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Anonymous (Mt. Vernon, Washington) on 08/10/2005

you can get an accurate pH reading by using one drop bromthymol blue in urine and saliva. Reading should be between 6.4 and 6.8. Take the test 1.5 hrs. after eating. Test after eating foods to see how your body reacts. Strips aren't as accurate.
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Replied by Ted from Bangkok, Thailand on 03/01/2004

Yes, strips are not accurate. Urinary pH changes very quickly even within 1-2 hours after eating so you don't have to wait that long. This sound like testing them for doing a blood tests. In blood test you must fast for at least overnight. However, urinary pH is fast acting. Also normal salivary pH is frequently over 7. The mentioned method might work for urinary pH. However it is very difficult to know how far off the mark since most urinary pH varies between 5.5 to 7.5. While the mentioned method will tell you reach it, in practice, getting over 6 is usually acceptable. However, there are exceptions such as serious conditions as cancer or flu, in which you have to get them over 7.0 - 7.3 to kill or destroy the virus or cancer.

However, i prefer to use digital pH meters since you can calibrate with greater accuracy. At least here in Thailand, the price of a pocket digital pH is the same as the chemical methods, it was rather easy for me to go digital pH. Obtaining a digital pH is easier than getting chemical versions for most people since you can get them at a garden shop or pet shops also

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Replied by Ron from Emporia, Kansas on 12/26/2009

Hi Ted, I've enjoyed reading your ideas about and experiences with nutrition.

I have read several references to pH by you in other sections of this site and found myself confused on exactly what you might consider the Ideal pH for the urine or saliva. In this section here you described it very well. The Ideal pH of 6.4 and an acceptable range of 6.1 to 6.8 agrees pretty much with the J. D. Jarvis experiments in his book and with the studies of Carey Reams.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Replied by Ted from Bangkok, Thailand on 12/27/2009

Dear Ron: The pH I am looking for test is either below or above 7. This is true especially of saliva. So a bromthymol blue measures in a range of only 6.4 to 6.8. Therefore the range of bromthymol blue has some limitations also.

For urine pH the range is 6.5, but for a saliva pH, the ideal pH is around 7.3. Hence the bromthymol blue is more ideal for the measurement of urinary pH.

Mostly the urine pH falls between 6. to 6.8 to be acceptable. But when a person is sick, I need to get the pH of the urine to be closer to 7.

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Replied by Gwen from Boulder, Co. Usa on 02/04/2010

Dear Ted, I am having a hard time finding out what potassium bi-carbonate is, common name etc...where I can purchase. Don't know what I'm asking/looking for. I also noted you recommended for alkalizing tumors in dogs.

Sodium bi-carbonate = Baking Soda

Potassium bi-carbonate = ?
(potassium bitrate = Cream of Tar Tar)

Magnesium Carbonate = ?
Magnesium sulfate = Epsom Salt

Please help me clarify these substances. I have googled but found no common name. I have been suffering with abscess on root of tooth that won't come to a head to drain. It is hard to research & maybe others having same problem as me?

After trying everything holistically suggested on EC, it hit me that the pH most likely the problem. Started Baking soda & am getting some relief & movement. I am 60 yrs old & acid/alkaline balance has a big effect on me. I use the baking soda/lemon or lime etc. process, but would like to know/try ?Potassium Bicarbonate? you suggested.....

Please & Thank you for your time & info. Many Thanks & Blessings to ALL! Gwen
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Replied by Bill from San Fernando, Philippines on 02/05/2010

Hi Gwen...In answer to some of your questions:

Potassium Bicarbonate: No other name that I know of. Other similar potassium supplements to try are potassium citrate, potassium gluconate and potassium carbonate.

Magnesium Carbonate: Occurs naturally as Magnesite and Dolomite. If you are trying to suppement with Magnesium, there are two methods to do this:

1. By taking Magnesium supplements such as Mag Citrate, Mag Gluconate, Mag Sulphate or Mag Bicarbonate. To make an easy and cheap fortified Magnesium water supplement -- Magnesium Bicarbonate in solution -- using soda water and Phillip's Milk of Magnesia(I do this), see this link here.

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f11/make-your-own-magnesium-bicarbonate-drink-tastes-sweet-46555/

2. Use Magnesium Chloride or Magnesium Sulphate(Epsom Salts) baths and/or body sprays to absorb Magnesium directly into your body transdermally(through your skin). More Magnesium will be absorbed transdermally than with supplements and this is a very efficient and simpler method than taking magnesium supplements which sometimes causes diarrhea.

I'm sorry that you're suffering from abscess tooth pain. Here are some suggested remedies from Earth Clinic which might help you:

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/tooth_abscess.html

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Replied by Harold from NY on 02/16/2021

There is a product called pH Adjust that contain sodium potassium and magnesium bicarbonate. It can be purchased on amazon. About $22.
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Replied by Margaret Alice from Jacksonville Fl on 07/02/2025

Use garlic put it in your mouth leave as long as you can. it works Salt will kill pain
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