Re: Borax Safety
Art (California) on 07/23/2023
This study is not a human or animal study but was only using blood from 40 men and then they added these high doses of borax to the blood and tested what happened to the cells in the blood. This completely eliminates the natural elimination process that the body uses to filter. That includes the liver, kidneys and digestive tract which all are constantly removing toxicants. In their blood testing, the borax level remained the same because it was not being constantly filtered out as it would be in the body. In the body the borax has a half-life of only 21 hours which means it is cleared from the body fairly quickly as discussed here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6595986/#:~:text=The halflife (t 1/2, low amounts of boric acid.
In the study example you linked to, the borax never has any chance to clear or be filtered out which would increase the toxicity of such high doses, exactly as the study showed and would be expected.
Your second link is not a study, but rather an article that makes statements which are supposedly backed by three links included in the article. The first link does not work. the second link supposedly takes you to a rat study to confirm the statements where they gave the rats 70 grams or 70, 000 mg of borax and surprisingly to me it did not kill the rats but caused significant damage. This is not actually a rat study, but rather a compilation of various doses in different animals and they include this reference to humans :
| oral/man | lowest published lethal dose: 709 mg/kg |
So I take 985 mg of borax. If I convert the above dose (709 mg per kilogram) to me, that would be 56, 720 mg of borax (I weigh 80 kg) or 57 times the dose that I take. Again, too much of anything will kill you and I think it is reasonable for me to accept that taking 57 times my normal dose of borax may kill me. Thank you for helping me prove my point with your own study! Nobody on EC is taking these crazy high doses. If you take a 57 times higher dose of most supplements you are going to have serious health problems or be dead and borax is no exception!
To give a little context, my bottle of Extra Strength Acetaminophen (Generic Tylenol) says to take 1000 mg every 6 hours. Medscape says the following about acetaminophen :
Minimum toxic doses of acetaminophen for a single ingestion, posing significant risk of severe hepatotoxicity, are as follows:
So I would have to take only 10 times the regular dose in order to already be in the toxic range. That's just 10 times compared to the 57 times for borax.
Too much of most things can kill you, but nobody is taking these kind of dosages of borax!
Art
Psoriatic Arthritis - Question for Paddy
Art (California) on 07/22/2023
I disagree with your statement that borax is poison. Borax has kept my severe psoriatic arthritis in remission for 15 years. I have been pain free since starting borax 15 years ago and taking it every weekday with weekends off. This study shows that Borax is safe even at dosing way above what people have reported using on EC :
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10050929/
Here is a relevant quote from the study :
' Humans would need to consume daily some 3.3 g of boric acid (or 5.0 g borax) to ingest the same dose level as the lowest animal NOAEL. No effects on fertility were seen in a population of workers exposed to borates or to a population exposed to high environmental borate levels. There is remarkable similarity in the toxicological effects of boric acid and borax across different species. Other inorganic borates that simply dissociate to boric acid are expected to display similar toxicity, whereas those that do not dissociate simply to boric acid may display a different toxicological profile. '
This next study adds further confirmation to the safety of borax highlighted in the first study :
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26511087/
Art
