Replied by Mary Frances (Mineral Wells, Texas, USA) on 05/09/2009
This is a reply to Carol from Hesperia, Ca. Resently, I was reading a book and found a suggestion that taking 35% food grade H2O2 daily, is a good solution for alcoholism with good side effects of alleviating dark circles under the eyes. Her suggestions are that you start with 3 drops in 6 to 8 oz. of distilled water three times a day. You add a drop each day until you reach 25 drops three times a day, then back off at the same rate until you get to 3 drops three times a day again and stay there for maintance. You might give that a try. Good Luck and God Bless.Replied by T (Maryland, USA) on 05/09/2009
Carol, congratulations on 2 months sober! Be patient, it will take some time for the body to show you the happier results. Drinking and smoking greatly rob your body of nutrients, and it will take time to get that optimized and to actually see the results - but you know that can't really progress if you're still smoking. You definitely CAN quit smoking without drugs. I quit cold turkey after nearly 25 years at 1.5 packs a day. Once I had the right mindset I was able to do it reasonably aggravation-free, and I've never looked back! You already know you can make big changes for yourself, because you did that with the drinking. You definitely have the strength :) A helpful tool, which I didn't use myself but have heard many great things about, may be to read Allen Carr's books. Check out the large number of positive reviews on Amazon for "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking". The book is cheap; you really have nothing to lose. Apart from stopping smoking, make sure your diet is excellent. Lots of salads, little or no sugar, stay away from the bad fats, all forms of MSG, artificial colorings and sweeteners. You may want to add a B-complex and milk thistle (for the liver) to your supplements; some inositol would probably be a good thing as well. Give yourself 6 months smoke-free and with a great diet and I bet you'll see fantastic improvements! Good luck, and please keep us posted on your progress!Replied by PR (Houston, Texas) on 05/12/2009
I was listening to the link below on nutrition and the speaker was saying that sometimes when you change your health habits you can get dark circles and puffy eyes, etc. as your body is not use to it and is going through changes and cleansing. He had some very helpful ways to deal with these effects. Hope this helps. http://robertvon.com/
EC: PR, have you tried the Mini Beet Protocol for fluoride detoxing that he writes about on that website? Sounds interesting...
Replied by Carol (Hesperia, CA) on 05/13/2009
To Mary Frances, T and PR, Thank you all so much for your encouragement and remedies. Today is May 13, 65 days and going strong! Still smoking though. =( One thing at a time is how I see it for now, can't have to many things on my plate or i will drop it! PR, I listened to Robert Von late last night and this morning and I found him so interesting that I didn't get what I needed to done, I was totally pulled in by the conversation! ALot of great info, thought I would try blending the tomatoes and romaine lettuce every morning to see if it helps the dark circles. I have been eating a very good diet containing lots of veggies, protein shakes, ground turkey, chicken and lots of green tea and water. My supplements are multi-vite, omega 3, 3 Tlbs ACV w/ 1/2 tsp cayenne daily, stress vit-B complex and still need to get the milk thistle. I had a few more questions:
I am taking 2 Tlbs ACV w/ 1/4 tsp. cayenne pepper in the morning and then 1 Tlbs in the evening, is this too much, too little, and should I add some baking soda to it? I am also ingesting organic, unrefined coconut oil in the morning ( 1 Tlbs in my coffee) is this OK? To Mary: is H202 peroxide? To T: What is Inositol and what is its function?
Thank you all sooooo much for your time but most of all for CARING! Thanks also to Earth Clinic for have such a wonderful website!
HUGS, CarolReplied by PR (Houston, Texas) on 05/14/2009
Hi Carol, I am glad that you found Robert Von lecture helpful. It has helped me a lot and explains some of the things I had been going through. I have tried the mini beet protocol on a smaller scale and love it. You do have to be careful with if you don't eat enough apples as it does purge the toxins out and I do mean purge. If you don't do enough apples it will knot you on your butt as they can't get out fast enough. From my understanding you need to eat a lot of vegetables to build your body up so it can handle the herbs and other benefical supplements which is what I have been working on. I got into trouble when I was taking cayenne too fast my body couldn't handle it. You will know if you aren't ready for some of these these as you will not feel so good. It is hard to answer how much of anything for any body is too little or too much as everybody is different. When you get ready to quit smoking (which I agree one thing at time) there is a book named Utimate Healing with a really good protocl for stopping to smoke. Hope this has helped some. Keep up the good work!!!!!Replied by T (Maryland, USA) on 05/14/2009
Hi Carol! It looks like you've got a good routine there with the diet and all. The smoking cessation will come; you've planted the seeds and I am sure you will reap the rewards in due time. See if your library has the Allen Carr book anyway - he even tells you to keep smoking while you read! Consider it preemptive, low-effort psychological warfare against the addiction monster ;)
Inositol is a B vitamin which helps clear the liver, among many other benefits. I use a powder. It's sweet and taken easily in a drink, even plain water. Here is a link with info on it:
http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T47006.html
You might choose to take lecithin instead, which combines inositol and choline. I personally won't take the usual lecithin supplements as I have concerns about soy, but you can also get plenty of lecithin in dandelion, capsules of which are easily found in places like GNC. Any of these plus the milk thistle are a good idea to utilize. Your liver needs the support for detox and healing from alcohol damage.
In case Mary doesn't make it back to this thread - yes, H202 is hydrogen peroxide. As for the ACV you're taking, I really don't know what an ideal amount is. I sip a little bit in water all day long and have no ill effects (I'm guessing I take in several Tbs. a day altogether). I personally don't add baking soda as I really can't stand it in the water, but my pH levels are fine so I don't worry about it (you can get pH test strips at Amazon if you want to check on yours). If you don't mind the baking soda, then just follow Ted's instructions found elsewhere here for taking it. I think the coconut oil you're taking is fine if it's giving you no side effects, and you might see some great benefits from it.
Continue to keep us posted - there will be people looking in here for possibly years to come who will benefit from your experiences! And besides that, we would love to know how you're doing.
Sending big hugs back at you! :)
Replied by Pollito (Ventura, California , U.s.) on 02/09/2013
I was reading about a lady from Hesperia Ca. that gave up alcohol and is trying to give up smoking.
I gave up smoking using an acupuncture technique to the ears. The little coiled pins were taped to the ear by an accupuncturist in the locations for 1 week and then moved to the alternate ear for a week and this went on for a month or a little more. By then the urge to smoke was gone.
Everybody is different so the time and effectiveness could be different. If there is a relapse at some point due to some emotional issue, don't give up, redo the process. I had several relapses.
I haven't smoked in years. Exercising everyday even in limited amounts helps the body to resist.
