, 500 mg

5. The herb Hawthorn, 500 mg

You will know if this formula is working when your energy begins to return...within two weeks you will tell the difference and in a month your edema will get better.

Another piece of advice; do some exercise using the legs to help strengthen the leg muscles. Your muscles are likely weak due to the loss of blood flow from the arteries, and thus the leg muscles are not able to, in turn, contract with force sufficient to force the blood in the veins (within those muscles) back up to the heart. Do an exercise that makes you sprint for thirty seconds, then rest, then another thirty seconds of sprint; rest and one last sprint. The sprint is at your own pace, the idea being you are pushing the heart/lungs and LEGS to work. You do this as you are able. If you are out of breath in ten seconds of sprinting, then stop, get your breath and try another sprint...three times.

Do that sprint exercise three times a week. Dr Mercola has a lot on that on his excellent web site.

You have to take supplements because the nutrients in our foods have been depleted of the nutrients our forefathers had. Lack of crop rotation and dependence on pesticides have really hurt nutrition in America and most of the western world.

Dave

REPLY         

Replied by Milehighgirl (Denver, Co) on 01/13/2014

Mike62, If you're still following this thread, I would love to hear more of what you're doing. I have a very long story but am convinced everything is curable by diet and nutrition. Just haven't found the right combination yet but could use some help. Sue
REPLY   1      

Replied by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/14/2014

Milehighgirl: Funny you should ask because I am right in the middle of changing my meal plan. I have been on the 80/10/10 program recommended by Dr. Doug Graham candida natural news and raw food videos. I took organic whole cane sugar and raw honey for fruit, black chia seeds and coconut oil for fats, and the super foods for protein. I took the concentrates for cost and convenience. I also made home brewed water kefir. I fermented refrigerated bee pollen, fresh whole root turmeric, maca, yucca, and buckwheat. A week ago I found 1 1/2 lb. smoked wild Alaskan salmon. Eating that has changed the proportions. I actually feel better. Strength coaches recommend 60/20/20 so I plan on giving this a go for awhile. The other new project I've got in the pipeline is being shipped as we speak. Thanks to Ron Teagarden I plan on fermenting all the various adaptogens. Thanks for responding and please respond again.
REPLY         

Replied by Prioris (Fl) on 01/14/2014

Noticed someone mentioned coconut oil.

My brother has chronic edema in his legs. He has gotten cellulitis infection from time to time. He has usually used the wraps, diuretics and swimming in a pool to bring down the water over the years.

He bought some coconut milk just to try out for taste and not for medical purpose. He has noticed less edema since drinking the coconut milk. I gave him some coconut oil to try also. If I get anymore data I will report back.

REPLY   1      

Replied by Carly (Usa) on 01/14/2014

I just wanted to add that I would also do a web search of each and every medication your brother is taking to see if edema is a possible side effect of anything he may be taking. My mom had edema from a very common prescription a few years back....Best, Carly
REPLY         

Replied by Bonnie (Campton Ky) on 01/18/2014

Mike 62 I am sorry it took so long to reply. I have not been on Earth clinic in a while. I have been trying to eat better and exercise. It seems as if every time I get on track, I end up getting sick. I will do well for a week or so and then either I will get bronchitis or something. Then I can't stay on track because of not feellng like exercising or I will be to sick to fix the food to feel better. I am interested in your story, would love to hear more. I also have been making smoothies and doing some juicing. I am still struggling with the weight issue.
REPLY         

Replied by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/18/2014

Bonnie: Thank you for responding. A while back I was stiff, sore, tired, fat, and sick because I did not eat right, even though my dear mother cooked for the schools when young. Today I'm not because I learned to eat right. There are 2 programs. The concentrated powders I take are less costly and more convenient. Produce has kangan water that radiates far infrared waves, a very potent remedy not in powders. To remedy this I make home brewed water kefir. The microbes change ordinary water into the super water. 64 miles away in Louisville there is a Whole Foods. They have whole trade bananas. These are organic without the costly certification. The peel has most of the nutrients. You can make smoothies from 4 peels/day. Take 100g/day strawberries. Make green smoothies from baby leaves, chili, and parsley with any blender many times per day. 1/2 baby spinach is best. Baby leaves have growth factors, steroids, and hormones not in regular leaves. You can take raw honey and any fruit. Apples are highest in soluable fiber. Get some pastured vital eggs from Texas. Crack open and drop 3 into a cup. Crack the yolk with the teeth and eat raw. Eat 1/4 lb grass fed hamburger raw with the eggs once a day. Take 50g honey with the hamburger and eggs because insulin is required. If you have candida for one day eat just carbs. Then keep fat below 10% of calories. After recovering you can eat any percentage of carbs, fats, and proteins you want. Drink artesian or spring water. They have sun dried sea salt. For concentrates you can take whole cane, date, and palm sugars, activated barley, black chia seeds, coconut oil, Hawaiian spirulina, chlorella, raw cocoa powder, non denatured whey, colostrum, and desiccated liver. Take 1/2 saturated fat, 1/2 unsaturated, and 1/6 omega 3. Take the carbs, oils, and proteins together at the same time. Eat raw organic and grass fed. Take 5000iu d3/day.
REPLY         

Replied by Jenny (Il) on 01/19/2014

Try bromelain. I think it is a blood thinner do some research on this, but that will help the bronchitis. Bromelain is in pineapple so juice some pineapple
REPLY         

Back to Edema Q&A