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Twenty Years Suffering With Rash Around MouthPosted By AJ (Delray Beach, FL) on 11/03/2021
I have had this issue for years (20 years+) that I just can't get rid of. When I have flare ups, which is happening weekly now, all the way around my mouth becomes red, starts out itchy, then burns and cracks, then flakes when it is healing and will flake for days until I get one day of relief and then back around again. I'm so frustrated with it. It also typically flares up when I’m emotionally triggered by something/someone or stressed in general. I've been to dermatologists (steroid creams), energy healers (worked on emotional triggers), acupuncture, etc. nothing has worked. Can anyone share guidance or suggestions for what I can do to stop this horrible cycle?
Thanks so much.
Replied by MissM (NY) on 11/04/2021
You should have it checked, and go on an antibiotic.
I have had it, but not as severe.
It can get worse if you try and put cream on it.
I would also see if it’s aggravated by a cream, or food, or something in your life that flares it up.
from the web - https://dermnetnz.org/topics/periorificial-dermatitis
Replied by Art (California) on 11/04/2021
There are cases of Angular Cheilitis that have a similar appearance. Scroll through this google search link and there are a few that look similar :
Have you tried 1% Clotrimazole antifungal or a saturated solution of Borax water? I have a niece who had Angular Cheilitis, but she had it for a much shorter period of time and was able to reverse it with a saturated solution of Borax. She first dipped a q-tip in the saturated Borax water and barely touched it to a very small area of infection for the first day just to make sure she would not have a bad reaction. The next day she inspected the area that she had just barely touched the q-tip to and since she did not have a reaction to the Borax water, she went ahead and applied it to only one side. The next day she repeated the application to only the same side because she did not have a bad reaction there. She cleaned that side in the evening with warm water and reapplied the Borax water with a fresh q-tip. By the end of the week, the side she had been applying it to was clear so then she started applying to both sides and she was clear by the end of the week. She has not had it return in over two years.
Borax is very inexpensive and available at local markets and stores in the laundry aisle. A box costs around $5. My niece told me that if it hadn't worked, she would just use the Borax in her laundry to get her clothes cleaner.
Art
Replied by Mama to Many (TN) on 11/04/2021
Well that looks and sounds miserable! I am sorry!
The first things I would try would be a Borage Oil supplement (1300 IUs 3 x a day) and calendula oil or salve or lotion topically. A multivitamin would be helpful, too. I use the ones from NOW for my family.
Have you had allergy testing of any sort done? Hidden food allergies can cause skin problems.
Take time to read the remedies on this site for perioral dermatitis. It can be a complex problem, but there are many reader success stories and there may be ideas you haven't thought of or that ring true to your own situation.
Please let us know when you find the solution for you!
~Mama to Many~
Replied by Michael (New Zealand) on 11/05/2021
https://www.healthline.com/health/rashes
I suspect you are already aware of most of this basic information but there may be something here that might pique you interest.
ACV and Coconut and Aloe Vera are all in there somewhere.
Best wishes,
Michael
Replied by Connie (Utah) on 11/05/2021
When reading about perioral dermatitis, I most often encounter Zinc deficiency.
Steroids lower (waste zinc), so they may worsen the condition eventually.
When taking zinc, always include copper. Zinc inhibits copper uptake.
Copper is an excellent antimicrobial and antifungal, which may help if that's the cause of the dermatitis.
Another possible cause is excess fluoride exposure. It's added to most toothpastes.
Fluoride will displace iodine causing all sorts of symptoms, low thyroid, etc.
Fluoride will also bind with calcium and magnesium, causing symptoms.
Dermatitis is one of the symptoms of calcium deficiency.
I read recently that calcium is administered in cases of fluoride poisoning.
Vitamin D is also mentioned. It increases calcium uptake, but also phosphorus.
Replied by Charity (faithville, Us) on 11/05/2021
Replied by Katzie (Calgary) on 11/13/2021
I would buy some Colloidal Silver! Gel would be preferable (for long skin contact), but you could soak a cotton round or something with Colloidal Silver Water, for at least 20 mins. Then I would put on a blender of Neem, Coconut & Castor Oils on the area afterwards. Also look into Castor Oil Packs. They are amazingly soothing and healing (directions are on this site). Diamotaceous Earth is also excellent for skin issues, so if you have some try it. None of these things ever let me down and I have experienced minor miracles with them.
Please keep us updated, if you can. Bless you.
Replied by Bodulica (Barrie, canada) on 11/16/2021
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Replied by Joy (Texas) on 11/16/2021
Read through all the remedies people have used and hopefully you'll soon get relief. Perioral Dermatitis is miserable! Good luck to you!!
So thankful for this wonderful community!!
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Replied by Tom (currently in Arizona) on 12/04/2021
This is perhaps unrelated to your cause, but many people get rashes when being on the Keto diet. It's thought to be the acetone in their sweat that irritates their skin.
At dietdoctor.com, there are 7 pages and 323 comments about how they deal with their rashes. Please read through all 7 pages of comments towards the bottom of each page for each person's preferred remedy.
Some take ox bile daily. One product is Swanson Bile Salts 100 mg tablets.
Also, raw, unpasteurized apple cider vinegar (ACV), like Braggs, with the mother, kept in the fridge and applied liberally to rash for immediate relief. Apply several times per day and rash goes away.
Also, Vet's Best Hot Spot Shampoo. Used as a body wash in shower. Lather over rash area and leave it sit for a couple minutes. Rinse off. Works really well and does not sting. Available online or at pet specialty stores. Green bottle.
Then before bed, swipe the area with ACV. The combined use of the shampoo and ACV helped one person immensely.
Black Seed Oil is mentioned a lot and Calamine lotion which doesn't get clothes oily.
See the 7 pages of comments at:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/keto-rash-people-itch-low-carb/comment-page-1#comments
Thanks,
Tom
Replied by Donna (Ohio) on 01/15/2022
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