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Probiotics for a Sinus Infection

Cindy (Illinois, USA) on 03/13/2024
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Find an image of the structure of your sinuses. Do a regular neti pot rinse, blow your nose really well, then do another neti pot rinse with a purchased probiotic nasal rinse, tipping your head around, as per the structure, being sure to bend over forward AND tip your head back - as well as tipping side to side from all positions - straight, bent over and with your head tipped back. Do that to distribute it throughout the sinus passages. You'll feel it. Just keep rinsing, stopping to tip your head around, then keep rinsing and doing that until the pot is empty.

I've had 3 sinus "things" since I had "the" bug three years ago and this time, it rapidly began migrating to my lungs but this stopped it. I only did it one time, before bed, and bronchial tubes and lungs were both clear by morning. Sinuses still a bit stuffy but I used just a very tiny pinch of probiotics from a capsule. I'm going to try some cultivated microbes I'm currently preparing as I suspect this infection is rebooting.

Can't be sure, but I know that microbial drain cleaners (probiotics) travel through the pipes - even CLIMBING if there's gunk to eat which is why you also want to use the drain cleaners before bed so that nobody is running water through the drains, rinsing them away.

Not sure if that's what happens with the nasal rinse but it would make sense as even that tiny amount cleared all of the upper respiratory areas - save a single small area that I can feel in my sinuses - but it cleared my broncial tubes and lungs which were NOT rinsed, so...

We naturally breathe microbes - including the probiotics that usually keep us safe - all the time from the air, but when one is indoors all day, with unfriendly microbes floating around and procreating and one is constantly blowing one's nose, one is also constantly expelling the probiotics that get shut into the house or office with us. Or, at least, that is my suspicion.

ANYway - VERY exciting! I would say that if you use microbes you cultivate, yourself, for instance, if you make LABS - I would guess that it wouldn't take much. For soil, it's used in a 1/1000 ratio - or even MORE diluted so, just be aware. I've purposely not done it again as I expect there are CONbiotics in the house and hope it will come back, at which point I will try LABS, starting with a very diluted mixture and see what happens.

What I used this time was just a tiny bit from a PB8 probiotic capsule in about a half cup of warm water with a pinch of salt and a pinch or two of sugar, to wake them up, as I don't keep milk on hand because I don't use it for anything but LABS, so I was out of LABS, but I got a little bottle of milk and I'm cultivating some microbes as I write this so I'll have some LABS in couple of days.

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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide for Sinus Infection - Need Advice, Please

Rob (Kentucky) on 11/09/2023
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In 1904, Charles Marchand publishes the last of a series of 18 books on hydrogen peroxide as a treatment for typhoid fever, gastric ulcers, bronchitis and tuberculosis and more other disease. This is the most in depth study I’ve ever read.

From the book - The Therapeutical Applications of Peroxide of Hydrogen, Hydrozone and Glycozone, by Charles Marchand 9th Ed 1895

GENERAL DIRECTIONS FOR APPLYING

PEROXIDE OF HYDROGEN (MEDICINAL), H2O2, IN THE TREATMENT OF DISEASES CAUSED BY GERMS.

NOSE. —THROAT AND CHEST DISEASES. -TREATMENT.

CATARRH OF THE NOSE AND CATARRH OF THE THROAT.

Causes: Micro- organisms, principally of the micrococcus species have been detected by microscopical examinations, by scientific men and by myself, in the mucous discharges from the nostrils of persons afflicted with this disease. Those germs which are the cause of the infection are readily destroyed by Peroxide of Hydrogen (medicinal), and there is no danger for the patient to use these remedies in any quantity, as both are positively harmless.

Treatment: By means of an atomizer, made of glass and hard rubber, spray the nose and the throat copiously and repeatedly twice or three times every day with a mixture of:

1 tablespoonful Peroxide of Hydrogen, (medicinal), with 4 to 10 tablespoonfuls of distilled water (cold or lukewarm).

According to the degree of inflammation in the mucous membranes of the nasal cavities ; and, in case of extreme sensitiveness, use even still a larger proportion of water.

NOTE—In the absence of an atomizer, apply the remedy to the nose by sniffing the liquid from the hand through the nostrils repeatedly, and gargle the throat. It is always beneficial to swallow the remedy. Do not blow the nose too hard, as it might cause a temporary bleeding. In chronic cases of long standing, especially at the beginning of the treatment, when the tenderness of the mucous membrane is excessive, it often happens that the patient will feel, during one hour or so after each application of the remedy, a partial obstruction of either one or the other of the nostrils.

This very unpleasant feeling is often accompanied by frequent sneezing, which is due to the tickling sensation produced in the nasal cavities by the presence of a great quantity of minute bubbles of "O2, " being set free from the decomposition of Peroxide of Hydrogen coming in contact with the infected surface. The unhealthy secretions are destroyed by "O2" and the cleansing of the nostrils is made perfect.

In chronic cases, when the middle ear is affected, deafness is often the consequence of this disease. Then ozonized vapor inhalations should follow immediately the spraying of the nose and the throat, and should be administered by means of Hand Atomizer and Ozonizer, with a mixture thoroughly made of:

half Peroxide of Hydrogen (medicinal) and half chemically pure glycerine.

Renew the mixture every three days. It is important that the above mixtures should be made perfect by shaking the bottle well, otherwise the spray-tube of the apparatus might be clogged on account of the syrupy nature of the glycerine

A permanent cure may be effected in a very short time.

When chronic Catarrh of the Nose is very tenacious and painful, it is necessary at night, before retiring, to apply a few drops to the nostrils. Sniff it hard, as it will accelerate the cure.

In many cases the incurability of Chronic Catarrh of the Nose is due to partial or complete obstruction of the nasal cavities, caused by some abnormal conditions of growth, differing in their nature.

When such is the case, apply Peroxide of Hydrogen, as heretofore explained, morning and evening. After ten or fifteen days, if the excrescence does not disappear, it will be necessary to have a surgical operation performed for its removal.

After the excrescence has been removed or destroyed by means of the thermo-cautery, or any other operation (no caustic should be used, as it will most likely destroy both taste and smell), an absolute cure is certain if the above treatment is earnestly followed.

The profession well know that the therapeutical agents used for the treatment of this disease have been as follows: Bichloride of Mercury. -Calomel. —Sulphate of Zinc. -Sulphate of Copper.-Alum. -Nitrate of Silver. -Carbolic Acid. -Salicylic Acid. -Permanganate of Potash . -Borax. -Boracic Acid. —Subnitrate of Bismuth. -Common Salt. Muriate of Ammonia. -Extract of Eucalyptus. -Thymol. -Cocaine. -Camphor, etc.

It is easy to understand why Peroxide of Hydrogen (medicinal), will surely accomplish a permanent cure.

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Cayenne for a Sinus Infections

Deb B. (Costa Rica) on 09/26/2023
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Cayenne for Sinus Infections

I was dubious, but miserable enough to try cayenne based upon the positive ratings. I'm SO glad I did!

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Oregano Oil for Sinus Infections

Michelle (CT) on 08/28/2023
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Oregano oil from Swanson 10/1 5 caps x3 daily. for 10 days. This will also kill a UTI in 24 hours. Oregano oil can lower iron, so I take some extra while taking this. My history with sinus issues is epic. Starting at 15 [ I am now 63 ] Years non stop antibiotics. I developed a cyst in my left cavity the size of a grape that needed to be surgically removed. I was told I had be flat on my back for 10 days. Just not happening. Got a recommendation for another doctor. Diagnosed a congenital deformation in my left sinus that prevented it from draining completely. Surgery would have been a waste. He put me on claritin x 2 daily - Sudafed x 2 daily and simple amoxicillin. for 30 days. Day 28, after increasing pain and many assurances from the doc to just be patient, I hear a loud snap in my head and suddenly it felt like a fan just got turned on inside my brain. All I needed was to dry it out. The doc told me if I took one Sudafed every morning, I would never get another infection again. That was 27 years ago. Since I have serious allergies, I doubted his assertion. I've only had 4 and now I take the oregano oil at the 1st sign. Oregano oil is being studied for Lyme disease. It's amazing.
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Goldenseal for Chronic Fungal Sinus Infections

Rob (Kentucky) on 08/27/2023
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GOLDENSEAL ROOT NASAL SPRAY for CHRONIC FUNGAL SINUS INFECTION

I had a client come to me with chronic sinusitis. She has been to the doctors many times over the past 6 months and has been prescribed different antibiotics and nasal sprays (Fluticasone) with no relief.

Since she was not responding to any anti-biotic treatment made me suspect she had a fungal infection and these lame doctors are not treating the underlying problem. Plus, researchers at Mayo Clinic discovered that sinusitis, an inflammatory disease, is caused by yeast 96% of the time and cured by anti-fungals. Fungi are the major cause of a chronic sinus infection. Individuals with weak immunity are more susceptible to such infections.

According to research, chronic sinusitis (there is also acute sinusitis) is a consequence of an immune disorder triggered by fungus. Back in 1999, a research team discovered that there were fungal organisms present in the mucus of 96 percent of patients who underwent chronic sinusitis surgery. Namely, fungus and mold spores are in the air all the time and therefore, we inhale them and they stay in the sinuses’ mucus lining. Since yeast are opportunistic organisms that flourish as immune function declines, it becomes obvious why these diseases are seen more. People who are more prone to chronic sinusitis will experience an immune response to the fungi, which will further cause sinusitis signs. This is why antifungals will be much more effective than antibiotics in treating the problem. Antibiotics do nothing to kill fungal infections and I believe they make things worse.

Results

She said she could see results after the 3rd spray. In less than one week, she is 90% better.

About Goldenseal Root

Goldenseal Root (Parts Used: primarily the root, to a lesser extent leaves) is widely used in many herbal salves and ointments as a disinfectant. Goldenseal root contains berberine and hydrastine which have a broad-spectrum antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral action. Goldenseal root was used by Native American tribes, including the Cherokee and Iroquois, as a yellow dye and for health conditions.

The herb's primary value is as an infection fighter for upper respiratory congestion and sinus infections as well as a topical antibiotic in skin infections, staph infections of the skin, cuts, wounds, sore throats, mouth ulcers, athlete's foot, ringworm, bronchitis, colds, whooping cough, pneumonia, gastritis ulcers, eczema, psoriasis, constipation, acne, thrush, recurrent ear infections, vaginitis, urinary tract infections, and eye infections (such as conjunctivitis and blepharitis).

How to make a Goldenseal Root Tincture Sinus Spray for Chronic Fungal Sinusitis

Material needed:

* 30ml empty clean nasal spray bottle

* Distilled water

* Goldenseal Root Tincture 1oz (must be alcohol-based ~ Not Glycerin based)

Recipe:

1. Add 15ml Goldenseal tincture to an empty nasal spray bottle. (1:1 ~ v tincture to water)

2. Top off bottle with distilled water.

How to use:

1. Use this spray twice in each nostril 2-5 times daily for a few weeks to resolve sinus infection.

Note: It stings a little for about 15 seconds but after that you're good to go.

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Hydrogen Peroxide and Sea Salt for Sinus Infections

Alyda (Calgary, AB) on 06/09/2023
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Thirty years after a botched root canal (dentist punctured my sinus cavity with his root reamer) and a million sinus infections I finally found this website. I was skeptical (and worried) that this wouldn't work for me but I was wrong! I used a cup of distilled water, a packet of saline solution, and a capful of 3% HP solution. No irritation, and my stubborn left side is starting to loosen up. Hallelujah!!
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Goldenseal for Sinus Infections

freeone (oregon) on 03/17/2023
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This is very effective for sinus infections.

Goldenseal tincture, I have from Earthpharm.

Use 1/2 dropper in 1/2 teaspoon salt solution. I used a dropper with my head tilted to ceiling, one dropper of the mix into each nostril. It didn't burn at all. It helped more than anything so far. Also drank a cup of water with a 1/2 dropper of goldenseal tincture. As GS also has berberine it passes through the blood-brain barrier, it's powerful, and helping as mentioned -more than any other remedy.

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Vibration for Sinus Drainage

Morninglaurie (Michigan) on 02/27/2023
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I discovered this by accident…washing my face in the shower with an oscillating face brush. I had a terrible sinus infection, nothing was helping. I tried almost all of the other things posted here…2 weeks flat on my back. So after running hot water over my face, used the face brush, and accidentally crushed the bristles so that the backer was against the corner of my nose and felt the urge to sneeze as it vibrated. Interesting. So I crushed the bristles under my cheekbones and just let it vibrate. Moved it around..a little at a time, letting it vibrate each time for maybe 30 seconds. Didn’t realize it because I was already wet, but my nose started running. When I discovered it, I reached out of shower for a Kleenex, and blew….infection.

Oh my gosh it was finally moving. And my head no longer felt like it was ready to explode. So after that every few hours, I wrapped the bristles in a cloth so as not to scratch, and after heating my face with a warm rice pack, I would vibrate my sinus cavities. Every time I was able to blow out infection.

Now, I am still using the neti pot also with povidone iodine, Grapefruit seed extract and xylitol and now that is helping to rinse out mucous (hadn’t touched it before). Still draining a few days later, but I am not coughing after sleeping where the drainage settles in my airway, and am feeling almost human again. Will be ordering a silicone face cleaner/massager that vibrates so the bristles wont be an issue.

I have tried almost everything, including pressure points and massage, cayenne pepper drinks, honey, cider vinegar, sage tea, peroxide, povidone iodine, GSE, xylitol in the neti pot, etc. with no success. I used to be able to forestall an infection if I used the neti pot as soon as I could feel one coming on, but that no longer stops an infection for me. I don’t see a lot of research out there….wondering if I do this on a regular basis will it keep sinuses open?

I hope this helps someone out there..

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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide for Sinus Infection - Need Advice, Please

sharon (BC) on 02/20/2023
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I use hydrogen peroxide (about 4-5 drops) in a nettie pot with himalayan salt and cleansed nasal cavity with great success. Also do hydrogen peroxide in a track S nebulizer. It does not take much in either device, I use them both and have had amazing relief by cleansing sinus pathways as well as lungs.
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Hydrogen Peroxide for Sinus Infection - Need Advice, Please

Lee (BC) on 01/18/2023
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I've had a sinus infection which started from covid in early Nov. I started using Hydrogen Peroxide nasal rinse with 8oz distilled water, 2 tablespoons of food grade peroxide, neil med saline pouch, and a drop of baby shampoo. I did neil med bottle 3 times each of the 2 days.

My nose feels better, but im still a bit stuffy, especially at night with a white cloudy frothy mucus with the odd (5) small red spots of blood. Not sure if this is the virus that has been sticking around or is it from the peroxide?? I'm also wondering what adjustments I need to make to get rid of it

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Hydrogen Peroxide for a Sinus Infection

Lee (BC) on 01/16/2023
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Oh my god! I had covid 2.5 months ago and I was in hospital 3 times the first 3 weeks...i was coughing and phlegmy and stuffed up and I had 2 courses of antibiotics when no help at all. I have been dealing with difficulty getting full breathes and the stuffy post nasal drip was making me cough like crazy. I have been so miserable and almost depressed. First off, I heard about hydrogen peroxide in the ears and at this point I had tried every natural remedy I could buy. must have spent close to $500 on vitamins and remedies at natures fair market. I put the drops in last night and I was 90%..it was within minutes, maybe 5 min in each ear. Then I read these posts and I did a nasal rinse and gargle and I felt clear and the best I felt in a long time...amazing! I did a rinse solution of TBSP of Hyrogen Peroxide, 8oz of distilled water, neilmed saline pouch x1, and a drop of baby shampoo. I'm going to do this 2-3 times a day. I will also do a gargle 2x and ears 2x...I hope I only have to do it for 2-3 days. My only thing now is getting inflammation down cause in my nostrils still look small and constricted..question: Will this solution help inflammation over time or should I be adding something else to help with that?
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Saline Rinse for a Sinus Infection

Donna (Hyde Park, NY) on 12/10/2022
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Husband has a Nasiline nose syringe...don't have a neti pot. I decided to try it with pink salt 1/4 t. in about 1 quart of water. I went back and forth between nozzles and one of the things that came out was what looked like a plug of dense mucous. Now I can breathe. First time for me and I am going to repeat several times today. I've had nasil congestion/cough for almost 4 weeks...WAY too long.
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Coconut Oil for Sinuses - Yikes!

Denise (California) on 10/06/2022
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My experience with using coconut oil in the nose and sinuses was Extremely difficult! I'm glad it helped some people but I would not do it again. It was like entering into a battle without knowing it!

I read a number of very encouraging posts about coconut oil in the nose & sinuses to clear up a sinus condition. I first tried it very gingerly by breaking a Q-tip in half and putting a little in each nostril, but not up beyond where the nose starts narrowing at the bridge. The next day my breathing was a little better. Then I did the same thing the next day but went up higher carefully with the Q-tip. The next day my breathing was even little better. The next day I melted some coconut oil and let it cool to warm, laid on my back and with my husband's help, driped maybe 1/8 tsp into the nose on each side, and turned my head side to side so the coconut oil could flow into the sinuses on the sides. The next day I was blowing my nose some and had a little sneezing. I thought, good it's cleaning some of that stuff out. I did the same thing a few days in a row but it didn't seem to make much difference. Then I used 2 or 3 times more and I hung my head upside-down so the oil could go into all sinuses, including on the forehead.

A couple days later I was blowing nose and sneezing like crazy. I had to constantly stuff kleenex up my nose and blow nose very often. The amount of sneezing and congestion was tiring, inescapable, miserable. But it got even worse, a couple days later I had thrush, a candida infection in the throat. I started gargling every day and painting the throat with a paste of baking soda and a bit of water. A few days after that both eyes especially one, had conjunctivitis and eyelids could not open very well. I kept one eye closed all the time because it was easier. I used various methods to treat the eyes. Salt water at times and boric acid other times, three or four times a day. Both were somewhat helpful, but the eyes took at least 3-4 months to mostly clear up. After a month or so I was only using the boric acid and salted water once or twice a day. One eyelid still did not open fully until about 9 months later. Sinus congestion, runny nose & sneezing went on in a Torrential way for about 3 weeks. Basically all I was doing was nursing all of my symptoms, sometimes looking on the internet for possible relief, Nothing else. After about 3 weeks it started easing up slowly but was still severe for several weeks more.

I now believe that I had a candida overgrowth in the sinuses (possibly especially bad in sinuses of the forehead). After using coconut oil I think that as candida was getting drained out of the sinuses some of it landed on my tongue and throat and created a thrush infection, and some traveled into the eye sockets creating eye infection.

Currently I am using a product called Xlear, spritzing 1 spray up each side of the nose twice a day. I think it's keeping the candida under control, but not diminishing it.

Denise
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Oregano Oil for Sinus Infections

Sakkwa (Bedford, Virginia ) on 07/31/2022
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I had heard of this b4 but never tried it. To make a long tale short, went camping, came home with sinus infection. Been suffering for a couple days stumbled upon this article. Being a Native person, we have some herbs. Happened to have the Oregano Oil. So I gave it a try. Within minutes, I cleared stuff out and began to breath so much better. I will most definitely continue use. Thank the Lord above and you for posting this article. I pray he blesses you for helping others with this info. Bezon!
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Remedy for Sinus Infections

Nicole (Dallas, TX) on 07/29/2022
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For those of you not getting results with hydrogen peroxide. Remember, it is good for only about 6 months after you open the bottle.

So get yourself a new bottle. When you open it, write the date on the label so you know when it becomes unusable.

A sealed bottle is good for about 3 years if you keep it in a cool environment. But once you unseal it, you only have 5-6 months before it degrades and becomes ineffective. Also, don't dip anything like a q-tip or finger in the bottle. That makes it degrade faster.

If it doesn't fizz, it's likely degraded. I learned this the hard way with a sinus infection that wouldn't go away. My bottle had been open about a year. As soon as I got a new one, things changed and it started working.

Check Google for more information about the lifespan of hydrogen peroxide. Hope you are able to resolve your health issue whatever it is.

Nicole
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Oregano Oil for Sinus Infections

Robert S. (USA) on 06/22/2022
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Oil of oregano is one of the most potent anti pathogens available. It kills everything including the good bacteria in your gut so taking it longer than 10 days is not recommended. You can make it yourself by soaking it in olive oil for a while to extract the active ingredients.

For simple ease of use, I just buy the oil in supplement form & use it as needed. You could also try to wash your nasal passages using a regular nasal saline squeeze bottle, no need for Nettie pots or wasting money on them, the standard nasal saline bottle works better, you can control the Flo better so no pain or discomfort & can be used to just rinse out the nose with plain water.

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Oregano Oil for Sinus Infections

UnDoctor (South Carolina) on 06/18/2022
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dir="ltr">Prior to using oregano oil blend (OOB), whenever I felt a cold coming on, I would gargle and/or use a qtip with 50/50 Hydrogen Peroxide and water to swab the inside of my nose. This worked well to hold off most infections, but there were times that swabbing the nose was not enough to reach the deepest regions of the sinus cavity.

I had been googling the topic and stumbled across people inhaling or using the neti pot to solve the problem. Since I wasn’t interested in using a neti pot, it seemed logical to me to somehow get the OOB vapors into my nose and throat. The good news is that it was VERY EASY, and quick. All I had to do was microwave half a cup of water in a mug for 2 min and put 2 drops of OOB in it. Once it was ready, I would take 20 to 30 deep breaths (working my way up to it, since the first few inhalations sting) over the next couple of minutes (with eyes closed, otherwise it will sting your eyes). The great thing about OOB is that it has multiple traits. It’s anti-microbial, anti-viral, anti-inflammatory, and anti-oxidant. But the thing that really surprised me is that it’s also an anesthetic/analgesic.

So, while the first 10 sniffs stung, after a while the stinging went away and OOB’s analgesic property kicked in. Any pain or discomfort in my sinuses or throat was pretty much eliminated, and that lasted many hours. If the pain lingered I would do another round. That alone (the pain relief) would be enough to recommend the regimen, but it also hits the viruses and bacteria causing the problem. Wow! And to cap it all off, each “treatment” costs about 3 cents.

To be clear, if your pain is in your sinuses, inhale via your nose. If it’s in the throat, inhale through your mouth. With throat pain, I would also do the water/peroxide gargle to hit it from both sides.

Without any doubt, this is the MOST powerful thing in my arsenal to fight colds and viruses. It’s truly amazing. And I’m shocked that there’s not been more written on the Internet about this. Most people recommend putting a few drops of OOB under the tongue, but I’ve tried that, and it doesn’t compare to the immediate benefits of inhaling it. I hope you try this out and reap the benefits. God Bless you all!

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Hydrogen Peroxide for a Sinus Infection

Lorel (WA) on 04/10/2022
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I caught a sinus infection (stuffy nose was the only symptom) when my husband was in the hospital and so I couldn't visit him. A family friend reminded me of H2o2 that he's been taking for years so I used the recommended dose in the book "the One minute Cure" by Madison Cavanaugh:

Take 35% food-grade H2o2 and dilute it to 3% (one oz of food-grade 35% H2o2 + 11 oz of distilled water = 3% of Food Grade H2o2). Then put the 3% in a spray bottle. Spray into your nose and mouth every 2 hours and when spraying into the mouth breathe in deeply.

My sinus infection and all related symptoms were gone in 48 hours.

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Colloidal Silver for Sinus Issues

Dave (Wichita Kansas) on 04/01/2022
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I have gerd and reoccurring sinus infections that turn into ear infections. I started using colloidal silver a couple of months ago and cannot believe the difference in my sinuses it actually helps me control them and keep them at bay.
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide for Lung and Sinus Issues

mmsg (somewhere, europe) on 02/02/2022
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It seems I might have written this already, but it's worth mentioning again: for any lung and/or sinus issues, we have seen enormous success with this simple h2o2 breathing technique: about 4-5 times a day, spritz two-three second's worth of h2o2 (plain drug store kind) in a mug of boiling water and just breathe the vapors. No need for towel or any fancy stuff. Within a week one will be hacking up and/or blowing out through the nose, all kinds of nasties (which almost scared someone into stopping, but thankfully they persevered) and within a month or maybe a month and a half, no more snoring, no filling up endless tissues, more energy (maybe from more oxygen getting to where it should) etc. Later, maintenence dose would probably be once a day.
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