Rob (Kentucky) on 01/18/2024
I have found this formula to be helpful with pain and arthritis in my hands.
Hungary water (sometimes called "the Queen of Hungary's Water", Eau de la Reine de Hongary, or "spirits of rosemary") was one of the first alcohol-based perfumes/liniment/elixir in Europe, primarily made with rosemary. The oldest surviving recipes call for distilling fresh rosemary and thyme with brandy (vodka modern way), while later formulations contain wine, lavender, mint, sage, marjoram, costus (true ginger), orange blossom and lemon.
According to legend, it was formulated at the command of the Queen Elizabeth of Hungary, sometimes identified as Queen Isabella of Hungary or in one document "Saint Elisabeth, Queen of Hungary". Some sources say that a hermit, witch or monk-recluse first gave it to the Queen of Hungary, though most likely it was made by a monk-alchemist or a band of roaming gypsies. The water was given to the queen in order to help her headaches, and is a cure for rheumatism or gout which the queen suffered in her old age or as a rejuvenation treatment. These legends mostly date to the early to mid-17th century, so the details may have become confused in the intervening centuries.
Ingredients: (Original Recipe from 1370 A.D.)
1. Pour all the herbs into a one quart widemouthed glass mason jar
2. Add vodka to jar; close the jar tight and let it sit in a warm spot for 6 weeks or longer shaking occasionally (Hippocrates states both herbs must be steeped for a minimal of 6 weeks)
3. Strain out the herbs with a fine mesh – try and get all the bits out
4. Re-bottle the mixture and store in a cool, dry place
How to use:
I put this mixture into a spray bottle and spray topically on my hands at nite before bed. You will see a huge difference in your hands if repeated daily. The early recipes advise the user to also drink the tonic (though I would definitely say that you check with your doctor on that first! ).
Mary (MT) on 06/20/2023
For debilitating osteoarthritis where bilateral hip surgery is scheduled & the only "apparent" answer according to mainstream...
I am on my second dose of honey cinnamon right now. I did not need my crutches when I got up in the middle of the night -- bathroom break awoke me not pain.
Made another cup & will report back. I hope this helps someone else with joint pain.
Mary M. (Arcadia, CA) on 08/03/2021
Blessings,
Mary M.
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Darmae (Mercer, PA ) on 11/28/2020
Since it’s cheaper I started taking the borax powder more recently. I did get nauseous taking 1/8tsp, so I cut it back to 1/16tsp. I’ll try 1/8tsp again after a few weeks.
Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/25/2018
I told her about the honey and Blackstrap Molasses post I saw here as well, she's just ecstatic about the pain being gone. She is 76 and had this for about 20 years at least.
Littlewing (Boston) on 08/04/2018
For the past few years, I've been developing bumps on the top bony joints of both index fingers. In my research I've discovered they appear to be Heberden's Nodes – they're bony swellings that form on your hands as a result of osteoarthritis. And they make using that finger or fingers incredibly painful. Starting earlier this spring the one on my left hand was really bothering me, couldn't use it, had to be conscious of not using it for anything or the pain would shoot through me. (ever try to function without your index fingers? it's very challenging).
In the last few months, I've also been getting foot cramps in the middle of the night. Wake-up-cry-out-loud-foot/toe-twisting foot cramps. (I know, I need to drink more water too).
For foot cramps, I use magnesium oil for almost immediate relief. I also use magnesium oil on my legs for my restless legs. In an effort to be proactive in the last few weeks I've been rubbing magnesium lotion on my feet and massaging them for a few minutes each night before bed. I found this great lotion that's cocoa butter with magnesium oil. Or I use my MSM lotion and mix it with my spray mag oil. Like a lightbulb going on the other day, I realized my finger hasn't hurt me in a few weeks. Hasn't hurt AT ALL. Magnesium to the rescue....
AGAIN. I use it for so many things, I don't know how people can live without it. I hope everyone tries it, it has so many uses. I wasn't even using it on purpose for my fingers, but I got results as a side effect of trying to fix my feet. Sweet!
Iowama (Usa) on 03/22/2018
When I first started daily use of a tea made with ACV, it helped. I was in my early 50s then and had ended a career in hands on horticulture. I too woke up with aching hands in the night. I'm closer to 60 now and no longer drink that tea, because other things have helped more. I make bone broth to drink and to cook with. I really believe in that broth as a great help for arthritis! I strive to eat no sugar, gluten, or soy. I only eat Irish butter (higher fat content than US butter) and some goat products for dairy, but am cognizant that too much dairy can cause inflammation. I try to eat 7-9 cups of colored vegetables or berries per day. drink plenty of water, and limit alchohol. I take a B complex, magnesium, potassium, CoQ10, and an eye vitamin each day. I seem to be getting the needed minerals by using pink salt. If I wake up at night, my palms do feel a bit knotted, but I continue to work with my hands each day and am, basically, pain free.
For me, there was no single supplement that did the trick; just the overhaul of my diet. When people on this site speak of Alkalizing the body for health, this is what they mean.
T (Albert Lea, Mn) on 08/24/2016
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Chrisf (Surrey Uk) on 06/11/2016
I have read about the use of ginger to ease Osteoarthritis. I have also used Apple Cider Vinegar as an additive with honey to relieve sore throat, sinus symptoms etc.
I must report though that you need to be really careful with the amount of ACV you use. One of the ingredients is Potassium Metabisulphate. Too much of this can have bad effects on different parts of the body. I started to get quite serious difficulty in passing urine. My thought process went into rewind to find a reason why I suddenly found it so difficult to pass urine and using a catheter was very painful during insertion when the tip of the tube got to the point where the prostate is.
I did some research about Potassium Metabisulphate and discovered that one of the side effects over too much in the body can cause swelling of certain parts of the body.....fingers, toes, extremities, but also the prostate. What was happening is that my prostate was swelling up and pinching the urethra and stopping urine flow. I stopped using ACV and within 3 to 4 days the symptoms disappeared.
I then read about ginger and results to ease Osteoarthritis. So I followed quantity recommendations and used fresh ginger root every other day. However the symptoms experienced with too much ACV returned. I checked the suggested quantity amount, but I also checked what components make up ginger. I was surprised to see that ginger is very high in Potassium. So I stopped this too and my symptoms disappeared.
Another vegetable that does similar things is Asparagus, be careful with this one too.
The moral here is to be very careful with things that are high in Potassium. Too much of it can actually be very dangerous.
Chrisf (Surrey, Uk) on 04/01/2016
The reason for the use is to bring relief for sinus congestion and frequent sore throat.
What has happened though has taken me a bit by surprise. My increasing symptoms of Osteoarthritis have been brought under control, the pain is significantly reduced. My energy levels are increased, my sinus congestion is reduced, my sore throats ..... almost gone! The surprise though is the change to the Osteoarthritis. I suffer with this in my wrists and hands.
The mix I use is as follows: One dessert spoon of good quality honey, 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass and half filled with warm ( partly cooled boiled water ) stir until dissolved and just drink it down or sip it. It is quite palateable. I drink this in the morning.
Mike (Reading, Pa) on 03/01/2016
Subsequently, the Lord has sent scores of individuals into my path who also had osteoarthritis and He had me give my testimony about this wonderful remedy and person after person has reported the same wonderful results by doing the organic broccoli. Some of those got rid of their arthritis in one or two weeks. Praise The Lord!
Genny (Inglewood, California) on 11/24/2014
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Carolinaheart (Hartsville, Sc) on 09/27/2013
Stephanie (Vancouver, Wa) on 08/08/2013
I just started taking the ACV, baking soda and honey concoction tonight. Thank you so much!
Om (Hope, B.c., Canada) on 06/28/2013
Osteoartrithis is, in the books of alternative meds. Due to lack of minerals. Anyway, I love BSM and for almost three months took a large tbsp. Diluted in hot water twice a day, drinking with a straw. After almost twelve weeks my pain was gone for over four years. ACV is essential to remove calcium deposits from the joints according to Dr. Lust and these two remedies should be taken together. BSM has lots of minerals and natural iron. Prescribed iron will bring problems such viral invasions according to my experience, but not natural iron content.
According to Bragg, ACV should be taken with a tsp. of honey (or BSM) for the valuable minerals which have not been assessed so far. Honey is not straight sugar. It has been used to cure diabetes if used over time in daily doses.
So, this is my experience. Even though I have diabetes, I am using BSM daily for its invaluable benefits. Anyway, this is another subject. It comes to mind that, a couple of years ago, Opra told everyone to take BSM. So there you are.
I wish you a speedy recovery and keep in touch on EC. Om
Trudyg (USA) on 06/28/2013
