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Need Urgent Help for Friend Whose Joints Are Dissolving and in Severe PainPosted By Looms (Hawaii ) on 02/16/2022
Replied by Magnolia (US) on 02/17/2022
She lived for decades with this and died about 2 years ago, I cannot remember what the exact cause of death was. She was remarkable in the amount of pain she endured. Your friend needs specialists - bone, pain, etc. I think most of my friend's drs. were in Orlando, FL. I don't know if your friend's situation is the exact same or not, but it does not sound like it will be a smooth easy solution to me. One of my friend's greatest disappointments was in not being able to receive a hug from her young grandchildren, as her bones would break. This is one of the horrible, life-changing illnesses out there. I really don't remember what the drs. called it. I lost touch with them when I moved away.
Replied by Stephanie (Long Valley, Nj) on 02/17/2022
Replied by Beverly (Oakdale, TN) on 04/16/2023
Replied by Art (California) on 04/16/2023
Such a high dose of green tea (nearly a gallon per day) can cause liver disease or damage. Liver disease can cause joint problems and painful joints. The following overview describes how large amounts of tea can affect the liver negatively :
Here is a relevant quote from the overview :
' Green tea extract and, more rarely, ingestion of large amounts of green tea have been implicated in cases of clinically apparent acute liver injury, including instances of acute liver failure and either need for urgent liver transplantation or death.'
The following study describes how liver problems can negatively impact joints :
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/joint-and-muscle-pain-with-liver-disease
Here is a relevant quote :
' A cause of joint pain in people with liver disease is arthritis, which is inflammation of the joints. Arthritis can cause joint swelling, stiffness, and pain. '
That is an unusually large amount of tea per day. Is her doctor aware that she drinks that much tea per day and has he tested her liver enzymes lately? If not he should. Doctors should be aware that a component of tea, EGCG, can damage the liver and given the amount she is drinking, should be a consideration in trying to determine what is causing her joint pains. At a minimum a liver enzyme test should be done in order to rule out liver damage as a potential cause for her pain.
You might suggest to your mom to take a vacation from tea to see if it is helpful in reducing her pain. If her liver enzymes turn out to be elevated, definitely stop the tea intake.
Art
Replied by Magnolia (US) on 04/17/2023
Replied by Rob (Kentucky) on 04/17/2023
Suggestion: I would go on Oregano oil capsules (internally) for a long time if it's server case.
Source:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30485517/
Topically: I would use my Menthol-Camphor Extra Strength Formula that I make. I've had good results with it on the joint affliction in a very short time. Let's just say stronger that anything on the US market. We use it on the horses.
Replied by Christine (perth Western Australia) on 04/21/2023
Replied by Jose (Pensacola FL ) on 04/22/2023
Take a high quality curcumin supplement for additional pain relief.
Take Type 2 collagen to provide the nutrient that is necessary to rebuild the joint cartilage.
Daily long term usage of these three supplements is necessary.
After 3 weeks there should be noticable improvement with pain and mobility.
After 3 months there should be significant improvement.
Depending on the amount of joint damage, it may take a year or longer for complete cartilage repair.
The Type 2 collagen needs to be taken indefinitely.
Replied by Tom (currently Tucson, AZ) on 04/23/2023
I take a 500 mg capsule of SwansonVitamins or PipingRock brands of chicken sternum (CS) daily because I have seen CS restore the cartilage in people's knees, hips, etc. They were able to cancel their hip and knee replacements after about 4 months or sooner.
15 years ago, my knees were loose in their sockets and taking chicken sternum restored them, improving my knees almost immediately and by filling in the cartilage over about 4 months.
I also take 2 capsules of the NOW brand calcium hydroxyapatite (CH) caps which cures my previously sensitive teeth. CH is the bioavailable form of calcium found in teeth and bones.
2 capsules is a total of 500 mg of calcium which is the max daily dose of calcium that should be taken, according to Dr. Shallenberger of SecondOpinionNewsletter.com and his free Health Alert emails.
I see lifetime CH as a logical preventive and restorative for osteoporosis. LuckyVitamin seems to consistently have the best price for CH, although SwansonVitamins and PipingRock also carry it.