sheila (Nebraska) on 02/08/2024
Dave (St Petersburg, FL) on 07/14/2023
Rob (Kentucky) on 05/11/2023
First her medical background. 36 year ago female, started suffering from back problems after a bad car accident when she was 15 yrs old. Has received numerous epidural steroid injections along with pain pills with no relief. Chiropractic adjustments, etc... She had just given up and lived with the pain.
Fast forward to 5 years ago. I had a theory about how to relieve the pain and the swelling of the bulging disc without surgery after studying Traditional Chinese Medicine and meeting a chinese girl from Macau China, by the name “Emy”. Tallest chinese girl I ever seen! To see if my theory would work, I needed a volunteer that suffered from this illness. My now GF agreed to be a guinea pig.
The Protocol
The first half of the treatment involved heat hydrotherapy. I studied George Washington Carver and how he setup a therapy clinic to treat patients suffering from arthritis. Even President Franklin Roosevelt, who suffered from poliomyelitis, visited these clinics for hydrotherapy in Georgia, USA back in the 1920-40’s.
The second half of the treatment involved applying a special balm/oil from a chinese recipe that Emy gave me. She was telling me that this formula “Cold-Ex is what she called it” will push stagnanted fluid built-up in the body tissue or organ’s, back into the bodies lymphatic system to be eliminated as waste thus eliminating the swelling.
I have looked for this formula in other chinese medicine and have not found anything close. I’m assuming it was a family recipe. Nothing mass produced commercially. If you go to Hong Kong, you will see a lot of store owner displaying their family's own medical formulas in bottles and salves. Like the Woo family this and plum dragon that… some of the formulas go back thousands of years.
Now, that was a bold statement, so I made the balm/oil according to the recipe she gave me. All I can say is that this stuff is NUCLEAR! I tested it on a friend who had fluid on the knee and was scheduled to have it drain by the doctor next week. I was curious to see if want Emy told me was true, so I asked my friend if she would try this treatment first. She agreed and applied the balm to her knee right then and there. She applied it again before bed. The next day she called me in a hysterical fit! Telling me her knee was normal. Not swollen, didn’t hurt. Said she peed like a race horse that night. I told her to send me a picture of her knee using her cell phone. She was right. It looked completely normal next to her other knee. Hum…
Now, how I cured my GF DDD….
I have a jacuzzi tub so there was the hydrotherapy. I put my GF into it with the water as HOT AS SHE COULD STAND IT. I added epsom salt for magnesium to loosen up her muscles and added tea tree and eucalyptus also. I boiled her like a potato for 30 minutes.
Next, I got her out of the jacuzzi and while she was still hot (must be done while the patient is hot from the hydrotherapy) I worked from the base of her skull to her hips with the balm/oil. She proceeded to get dressed and we went out on the patio. She said she was sooo cold form the balm that her teeth were chattering. Said she felt like she was in a beer cooler but it was 85 degrees outside on the patio. The cold lasted for about one hour. We repeated the treatment for the next two days for a total of 3 treatments (must be done back-to-back for 3 days).
That was 5 years ago. She has not had any problems with her back. She can even wear 7 inch platform heels.. Woo-Hoo! Together with improving her diet, eating health, taking vitamins and minerals. Alot of her underlying health conditions have mostly disappeared.
Deirdre (CT) on 06/09/2022
Ted's remedy can seem a bit complicated from some of the posts and instructions on Earth Clinic's degenerative disc disease section, but really it is very simple. I bought HA in bulk from Amazon, which is much more cost-effective than buying 100 HA capsules.
I have been testing 500mg, 1000mg, and 1500mg of hyaluronic acid plus 1.5 teaspoons of pink salt in 500 ml of water each time I make the mixture to see if there is any difference in the higher dosing. Ted mentioned sea salt, but I have been using Himalayan pink salt. If anyone has input on a better salt to use thank pink, please advise.
Per Ted, you don't want to put so much HA in 500 ml distilled/purified water that it turns into a gel. The higher dose HA that I have been experimenting with does get gelatinous once it's been in the fridge for a few hours, so I simply top off my 8 oz glass with water. At the lower dose HA, I took 1/8 cup straight with no dilution 3x/day.
The hyaluronic acid power from bulk always clumps when I pour it into the water, regardless of the water's temperature (hot or cold refrigerated water). However, it slowly dissolves in the fridge. Sometimes it can take 24 hours for the clumps to dissolve. The instructions from Ted and others have you shaking the bottle every few hours in the fridge. But really, you only need to stir it right before you pour it each time to get the salt from the bottom into the solution.
Dosage:
1/8 cup of my refrigerated HA/Sea Salt solution into an 8 oz cup, top off with water, and drink it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, then afternoon and evening.
As Ted mentioned, I've found this solution helps slightly with stiff joints from arthritis, but fabulously with disc issues. My back feels much looser now. And of course nothing as good as HA for plumping up the skin. Incredible supplement that way. Thumbs up. I'm on my second week of the solution and will report more later.
Tom (Livingston, Tx) on 03/17/2022
Chicken sternum has type 2 collagen in it which rebuilds cartilage.
Something tore next to my spine in the mid-2000s as I lifted a 7-gallon water jug. My back felt unhinged from then on.
My knees and thumbs were also loose in their sockets at the time, so I started taking a chicken sternum capsule mornings, and it rebuilt and filled in the cartilage in my knees/thumbs in say 4 months. The joints became tight again and subtle but noticeable improvement started within a few days.
However, my unhinged back healed some years later. It could have been 2 years or longer because I didn't notice when my back actually healed, but only that it has healed from the unhinged feeling.
I still take a capsule of chicken sternum mornings, although CS has never has healed my injured shoulder, but the shoulder is not painful.
I reason that the cartilage sternum of a bird acts as a shock absorber for the bird's flapping wings. So the bird's cartilage sternum needs to repair and rebuild rapidly each day. So that is why I think CS rebuilds hips, knees and other joints so well, except maybe shoulders.
I knew a lady in 2016 who canceled her hip replacement (confirmed by x-ray), and her friend canceled his painful knee's replacement after they both took CS capsules for 4 months. He was walking around as normal as if his knee had never hurt, whereas before he was not able to stand in line at the buffet without sitting down.
Instead of the current BioCell brand of CS extract, Swanson carried the kollaGen brand of chicken sternum capsules back then, kollaGen which is now carried by PipingRock:
https://www.pipingrock.com/chicken-collagen?keywords=chicken cartilage&qid=1647534436
I wanted to try the newer BioCell brand of CS extract, so that is what I take now.
The Swanson CS I most recently bought for about $17.50 per bottle by using RetailMeNot. Or the current 25% off sale at Swanson would yield the same $17.24 price, which is normally $22.99 per bottle.
I figure that it only makes sense to take chicken sternum capsules to feed my skeletal system and joints. The bottles suggest more capsules per day or per dose, although just one capsule per day of CS was always enough to produce results for me.
High Dose Vitamin C for Degenerative Disc Disease (DDD) Jim T. (Oregon) on 09/29/2018
KT (Usa) on 08/31/2017
I use RealSalt that doesn't have anything else in it. I do not get the flavored varieties. It is available in health food stores and on Amazon.
I stumbled on this post and remembered I had copied the constituents of Himalayan salt for a friend:
Here are the 84 constituents of Himalayan Salt:
hydrogen, lithium, beryllium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluoride, sodium, magnesium, aluminum, silicon, phosphorus, sulfur, chloride, calcium, scandium, titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium, arsenic, selenium, bromine, rubidium, strontium, yttrium, zirconium, niobium, molybdenum, ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, silver, cadmium, indium, tin, antimony, tellurium, iodine, cesium, barium, lanthanum, cerium, praseodymium, samarium, europium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, holmium, erbium, thulium, ytterbium, lutetium, hafnium, tantalum, tungsten, rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, mercury, thallium, lead, bismuth, polonium, astatine, francium, radium, actinium, thorium, protactinium, uranium, neptunium, and plutonium
Kt
Ted's Hyaluronic Acid and Sea Salt Remedy for Degenerative Disc Disease Earl Kielley (Madison Wi) on 06/23/2017
Formula:
Drink it (3) times a day.........meaning 1/3 of the bottle, then another 1/3, then the last 1/3 (bottle will be empty then).
I read a lot of comments by people that really miss the mark. Read what I have said carefully and hope you will have similiar results.........do it exactly as I have written it. It worked for my friend.
Remember NATURAL WATER LIKE DISTILLED, AND A HIGH QUALITY OF SEA SALT LIKE MEDITERRANEAN SEA SALT.
I use this salt daily -- 1 1/2 teaspoons -- on food. My blood pressure is 100/62 and I am 73 years of age. This salt is NOT refined, meaning it has 80 plus trace minerals that are GOOD FOR your body. Hope this helps.
Art (California ) on 01/28/2017
Here is a typical abstract from 2012 when most studies only used injections to good benefit:
J Med Assoc Thai. 2012 Oct;95 Suppl 10:S92-7.
Prospective randomized trial comparing the efficacy of single 6-ml injection of hylan G-F 20 and hyaluronic acid for primary knee arthritis: a preliminary study.
Khanasuk Y1, Dechmaneenin T, Tanavalee A.
Author information
OBJECTIVE:
To compare the efficacy of single 6-ml intraarticular injection between hylan G-F 20 and hyaluronic acid (HA) for knee osteoarthritis.
MATERIAL AND METHOD:
Thirty-two patients with primary knee arthritis, who were randomly received single intraarticular injection of 6-ml hylan G-F 20 (Synvisc) or HA (Hyalgan), were prospectively evaluated for clinical outcomes at a minimum 26-week follow-up. The parameters, including visual analog scale (VAS) during walking, the Western Ontario and McMaster Universities Osteoarthritis (WOMAC) index and Short-Form 36 (SF-36) questionnaires, were evaluated at pre-injection, then at 1 week, 4 weeks, 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 26 weeks, post-injection.
RESULTS:
There were 15 patients in both groups who were available for final follow-up with no statistical differences in demographic data, VAS during walking, WOMAC score and SF-36 score at pre-injection. There was no adverse event related to viscosupplementation using in is better than of both agents. At 26-week follow-up, patients in both groups had significantly improved VAS during walking (p < 0.01), WOMAC score (p < 0.01) and SF-36 (p < 0.05) with no statistical differences between groups. However the cost of hylan G-F 20 was much more expensive than that of HA (534 USD vs. 252 USD).
CONCLUSION:
A single intraarticular injection of both hylan G-F 20 and HA for primary knee arthritis had no adverse event related to 6-ml volume. At 26-week follow-up of the present preliminary study, both groups had similarly improved clinical outcomes post-injection. Further study in larger population is required. As the cost of hylan G-F 20 was 2 times higher than HA, a single 6-ml intraarticular injection of HA (Hyalgan) provided better cost-effectiveness than hylan G-F 20 (Synvisc).
PMID: 23451445
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This more recent abstract shows that a strong enough dose of oral HA is beneficial also:
Musculoskelet Surg. 2016 Sep 28. [Epub ahead of print]
Clinical comparison of oral administration and viscosupplementation of hyaluronic acid (HA) in early knee osteoarthritis.
Ricci M1, Micheloni GM2, Berti M1, Perusi F3, Sambugaro E1, Vecchini E1, Magnan B1.
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Abstract
PURPOSE:
Osteoarthritis (OA) is a progressive, chronic and degenerative joint disease characterized by a loss of articular cartilage. Treatment of OA is largely palliative based on nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, opioids and injections of steroids. Regarding conservative treatment, intra-articular injections of hyaluronic acid (HA) can play a role in early symptomatic knee OA.
MATERIALS AND METHODS:
Between August 2015 and September 2015, sixty patients (32 males and 28 females) between 40 and 70 years old were randomly allocated into two groups: Half were treated with three weekly intra-articular injections of hyaluronic acid 1.6 % (group A), while the others were treated with Syalox 300 Plus® (hyaluronic acid 300 mg + Boswellia serrata extract 100 mg) 1 tab/die for 20 days and afterward Syalox 150® (hyaluronic acid 150 mg) 1 tab/die for other 20 days (group B). All patients were evaluated clinically with American Knee Society Score (AKSS) and visual analogue scale (VAS) for the pain before the treatment and after 3 months.
RESULTS:
AKSS of the patients in both groups was significantly increased by the treatment, and VAS score was significantly reduced. In both groups, two subgroups were created with patients older than 60 years and patients younger than 60 years. Better results are reported in younger patients of group A and older subjects in group B.
CONCLUSIONS:
Despite several limitations, the results of the study have shown that HA injection and oral administration may have beneficial therapeutic effects on patients with early osteoarthritis. Different outcomes in younger and older subject suggested a combined therapy first with local infiltrations and then with oral composition.
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So the take away from this is that, Ted was ahead of his time and was spot on regarding oral HA and that it works! Thank you, Ted!!!
Art
Janet (In) on 01/26/2017
Ken could not work we went to several specialists.
Here is how we cured it.
First 1/2 tsp of baking soda reacted with apple cider vinegar add 1/2 glass of water and drink 1/2 hour after meals 2x a day 5 days out of seven. You can substitute 1 whole squeezed lime for acv. But Apple Cider Vinegar really helps pain but we alternate both. This improves digestion and circulation which his meds have most likely disrupted.
Hyaluronic acid we by in powder (expensive) or capsules from vitaminsbecause online. The are easiest to use and reliably clean and affordable.
10 capsules in a blender we use oster..8 to 10 oz of spring water 1/4 tsp of sea salt. Blend 10 or 15 seconds oster fits mason or ball jars then you just cap and store in frig. Apply to spine. It spoils after about a week and then remake. You can take 2 tbsp in water or Take 3 caps 3 or 4 x a day. This hydrates the spine and improves bone health
Remove all fluoride from his life.
Easiest way for men 1/4 tsp 1/8 tsp women of 20 mule team borax in 1 liter of water. To be used through the day in drinks like tea etc. I use mine in coffee making as it tastes icky unless ice cold. Adding lemon to water is another. 4 days out of 7. Displacing fluoride in bones is critical to healing. Many pain meds and antibiotics have fluoride in them so most likely he has much in his system.
Remove chlorine from environment and drinking water. In tub use fish tank dechlorinator. I buy sea chem 1 cap for 50 gallons. I buy sodium thiosulfate crystals from photographers supply on amazon or ebay if he showers. He takes one before showering. It also improves sleep. It also helps with overall pain management. 1 crystal a day removes chlorine.
If he can soak in tub is best but this can also be used with towels soaked and placed on back. 1/2 the tub recipe in bucket. 20minutes soak or application. Recipe...2 cups epsom salts for magnesium through skin 1 cup borax to displace more fluoride and add non acidic boron through skin 1 cap fish tank dechlorinator 1 cup hydrogen peroxide to oxygenate blood which improve healing.
Topical treatment. Buy magnesium flakes for spas sold at some health food stores or online. Put 60 % flakes in clean jar add 40 % mineral water. Let sit an hour shake you now have mag oil. Apply to spine this will sting some people so I put castor oil on first and then mag oil. The reason it stings is body is so low on mag this goes away after levels are up. Buy dmso online or farm co op. Back must be clean before starting this as dmso carries everything in. Add this to spine this will drive the mag oil through skin directly to spine. Some people smell of garlic after using dmso. Then this becomes an evening remedy. But we have not had a problem as everyone is different.
Tumeric drinks or pills help pain.
Supplements
5 drops of mag oil in water 2x a day. This is relieving to many on pain meds as it helps constipation. But if he is a more runny stool person then magnesium malate which provides more malic acid to further pain relief.
Sodium ascorbate powder online or vitamin shoppe is vitamin c reacted with baking soda for optimal absorption. I add 1/2 tsp to each Apple Cider Vinegar or lime drink.
These things will get pain under control. To then deal with getting off meds etc.
Ken was in crazy pain and his meds hardly helped. But he had to have something. Within 3 days he was able to slowly wean off them. His whole health picture changed. Everyone is different.
The thing that really helped that and overall health was niacinamide. This is a godsend to relieve every aspect of health Ken took 1000mg. Several x a day through this as it helps digestion circulation depression anger impatience infection weaning off meds it only lasts in body 24 hours is a water soluable vitamin.
B comlex the only one on the market that has all the optimal and correct bs is swansons high dose activated b. 3x a week. Second choice is b-right. But I invest in the swansons for its overall health impact. It is energy and healing.
Selenium yeast 200mcg a day
Vitamin d3 in coconut oil from Solaray. 10,000 iu a day.
K2 from natto 200mg a day. This helps calcium go into the bone where it belongs and out of circulation.
Ideally I listed the things in order of importance. But we were not this organized to start. But you do what you can. With what you have to further his health and pain management.
Ken now works 12 hours a day 7 days a week as an industrial electrician climbing in and out of robots. Up and down ladders. He is healthy and pain free. We keep up with it to keep him in good working order. Ken is 60 years old.
Here is Ted from bangkoks chapter on spine pain. https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/back-pain-relief2.html
He has further information and the whys and hows. I would also look at his spinal virus chapter as we used this also.
Kennywally (Midwest) on 06/07/2016
Also, Queen Victoria, Elizabeth, the Queen mother, and John D rockefeller lived into their 90's with only a homeopathic physician....there has to be something to it.
Hyaluronic Acid for Degenerative Disc Disease Maria (England, Uk) on 04/18/2016
I tried it with the salt but it was too salty, so on my next batch just used HA and water:
The amount I take each day is: 2 fluid ounces/4 tablespoons in the morning and the same again at night. One 500ml batch lasts me four days.
For the first two weeks I used High Molecular Weight HA and had some success but then two weeks ago I changed to Low Molecular Weight HA and I've found this to work much better.
Both lots of HA were bought from ebay uk. I will say which companies in a further post if it's allowed.
I've had chronic Degenerative Disc Disease and three herniated discs for twelve years and have been in pain every day, just getting out of bed hurt, I couldn't even lean forward to get my socks on! Sneezing would have me dropping to the floor in pain, it was even painful to sneeze sitting down!
I'm sure anyone with this knows what I'm talking about!
Anyway, after two weeks on the LMWHA, In the mornings when I'm usually at my most painful and stiff, I'm just swinging my legs out of bed and standing straight up without all the pain and grunting and groaning. My pelvis and hips feel freer when I walk, instead of feeling all tight and tense. I have a bit of a swing again!
This is just after one month, I'm really hoping the effects with be cumulative and that I continue to improve even more.
Oh, just before I wrote this post I had a sneezing fit, it didn't hurt once!
This hasn't been a complete cure, after all, it's only been a month. I still have a some pain and stiffness but I feel so much better than I have done for the last twelve years!
HTH
Janet (Indiana) on 10/01/2015
Hyaluronic acid puts the fluid back in joints and spine. I have found that Collagen is the other remedy that heals and strengthens the bone. I make our version of bulletproof coffee to alleviate pain. I have found it to be another piece of the puzzle. I take 1 cup of brewed coffee add 1/2 tsp mct oil 1/2 tsp grassfed butter 1 full scoop about 2 tbsp of collagen 1 and 3 blend 15 seconds pour into cup and drink. You can add magnesium oil 6 drops and your liquid HA to this also. Pain is pretty much gone and quickly. This also improves digestion somewhat.
Ted recommends 4 hourly doses of the lysine remedy to kill any virus that lurks on nerve paths and spine so I use it too. In a 1 liter bottle I add spring water 1/2 tsp lysine 1/2 tsp sodium ascorbate [vit c reacted with baking soda] 6 to 8 drops methylene blue and 1/4 tsp l threonine. but I multiply the doses to make 4 total doses I mark my bottle with 4 tape lines and take 1 an hour in the am. I do this for three days. I drink my coffee 2 x a day. No back or neck problems any longer.
Janet
Ron (Indiana) on 09/29/2015
Jeana (La, US) on 07/11/2014
While drinking tea, I took a hot bath with: left over ginger pieces from tea, a handful of dried comfrey leaves, some apple cider vinegar (with the mother), coconut oil (organic, cold pressed), oils of lavender, patchouli, frankincense, myrrh, turmeric. I also added baking soda and I was out of epsom salt, so I added regular sea salt. My tub was a mess w/ all the dried leaves, but it was worth it! It knocked the pain right out, and I hadn't been w/o a day of crying pain in over a week. I am thankful for all the tips a found here. I don't know what worked, but something did, or a combination. Thought I'd share in case anyone else is in horrible pain too. I have very minimal pain today, I can walk upright instead of bent over, and I got a consecutive 6 hours of sleep (instead of waking every 1/2 hour all night). Hope this helps someone else too. x, J
Natalie (Washington, Dc) on 05/29/2014
I would first like to express my joy in having come across your site! It has been working miracles on many of my ailments. I'm 25, recently diagnosed with phase 1 degenerative disc disease. I found out about Ted's mixture of hyaluronic acid and sea salt and immediately got on it. I've been taking it for 3 days and the pain in my spine has substantially subsidized. I read that it takes 2 weeks to fully restore the disk cartilage.
Hari (Hyderabad, India) on 03/04/2014
Mary (Nj) on 02/03/2014
Also, MRIs show degenerated discs (not x-rays) and are more complete and safer than CT Scans because it is magnetic versus radioactive. (CT Scans can miss things and they are not that more less expensive than MRIs so I would go for MRIs - I would insist! Even if I have to pay out of pocket)
Franky (Beirut, Lebanon) on 02/10/2013
Magnesium oil is a must but not enough for degenerative disc disease. You also need vitamin d, and bioavailable calcium through food like almonds, sesame seeds, dark greens, organic whey protein from 100% concentrate.
You need boron also. Spray a borax solution mixed with water on the degenerated area. (half a tea spoon with half a liter of water sprayed on the area twice a day)
you need to eat food high in Phosphorous.
You need to massage a mixture of clove oil 10% and castor oil 30% and extra virgin coconut oil 60%. This works like a charm but needs time in such situations. You also need to eliminate foods like wheat sugar fried food and junk food and grains, to stop fueling the underlying undiagnosed hidden body condition or major multiple malnutrition, that are causing your disc to degenerate. This is most vital to success and better than treating the symptoms on-site, to ensure future body harmony.
Ashley (Middletown, Pa) on 02/03/2013
I have been suffering from back pain since I was 17 yrs. Old. I'm 29 now. I've always had my back "go out" on me and be laid up in bed for a few weeks and then be able to start hobbling around again. Living in constant pain or fear of pain is a horrible exsistance though. This past Sept. (2011) my back finally gave up on me. I lost the use of both legs and was in the most excruicating pain of my entire life. I was unable to care for my 2yr. Old and was on horrible prescription drugs for months. I was constantly in a fog of pain and exhaustion (brought on by the drugs). I tried physical therapy and that helped but I had to stay on the meds.
I had an MRI done and my doctor told me I have severe degeneration in my discs, spinal arthritis all along my spine, and my L4 & L5 are bulging. The rest of my lumbar discs are also trying to bulge and have little to no fluid left to cushion them. I was so devastated.
After several months of trying to do things the "medical" way I decided to search for a natural remedy on my own. I can't tell you how elated I am that I found this site and the recipe for Ted's hyaluronic acid. I decided to give it a try.
I have been using this remedy now for maybe 2 1/2 weeks and I am almost 100% pain free. I went off my meds on day two so I could feel how much the hyaluronic was working, except that it relieved almost all of my pain after only 3 doses!!! It's so incredible to feel this pain free. My entire body feels so much better. I started taking a vegetarian glucosamine and MSM supplement as well after about a week and a half and I've only seen improvement. I am still taking the hyaluronic 3 times a day because my spine has been under so much stress for so many years and I just feel better when I take it 3 times.
There is so much more that I want to say and share about where this site and this remedy has led me; how I can feel so much about my body that I never knew I was missing. I feel incredible now that I'm giving myself what I need to not just survive but thrive! I don't want to make this post too long that no one will read it though. :P
Overall I just can't thank you enough Ted, Earth Clinc and this community. The combination of hyaluronic acid and physical therapy is helping me to live life again, pain free. I've started to lose weight as well now that my body isn't so clouded with prescription medications. I know that will only help my spine to heal as well. Thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart thank you!
Ashley
