Replied by Timh (Ky) on 12/30/2015

OK, with the generalities over, 3 items of most importance for alcohol detox is:

1. Zinc (take away from high fiber foods)

2. Niacin and/or Niacinamide and/or NADH (Coenzyme-1)

3. Milk Thistle/Turmeric/Artichoke herbal combination.

Back to generalities. After having only minutes ago read of someone experiencing toxicity from B vitamins, it is important to note that B- vitamins need Minerals as cofactors in coenzyme & enzyme production. For alcohol detox in specific, Zinc combines w/ Niacin which fuels the production of the enzyme Alcohol Dehydrogenase which is critical for the detoxification of alcohol in the body. Also critical is the mineral Molybdenum & Niacin for the detoxification of toxic byproducts of fungal infections as well as alcohol itself ---Aldehyde. So, folks using alcohol and have a fungal infection are going to experience some very bad side effects from the aldehyde toxicity.

So, two more items on the list are:

4. Molybdenum

5. High quality health food store brand Multivitamin/Mineral supplement 2x daily with meals.

Lastly, it is reported that chronic alcohol use depletes Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) leaving one vulnerable to all manner of degenerative diseases. So, one more item on the list is:

6. Consume cold water fish like Salmon, Mackerel, and Sardines or take Fish or Krill Oil supplement, and Flax Seed Oil.

Replied by Mary (Shelton, Wa) on 12/30/2015

I have read about vit b being toxic. Could you please explain how to take the complex vit b.

I take a liquid, but I did ask the company about the toxic issues and have not heard back.

Thank you

Replied by Everson11 (Mt) on 12/30/2015

I do have fish oil, but it's a brand with Magnesium stearate and silicon dioxide, so I want to get a good version with no additives...

I drink Milk thistle often as a tincture, and have done research in natural remedies for 10 years, but have yet to figure out if there is so much as too much probiotics... As in, can I take 10 doses of a 15 strain / 35 Billion and Sauerkraut or Kimchi or Kombucha, or is it needless to do so???

Replied by Everson11 (Mt) on 12/30/2015

From a former Silverdale resident, I wish I was back there in the Fairgrounds / Bucklin Hill area or even Wildcat Lake!!!

I heard for years that the B12 version of Cyanocobalamin was cyanide (The cyan, the front molecule) of the safe cobalamin...

I have also heard that is hogwash, depending on who you talk to... I do know the good supplements use Methylcobalamin and the very rare Hydroxycobalamin...

I have avoided vitamins with 13,333% or whatever of Cyan just because of that, but with high doses of Methyl, I didn't see any problems...

Replied by Timh (Ky) on 12/31/2015

Maybe you have absorption issues or infection in your gut and the B's are not getting into the bloodstream correctly. Maybe you need to not supplement a B-Complex unless it also has Minerals. A high quality Multivitamin/Mineral is way better than on B's.

Also, the best form of B's is the Coenzymated.

As for the liquid B you have, try adding some drops of Ionic Trace Minerals for maximum effect.

Replied by Timh (KY) on 12/31/2015

As for the probiotics, I have always considered using probiotics exclusively for gut health as a self-limiting approach. The secret to maintaining healthy flora is to almost totally eradicate any infection w/ natural herbs like Garic, Oregano, Oregon Grape, Grapefruitseed, as well as a once a yr Black Walnut Complex for the parasites. Also to help the body produce probiotics is to be sure to take a pre-probiotic like Inulin found in herbs like Artichoke and Yucca, FOS. Be sure your brand contains FOS.

Also the colon always needs a little help keeping clean so take 1 spoon of Milled Flax Seed 2-3 x per wk and Aloe Vera maybe 1x wk.

It is critical that you have zero Aldehyde in the liver & gut as A is very toxic, destroying nutrition easily and causing acidosis. So alkalizing remedies are also needed for gut health as acidosis destroy nutrition including probiotics.

So yes, it's all about maintaining the healthy flora. Krout & Kefir regularly will minimize the need for supplemental probiotics. 20 billion from as many strains as possible upon waking daily is a recommended dose.

Replied by Everson11 (Mt) on 12/31/2015

I have noticed in the past success with just sauerkraut and a dose of probiotics, but my gut is enraged now... Quitting the alcohol will of course help, and then I will dig into seriously cleaning the gut, as I have a hiatial hernia and who knows what else...

Thanks for the tips

By the way, Cayenne took care of the anxiety and shakes quick... I wrote that part on the Cayenne Multiple cures forum...