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Help requested for son who developed problems after smoking potPosted By Ghawell99 (Milton, US) on 10/03/2014
About 2 years ago my son smoke some marijuana. After smoking the marijuana he had a bad trip afterwards. He begin to hallucinate, manic, and other strange symptoms. After about 2 days the episodes were down but not totally gone. But it appears that some strange behavior begin to display in my son. As if he is bipolar disorder or schizophrenic. He speaks really fast, often confused, sometimes perhaps once a month hallucinates. I have taken him to three doctors and they all have prescribe about four or five different medications and about 2-3 different diagnosis. I am at my end with this because I know it is some type of chemical imbalance. I'm thinking something in his blood from that first marijuana episode and it has not left his system to this date. Is there anyone out there that can help me, I beg I pleaded. I'm trying to find a cure for my son. The doctors want listen to me because I have told them from the start, this happened after a bad marijuana trip. But they say well in their 20s and is usually when mental illness start. My son was fine before that marijuana episode, whatever was in that marijuana went into my son system. All the doctors want to do is give him prescription medication.
Does anyone know anything I can do? Does anyone know a cure? Or naturopath or holistic path I can now take to treat my son.
I thank all and appreciate any help and Ted if you know of a path I can take please offer. What test and vitamins will he need? Help! Thank you
Replied by Mama to Many (Tennessee) on 10/03/2014
I am sorry your son is having such a hard time...
There are likely many different things you could try. A couple of things I would start with are:
Activated Charcoal Powder - 1 teaspoon in 8 ounces of water twice a day on an empty stomach (away from any medications.) Charcoal helps to remove toxins from the body.
Epsom Salt Baths - 1-2 cups in warm/hot water for 30 minutes twice a week.
How is his nutrition? Is he at home so you are able to help him a lot?
~Mama to Many~
Replied by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/03/2014
After Dr Hoffer passed away in 2009, other brilliant doctors -- such as Dr William Walsh -- carried the torch of both Dr Hoffer and Dr Pfeiffer and their research has moved on. Dr Walsh has identified that many illnesses -- including autism, ADD, PDD, Schizophrenia, bipolar etc are indelibly linked to the mis-operation of the body's Methylation Cycle. All these mental and physical problems are caused by either under-methylation or over-methylation. Schizophrenia and bipolar problems are usually symptoms of over-methylation issues. Under-methylation and over-methylation usually arise, for different reasons, because of what's called Methylation Cycle Blockades -- where the body is missing a nutrient like vitamn B6 or folate or B12 or DMG which then inhibits the production of proper catalytic enzymes for proper Methylation Cycle operation. The Methylation Cycle is hugely important to the body -- it governs the operation of the Homocysteine Cycle, Tran-Sulfuration Cycle and Folate Cycle in the body. This means that if these associated cycles are inoperative or below par, then there might be a possible huge lack of glutathione, zinc, taurine and cysteine in the body and high levels of homocysteine. So the key detox pathways of the body become very inefficient and incapable causing imbalance, high accumulation of heavy metals in the body and therefore high oxidative stess and inflammation.
More to the point, if the Folate Cycle or Homocysteine Cycle are impaired or blocked, then this can cause aberrant low-grade gene production in the brain cells and in the immune cells.
For now, your son should simply take this protocol every day which is basically Dr Abram Hoffer's simple protocol for people with schizophrenia or bi-polar symptoms:
Niacinamide(or niacin) -- 1 gram 3 times a day. Niacinamide does not give the niacin flush.
Pyrridoxine(Vitamin B6) -- 200 mgs once per day with meals
Zinc Gluconate -- 50 mgs daily with meals.
Vitamin C -- 1 gram with water 3 times per day.
The niacinamide will act to greatly reduce your sons anxiety, calm him down and will give him energy.The zinc and B6 will help to resolve possible other methylation cycle problems such as pyrroluria which commonly occurs with schizophrenics. And the vitamin C is there for faster healing.
I would also urge you to seek out a methylation-literate doctor for your son. I am not sure whether you live in Milton, MA or Milton, GA -- so here is a complete list of methylation-literate doctors in the US:
Methylation Literate Doctors in US
if you just go to a regular doctor -- he will probably give your son dangerously high doses of lithium carbonate and anti-depressants that will probably make his condition much worse and he will never recover. On the other hand, the methylation-literate doctors will actually try and cure your son of his problems using more healthful and beneficial nutrients and the most current research.
References:
Dr William Walsh -- Schizophrenia
Replied by Meeya (Sunnyvale, Ca) on 10/04/2014
If this is the case, he would be greatly helped by doing an internal cleanse. This would need to involve clean eating, followed by intestinal sanitation, antimicrobial therapy, and a heavy metal detox. This could take months to complete... so have faith and be patient. For more information, I would recommend Walter Last's Ultimate Cleanse Program (Toward Radiant Health).
In the meantime, Mama to Many had an excellent idea of taking activated charcoal and epsom salt baths, which will help a lot with detoxing him. Try that right away.
And definitely also go with Bill from San Fernando's advice... It sounds like a relatively easy protocol for profound results.
Have faith. I'm sure he will get better... especially with a wonderful mother like you to help him. Keep us posted on how he does.
Replied by Prioris (Fl, US) on 10/04/2014
Hallucination implies that something is not there and somehow we should just ignore it. Human senses are generally very limited in what they can sense.
All medical problems aren't just physiological problems. They can have spiritual causes. You need to look at all angles. I would suggest you contact a competent healing Medium (not psychic or channeler) and see if they can look at the problem from a different perspective. It has been suggested that many schizophrenics are just people whose psychic ability has gone wrong. Maybe there are other third party entities I.e. attachments involved also.
I've given you another possible option.
Replied by Meeya (Sunnyvale, Ca) on 10/08/2014
I do want to say though, that I have a friend who owns and operates a laboratory that serves the medical cannabis industry. They test for the presence of these pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, other chemicals, etc in the herb. From what he's told me, there are so many chemicals that can and are being used when growing the cannabis these days (not all... some grow all organically). There is one chemical, for example, that when ingested shows no side effects on the person, shows up as small side effects in their children, and shows up as sterility in the grandchildren. So its effects take a few generations to really manifest their devastation. He has also told me about how many of these chemicals are designed to be neurotoxic to insects (which is how they go about killing the insects). Unfortunately, they can also have neutrotoxic affects on humans. And those effects are even worse on children's /teens' brains who are still developing. Sometimes the damage is permanent / said to be irreversible. Although, I believe in the amazing healing power of the body, so I would never give up and settle for "irreversible."
Ghawell99, if you're reading this, I forgot to also add that Zeolite powder is great for getting rid of toxins, heavy metals, etc from the body. But if there is actual damage that also needs to be repaired, I'm not sure about that. I would do an internet search on "pesticide poisoning" or "toxin induced neuropathies" which could give you more information and a direction to take in your search for substances that can help heal him.
Replied by Timh (KY) on 10/09/2014
I worked w/ a guy once that told me he died from a PCP overdose. He and some friends were partying one afternoon and preparing to go to a rock concert. They added the drug to the marijuana and got very high and somehow made it to the show. They also brought some bottles of wine and added the PCP to it. The guy started going in & out and suddenly vomited all over everyone in front of him. His friends dragged him to the rest room where he continued to expel the contents of his guts with barely a chance to breath air, where the paramedics soon found him but it was too late. He left his body and floated upward and watched the medical team try and revive him. He soon reentered his body and miraculously made it back home. But that was just the beginning. He confessed to be very ill for nearly two weeks unable to eat or drink hardly anything. Could not smoke tobacco or be around tobacco smoke without getting sick.
Fast forward several yrs and read yet another account of a similar Marijuana laced PCP overdose NDE by David L. Oakford titled Journey Through the World of Spirit God, Gaia, and Guardian Angels.
Supplementing NAC and Calcium d-Glucarate will speed the removal of this or any other type drug or poisen from the body.
Replied by Timh (KY) on 10/10/2014
As a correction, PCP has not been used in veterinary medicine for several decades but was once popular.
Another treatment option is "Cold Showers". This remedy "shocks" the body/mind back to normalcy kinda like rebooting your computer, reinstalling operating system software, or reformatting a hard drive.
Replied by Ghawell99 (Milton) on 10/22/2014
To Mama to Many, I will try the Activated Charcoal Powder to remove toxins from his body and Epsom Salt Bath. I believe there are toxins in his system. Thank you and I will keep "you posted".
Bill, Thanks for the information on Dr. Hoffer, I will read up on this research. Thanks for the link to the methylation-literate doctors. These physicians are experienced in diagnosis and treatment of methylation imbalances. I never heard of this type of treatment. You are so right, regular doctors don't care I feel. Just prescript the next big medication and it does more harm than good. I will seek out Methylation-literate doctors if they seek out a cure and try a more healthful beneficial nutrients it would be awesome. Thank you for this reply.
Meeya, I will try the Zeolite powder. I will do research on "pesticide poisoning" or "toxin induced neuropathies". I think something in his system. I will keep the faith and thank you for your kind words. I awake everyday with my son on my mine, I not going to give up. I got some great advice here!
Prioris, I haven't thought about that spiritual cause. But it is an angle I want rule anything out! Thank you
Tim, you put in words what I have thought all the time. The initial trip was as if he was on PCP or some type of chemical as Meeya wrote.
I just everyone to know thank you so much for your help. This is a "WEALTH" of awesome information and treatment. I am so grateful to each of you and your help. You are are so kind. "Thank You" I will keep you posted.
Replied by Meeya (Sunnyvale, Ca) on 10/24/2014
