Replied by Marten from Yukon on 07/24/2025

What about adding DMSO to your lotion?????

Replied by Pam from Ohio on 07/24/2025

Is it ok to use this while still taking the oral borax (1/8 tsp in a liter of water for me) or is that too much borax per day? My hands are really where I feel arthritis pain the most. Thanks!

Replied by Austyn from Texas on 07/24/2025

Tap Water? ..are you crazy? We don't need birth control pills and chlorine in a 'healing lotion! Come On...

Replied by Art from California on 07/24/2025

Hi Austyn,

As I said in the post, it is just for the test period and given that the whole bottle only contains 1.5 ounces of tap water and you are only getting a tiny bit of that per use, it doesn't seem like that much of a problem, but if it is a problem for you, simply substitute distilled or filtered water for the tap water. Problem solved!

By the way, what water do you use when you take a shower or a bath?

Art

Replied by Art from California on 07/24/2025

Hi Pam,

Perhaps you can stop the oral borax while you test the lotion since you say the problem is mainly in your hands. My friend said she got very fast results within the week.

Art

Replied by Art from California on 07/24/2025

Hi Marten,

I think the Cetaphil lotion has too many "other ingredients" that the DMSO may help transport into your system and should not be used with this remedy. Used on the hands, as my friend did, this lotion worked fairly quickly by itself, without using DMSO.

Art

Replied by Sue from UK on 07/25/2025

It's interesting that people are finding they have problems with the oral dosing of borax. I'm new to this and couldn't get my head around the difference in total borax between Ted's protocol and Newnham/Last. I have stuck to the latter and am up to 3 teaspoons a day (=9mg boron) spread over 3 doses. Obviously the single dose is as important as the total daily dose. And Ted's protocol using regular sips is less that a 3mg single dose in the Newnham protocol. Personally I found that doubling my 3mg to 6mg in a single dose was too much so I stick to the 3mg (x3 doses/day presently). I still wonder whether the 56mg/112mg of Ted's protocol is not too much, even with the 2 days off per week. I appreciate it's horses for courses.

With regard to Art's topical, could you use aloe vera gel in lieu of the other stuff?

Replied by Tessa from Okanagan on 07/29/2025

Hi Sue -

I've used Art's wonderful borax lotion using only borax and 100% aloe vera gel from the health food store.

The brand I use is "Lily of the Desert" - made in the U.S. and readily available (I live in Canada). I imagine any 100% pure aloe vera gel would work.

After I combined the borax and aloe vera gel, I let it sit for about 1 hour or 2.

The borax had dissolved completely. The lotion was nice, smooth and moisturizing - ready to be slathered on my aching joints.

I hope it works for you too!

Replied by john from london on 09/28/2025

Hi Art,

Why not just mix water with borax and apply that on the skin?

Replied by Art from California on 09/29/2025

Hi John,

There were two reasons for the lotion in borax lotion. For some people borax water can have a drying effect on the skin. The other reason is that borax is poorly absorbed through the skin and apparently Cetaphil and some other lotions have ingredients that enhance skin penetration. So the lotion seems to eliminate those two problems as simply as possible.

Art