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Oral Melatonin Plus Melatonin Lotion For Fibromyalgia Pain Relief Art (California) on 07/22/2024
Recently, I wrote about a woman who had posted about how Melatonin Lotion (ML) had helped her more than any supplements or the prescription medications she had tried, including the potential side effects that came with those medications for Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS). I am writing about this use for ML separately from the two main articles because FMS is fairly common and the pain associated with it is quite debilitating and can constantly move to multiple areas of the body. Doing this separate post will add it to the Fibromyalgia remedy section of EC. I have already written about it for general use for pain relief here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-pain-relief-success-stories.html
And Here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-advantages-pain-management-guide.html
In the case of FMS, the available prescription medications are not always effective or not effective enough and they do come with the potential for significant side effects. Based on studies, it is my belief that taking oral melatonin in conjunction with melatonin lotion may be synergistic together and more effective than either form alone.
Here is a link to a review that suggests that oral melatonin in the dose range of 3 mg to 15 mg/day may be useful in relieving pain associated with FMS :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10377739/
Here is a relevant quote from the multi-study review :
' The numerical pain scale, which is commonly used in clinical practice, revealed that the intensity of pain perceived by patients decreased remarkably after the intake of melatonin in a range of doses, from 3 mg/day to 15 mg/day for 10 days, specifically obtaining a dose-dependent effect . Thus, the decrease in pain could be related to an increase in circulating melatonin, indirectly measured as urinary 6-sulfatoxymelatonin (aMT6-s), the major urinary metabolite of melatonin that accurately reflects nocturnal plasma melatonin . The analgesic effects of melatonin have been confirmed in FMS patients, but with longer treatment periods: 3 mg/day for 30 days; 5 mg/day for 8 weeks ; and 10 mg/day for 6 weeks. '
As the above multi study review shows, as little as 3 mg of melatonin per day can help relieve pain caused by FMS, but the positive pain relief response does seem to be dose dependent with the higher doses showing a better response .
It is also worth noting that FMS has mitochondrial dysfunction, elevated oxidative stress levels and increased inflammation levels as discussed here :
Here is a relevant quote from the above link :
' Recent studies have shown some evidence demonstrating that oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction and inflammation may have a role in the pathophysiology of fibromyalgia. Despite several skin-related symptoms accompanied by small fiber neuropathy have been studied in FM, these mitochondrial changes have not been yet studied in this tissue. Skin biopsies from patients showed a significant mitochondrial dysfunction with reduced mitochondrial chain activities and bioenergetics levels and increased levels of oxidative stress. These data were related to increased levels of inflammation and correlated with pain, the principal symptom of FM. All these parameters have shown a role in peripheral nerve damage which has been observed in FM as a possible responsible to allodynia. Our findings may support the role of oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction and inflammation as interdependent events in the pathophysiology of FM with a special role in the peripheral alterations. '
Importantly, melatonin has repeatedly shown in many studies that it works to help maintain mitochondrial homeostasis, significantly reduce oxidative stress and inflammation as discussed here :
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/16/8/16981
Here is a relevant quote from the melatonin review article :
' Since the main symptoms in FM (pain, stiffness and fatigue) are located in the muscles, muscle biopsies, mostly from the trapezius, have been studied. Biopsies of muscle have demonstrated inflammatory markers, subsarcolemmal mitochondrial accumulation, abnormal mitochondria, higher incidence of ragged red fibers, and defects of cytochrome-c-oxidase (complex IV of oxidative phosphorylation) [119, 120]. Most recent studies have shown the implication of mitochondrial oxidative stress in the peripheral nociception described in FM as an important symptom which is mediated by inflammatory activation [32]. '
Another consideration with FMS is that people with FMS appear to be at increased risk for osteoporosis. Melatonin has shown benefit for osteoporosis as I wrote about here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/melatonin-for-osteoporosis.html
We have already seen on EC where melatonin lotion can relieve pain from many various causes including FMS. It is my belief, based on the above review of human studies that combining melatonin lotion with oral melatonin in relatively low doses may be very useful for alleviating pain from FMS!
WARNING
Even though melatonin has a very good safety profile and a multitude of potential health benefits, it is not compatible with all medications and because some people are very sensitive to melatonin, you should always get your doctor's approval and supervision before trying this remedy for FMS pain or any other health issues.
Art
Fibromyalgia and Astaxanthin
Art (California) on 06/10/2024
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0753332224007406?via=ihub
Here are some relevant quotes from the study :
' AST ameliorated mechanical and thermal pain in mice with fibromyalgia and mitigated sleep disorders and depressive-like symptoms induced by pain. '
'AST exhibits a significant anti-inflammatory effect, by inhibiting neuronal activation, glial cell activation, and the expression levels of inflammatory factors.'
'AST inhibited the formation of the NLRP3 on the central and peripheral regions.'
It is worth noting that astaxanthin has a very good safety profile as discussed here :
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31788888/
Here is a relevant quote from the review :
' We reviewed 87 human studies, none of which found safety concerns with natural AX supplementation, 35 with doses ≥12 mg/day. '
In a previous article I wrote using astaxanthin to increase endurance, I used 48 mg/day to good effect with no problem. I discussed that here:
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/astaxanthin-for-endurance.html
Art
Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation for Fibromyalgia
Ruralady (Illinois) on 04/02/2024
I had heard about fibromyalgia in my Physician Assistant training and this was resembling what I was going through. I looked up earthclinic and remedies for this and found "Borax and sea salt" in a glass of water. Made it and the pain literally went away. That was five years ago and since then my fibromyalgia has gotten much worse with time. I've spent most likely thousands of dollars on natural supplements only to find they work for awhile and then lose their punch, then the pain returns even worse. However recently I've found something that does take the pain away. It's called transcranial Direct Current Stimulation aka tDCS. I got mine on Amazon and I'll give a hint...it drives the brain. It costs me $117-118 but to me it's priceless, so far. By the fourth day of using it I woke up on Easter morning and all my fibro pain was gone. I haven't felt that in 5 years. This unit has appox 614 ratings with over 200 reviews. I identified with one of the reviews in that I had food sensitivities, brain fog, and anxiety...not to mention the weather sensitivities and anxiety.
I was always worried about a fibro attack where all my muscles seized up and down to the floor I go. The last attack I couldn't walk for 6 weeks and I lost a ton of hair that hasn't grown back due to MASSIVE inflammation from all the pain. I hope this continues to work as it has for others with fibromyalgia. The best montages for it are on another website called "Total tDCS.com" I hope this helps anyone and everyone with fibromyalgia, it's mean and nasty.
What Helped With Fibromyalgia
Katrina (Fenton, Michigan) on 11/04/2023
Try: Stem cell therapy AFTER, NATTOKINASE, SERRAPEPTASE (if you have no heart valve replacements, mesh, stints, other implanted medical devices)., epsom salt & magnesium (NOT Citrate) potassium and calcium powder baths, oxalaye removal (lemon juice and alkaline water drink w/1/2 tsp. baking soda, walking, Intermittent fasting red light therapy, and massage by an unvaxxed person. Use protocols to help your body if you've been vaccinated and please look up “shedding”-shedding of SARS-COV virus from vaccines.
Please look up ADVERSE REACTIONS TO THE VACCINES!!! I use earth clinic for every ailment and try to stay off meds as much as possible!!
Dietary Changes, Alkaline Water for Fibro
A Mercer (Fl) on 07/29/2022
Niacin in OJ for Fibromyalgia and Insomnia Relief
Root Lady (NOLA) on 07/03/2022
Fibro help! Niacin has given me so much comfort over the past few years. Here’s the hint I learned. Take a scant amount of pure niacin power mixed in OJ (to mask the taste). Relief from myalgia and insomnia are marked and immediate. I use it most days and will increase the dose when I’m experiencing severe symptoms. If you’re suffering from chronic pain and insomnia please give niacin a try.
Anne (Florida) on 09/16/2019
Personally, I would start with getting on a D3 supplement (low d levels are common with fibro). If you can tolerate it I would go to the vegan route. Myself, I had to take a prescription chewable D3 tablet. I went all organic for a short time, and all symptoms abated, I felt wonderful. I would highly recommend somebody doing this and sticking with it and not caving in I did and going back to the non-organic. This alone, can be healing, as the adrenals heal best without toxins from what I’ve read.
What I did:
1. I removed all major food allergens per a friend of mine, removal of dairy reduced my pain amazingly, removal of gluten seem to help somewhat, corn, peanuts, soy, and sugar (wow what a difference being off of it even I was doing sweetened soy milk and felt so much better on unsweetened almond milk). I wish I had listened to her sooner.
2. I got off of all grain per a chiropractor (I did a modified GAPs protocol as I’m vegetarian and GAPs is no grains or legumes). I would say that in three weeks, my fibro fog began to abate a good deal and within three months I was able to carry grocery bags whereas before I could not as well as close a trunk of a car),
3. I took activated coconut carbon, only 1/8 of a capsule with water once a day made a huge difference within only three times. I would say that this confirms the leaky gut theory,
4. At this point, I would say I felt 65% better. since I had already been diagnosed adrenal fatigue through saliva test, I began to pursue what could be done to help my adrenals. I used a quality brand of ashwagandha. It seemed to make a mild, slow difference and then I ended up needing to get a zapper for something else. I use the zapper within around an inch of my adrenals daily, as the detox of using the zapper in general was hard on my adrenals. honestly, I believe the zapper has gotten the adrenal issues almost entirely better.
So, 98% is so much better. I have met people that have said they are entirely well and they removed their Mercury fillings, I’m guessing. I would need to have the funds to do this with a bio dentist to get entirely well. I am happy to say that I am looking forward to working part-time, as I do have another condition that is not entirely under way. I have read that mercury filling removal has also helped this condition as well.
If you can afford a naturopath and / or organics from the beginning I highly recommend this. A quality naturopath should doing adrenal test, order up a natural adrenal compounding cream. In fact there is one out there but I don’t do well with all of the ingredients. They should put you on some form of the gaps protocol. Also, they will likely have some herbs that help leaky gut. Myself, I’m quite impressed by activated coconut carbon, I would recommend testing to make sure you don’t have any allergies to this.
With the zapper, I am quite amazed that all pressure points that were present are gone. Yay! I hope to help anyone to avoid suffering in the future. I would say that if finances don’t allow much that getting on lemon water will help. Make sure you drink clean, distilled or spring water. If you were wealthy you would do alkaline water. I used a B12 that sublingual and food-based. Only 1000 MCG seems to be all I need. D3, when I can afford it also helps me feel amazing. Magnesium oil transdermally seem to provide a relaxed night of sleep when I had the fibromyalgia active before the gaps took full effect. I have read that the vegetarian diet can help fibro 60%, so I don’t know if this is why some people may be entirely chair bound, myself I was couch bound but able to get up and eat until I got rid of the grain and basic food allergens. I can now eat some dairy without problem as well as some sugar. There is hope!
W.R. (Toronto) on 08/08/2019
Hope this helps someone with fibro.
Vitamin D, Borax Might Be Key in Alleviating Fibromyalgia
Hisjewel (New York) on 07/04/2017
I along with many other posters I'm sure, am learning what worked for me when I stopped taking it. When I hear about something I had not tried, I shorten my supplement list by leaving out something I was taking. I think I get bored, or sometimes the supplement worked so good I think I don't need that supplement any longer.
I shared with you how the C and D which was D3 was like a fountain of youth to me. I explained that I had stopped taking the high D (D3 10,000 IU) because of during my 3 day fast it seemed the pain came back with a revenge and I did not want to go through the withdrawal again.
I instead went to pain killers and went on drinking Borax (1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon of borax a day in one litter of purified or distilled water) which proved itself in my bones in about 4 months. After not being full of pain for a while, I simply stop taking the borax. Let me once again be thankful for the Coq10 for strengthening my heart and giving me energy to climb the 4 flights of stairs at City Hall, and I want to thank God for the MSM water of which I went through 3 gallons of it and breast pain is gone. I have not drank the daily five 1/8 to 1/4 glasses of MSM water in about a week ("Lord let it be a cure").
That being said, none of my recent supplements helped with aching bones, I began to wake up once again in the morning stiff and in pain soon after stopping the borax. Today as I was looking up Fibromyalgia cure, I took note that at least one of the sites and several posters found help by using high D3 supplements. So then I thought perhaps the reason that I was in so much pain when I stopped taking the D3 may have been because of deficiency and not necessarily, because I dropped it so fast.
What I think I will do is first try the D3 10,000 IU again, and if that along does not stop the pain, I will once again also do the borax.
HisJewel
Serrapeptase for Fibro
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Bill- Question Regarding Protocol for Fibromyalgia
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