Julie (Washington) on 08/06/2023
For years I've been taking serrapeptase for arthritis. I just started taking thyroid medication (Armour) for hypothyroidism due to the removal of 1/2 my thyroid gland a few years ago. Since I have to take both serrapeptase and Armour on an empty stomach, I asked my MD if I could take them at the same time first thing in the morning (as I've been taking serrapeptase this way for years). She's not familiar with serrapeptase, so I'm hoping someone here on earthclinic has some experience taking these together?
Linda (Washington) on 02/01/2023
Serrapeptase.info has a lot of info on this natural enzyme.
Dr Hans Nieper, a famous German heart Dr and researcher, made this discovery - he gave large doses to these blocked heart patients that normally he would have done bypass surgeries. These large doses were to eat the plaque and he did not perform the surgeries. Dr Nieper and parents were all Drs - now deceased, made a lot of other discoveries I suspect it could be possible people with side effects might have ordered an off brand (maybe Chinese-or possibly the ingredients are from China) that caused their issues. I have several of Dr Niepers books. He was a blessed genius.
An example of eating scar tissue: My appendix was removed in 1951…..ugly raised fat scar until 2010 when I discovered this miracle for my hand/elbow surgery. All my scars are now thin white lines. One day I scratched my stomach and huh??? If scar crosses nerves or lays along side - common sense is scar tissue grows and presses on nerves causing pain. The elbow took a year for the pain to diminish and for the pain to go, but they moved the nerve.
I never have had an issue with serrapeptase, but maybe it is me that handles it well or the brand. Wish you well!
candigirltoo (WA) on 05/27/2022
Lad (Mid-Atlantic) on 11/23/2021
Warning
See my earlier comment about how Serrapeptase may actually damage joints further.
Using Serrapeptase to dissolve internal scar tissue can normally be a good thing, (ie endometriosis) unless that kind of scarring is also what patches-up joint damage (ie, splits in synovial tissue layers). Then it can cause more problems. A friend and I both found this out the hard way, repeatedly.
Another thing I am now very surprised to read is that Serrapeptase helps produce more Tumor Necrosis Factor - Alpha (TNF-A).
TNF-A has benefits in normal, youthful balance. BUT, it often gets overproduced with age and really contributes to autoimmune disorders and joint damage.
This may have been another reason why Serrapeptase, (for all its good benefits), was so awful to me and my friend's finger joints. This was in spite of my friend, at first calling it a "natural Ibuprofen." The damage soon followed.
I personally suspect the same, potential joint problems with other, inflammatory-reducing proteolytic enzymes I tried since then. It's just they are not as strong as Serrapeptase.
I would also be very wary of trying Serrapeptase to treat Rheumatoid inflammatory symptoms, because these are often treated with anti TNF-A drugs instead.
But so far, I've not noticed any of these concerns from using Nattokinase alone.
Natto seems to have noticeably improved my leg circulation, which is great news, but that's about it
It still doesn't help my allergies and sinuses like Serrapeptase miraculously did - (but at least it's not further injuring my hands.)
I hate throwing cold water on all the good things about Serrapeptase because it really benefited me too. But it also can have a pretty severe Dark Side for some conditions. So, you've been warned...
Warning About Serrapeptase and Heberden's Nodes Lad S. (Maryland) on 08/16/2021
BUT it also seems to have one, BAD side-effect for me.
I started to up my dosage to 60-120,000 SPU of a big Serrapeptase brand specifically labeled for "healthy sinuses." It was suddenly like a miracle for my chronic sinusitis and allergies - even better than using antihistamines or nasal steroids.
I emailed an online health-nut friend all about it. When he tried it, what he most noticed was dramatic inflammation relief. He started taking it in lieu of Ibuprofen, and told others about it, too.
In passing, I later mentioned how a thumb joint recently had a big "blow-out" injury - a huge, synovial cyst and subsequent stiff bone spur - which my other knuckles have suffered over the past decades - but this was bigger.
He replied that he, too, recently got two of them on his own knuckles for the first time.
He said that he read some online reviews mentioning this can happen when using Serrapeptase.
At first, I couldn't believe it, since Serrapaptase is supposed to help, not hurt joints. Nevertheless, we both backed off using it.
After my cyst didn't go away for over a year, I finally had it drained by a hand specialist, who warned it may return eventually (it did). He added that it is actually the BUILT-UP SCAR TISSUE WITHIN THE DAMAGED JOINTS that PREVENT further leakage and damage from happening.
"EUREKA! " I thought. While Serrapeptase may helpfully remove other painful, or swollen, internal scars, it could also work against a condition like mine.
My online friend gave Serrapeptase another go recently since he missed it so much for his bodily inflammation - and he got yet another blown-out knuckle.
I've since tried a number of other, alternate enzymes for my sinuses and arteries - and seemed to notice higher doses will start to swell and irritate my knuckles again before helping my nose or circulation out at all.
So, I'm truly sorry to warn against using Serrapepse to anyone who has a condition like mine (technically "Heberden's Nodes") or with any similar, joint issues.
(I read that there was once a Serrapeptase Nasal Spray available. A more direct, topical application of the enzyme sounded ideal for my sinus concerns - but it is no longer sold.)
peggy (northern california) on 05/20/2021
just fyi - I have been taking serrapeptase for about 15 years - sometimes over a million units in a day with absolutely no side effects. The brand I used sold out to a chinese corporation. I was not aware of that and purchased it after not having used it for a year. about 45 minutes after taking 2 capsules I experienced severe stomach cramps and nausea which lasted for about six hours. duckduckgoed it and found the China connection. threw it away and got my money back.
Recently tried another brand that stated 'made in USA which I know can mean 'assembled in USA from ingredients sourced from China. took two capsules and again experienced severe stomach cramps and nausea which lasted for three days. just contacted the company and asked if any of the ingredients were sourced from China. response:
'Could you please give me a call? Your question can be interpreted in a number of ways, and I’m not sure how to answer it in a concise manner.'
That answered my question in no uncertain terms. Threw it away.
Serrapeptase is a wonder supplement on so many levels. But there is a very good reason for people wanting their supplements to be 'china free'. I will now have to try another brand because it is well worth the trouble. I would very much like to name the two brands that made me sick but do not know if that is allowed. Just in case - they were Drs. Best and restoreActive
cheer and good health to us all -
p
Elaine (New Jersey) on 03/17/2021
In the article, it said that serrapeptase should NOT be used for people who have implants. Can you explain this in more detail to me? After surgery, my relative had a titanium surgical steel implant put in her neck. Lymph nodes began to swell on both sides of her neck and they cannot figure out why this is happening. She does take serrapeptase. My theory is the serrapeptase is affecting the surgical steel and her lymph nodes are trying to filter something that has become dissolved from the steel. I am wondering if this is possible. The surgery caused scar tissue for another of my relatives. He also has implants.
What can he use to try to prevent the growth of new scar tissue which results from the surgery to remove the old scar tissue. If you can suggest something that could be used, would it still be effective even after a period of time that the body has had to heal after his recent surgery? At this time, no natural remedies have been given, therefore scar tissue has probably begun to form.
If you have some suggestions, I would be very grateful. Thank you
Charity (Faithville, Us) on 11/05/2018
Lyn (Heber) on 09/06/2018
Sue (Ks ) on 09/05/2018
Caski (Herts, UK) on 09/05/2018
Cutting out dairy also helps too.
PS I take Natures Best 250mgââ¬â¹
Karen (Ma) on 09/04/2018
Mike (Mudgee) on 09/04/2018
Cheryl (Rochester, Ny) on 09/04/2018
To my amazement cyst was half the size. Nose polyps are gone too. In July I kept forgetting to take it and the cyst laid stagnant. I tried to remember what I was doing and realized it was the serrapatese. 1 month later almost gone. Funny thing with home remedies is that sometimes one doesn't know that they are working until you stop taking it. Lobellia and Muellein for respiratory same story. Stopped my drops woke up congested..hadnt't done my muellein and lobelia routine. Hope this helps.
Matt (Cambridge) on 09/04/2018
Anon (US) on 12/05/2014
I hope other Earthclinic Readers find success with Serrapeptase too.
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