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Ma (Phoenix) on 06/11/2020:
A brief health history first:
I suffer from R. Arthritis for about 10 years. The first 9 years I've been able to manage pretty well with exercise strict diet and herbs. The last year, I seemed to have gotten worse to a point that I couldn't get out of bed. Everything I ate caused me severe joint pain that I just would starve myself and sleep all day. I also noticed that I wasn't hungry anymore and lost about 15 lbs in less than 6 months. I'm petite 110lb and went down to 95 lbs where my bones in my shoulders and ribs were showing. I tried my own natural remedies: turmeric, acv, etc. and still severe pain
Finally after 6 months of nothing working, I saw a local ND but she was no help. All she did was suggest detox supplements that she sold and although I had a little bit more energy, my joint pain was unbearable, like 9 to 10 unbearable and barely getting any sleep at night. I spent about $1000 on her and I was still suffering. She also was a devout believer in muscle testing, so she would tell me I couldn't eat this food or that food which left me barely eating and starving myself further.
I tried elimination diet while in her care and I was starving myself figuring out what foods to eat. I think she made me worse. Then I broke down and decided to spend money on a functional practitioner and he ordered a thorough panel of tests: blood, stool, urine, etc. I found out that I was severely deficient in vitamins, iron, calcium, etc. So I had several bacteria in my stool (h.pylori), had methylation, and high ammomia, high cholesterol, etc. So instead of tackling my bacteria issues which were causing me digestive issues, he sold me expensive herbal supplements to focus on reducing inflammation which cost another 200. Then after 2 weeks he started adding b vitamins and vitamin d but no probiotics or anything to focus on my digestion. I drank Ted's antibacterial tea (1 tsp of each: thyme, cumin, oregano, ceylon cinnamon, and 1/2tsp of clove (everything was grounded) and drank that 2 to 3 times a day and that really helped my joint and my digestion but was still feeling nauseous and having very loose stools..
Finally I decided to let him go and found an amazing ND from N. Mexico. I left a message to the front desk about my issues and he told her to call me back told me to take 4 drops of Lugols first thing AM and Afternoon on empty stomach wait an hour and then take enteric probiotic then wait an hour to eat. He said in about 4 days you should start feeling better. In 2 days, I was pain free and was able to eat way better. Not perfect but 80 to 85% improvement. I decided to drive 6 hours to go see him the next week. I told him about my lab test and all my issues. He didn't even look at them. He knew exactly what I needed. I forgot to add that I also have a very painful right shoulder that is frozen. An xray showed demineralization and osteoporosis (he said vitamin c will cure this).
So he gave me this regimen: no gluten or dairy, eat chicken, eggs, legumes, and lots of fruits and veggies, 4000 mg of vit c, a mutivitamin which includes probiotics and digestive enzymes, fulvic and humic acid drink, plant based iron supplement, and said to sit in sun for 30 minutes everyday for vitamin D. He also told me about earthing which I try to do everyday but now I'm looking into making an earthling mat for my bed. He also said, do an epsom salt flush. I waited a few days to do this flush but in the meantime, everything he gave me, my pain went from 9 to 10 to 2 to 4 just in a few days.
So here is my experience with epsom salt flush. It was a horrible experience. It tasted terrible and although I had lots of chaff and green stones, I was nauseous and had diarrhea and pounding headache for a week rendering me not being able to take supplements or eat anything losing 5 lbs and my weight going down to 90lbs.. A few days later, I suffered severe pain heart palpitations that I thought I was having a heart attack that would not stop after a half hour. I almost went to the emergency room but was scared about the covid. I tried everything to calm it down: breathing exercises, meditation, thinking happy thoughts, but my heart kept pumping hard. Finally I decided to take cbd and it helped me fall asleep peacefully with no problems. I woke up in the morning and my heart started pounding again but not as badly as the night before. I decided to do some research on epsom salt and read that it has high magnesium and figured out on my own that you need potassium to balance it. So I ate banana and freshly squeezed pink grapefruit (from my tree) every day and I haven't had any problems with my heart ever again. It's been 2 weeks since I did the flush. I think the reason my body reacted so badly to it is because I was already sick from the h. Pylori and nutritionally deficient, and so underweight that my body couldn't handle that much magnesium. I want to try the flush again bc I think it will help my digestion but I'm doing extensive research before I engage. I also want to gain more weight before I put my body through that again.
Sorry such a long story but I am feeling way better. My body has been through so much for the past year that now I'm just getting my strength back and am slowly introducing my body to different foods, almost like a baby. My pain has subsided to level 1 to 2 maybe 4 on bad days. My right shoulder is better but I found out I pinched a nerve in my neck causing my shoulder pain which I can barely move. I'm just going to start pt and go from there. That Lugol's saved my life and now I can sleep eat and exercise. And what's amazing, it only cost $ 12 for 2 bottles of 2%. I spent over 4k on the the 2 doctors and got nowhere. Shows that even ND's don't know what they're doing. Finding a good one very rare.
Hope my story helps. Stay safe and healthy!
Ronald S. (Loudon, NH) on 08/22/2019:
That night before going to bed you drink 3/4 of a juice glass of a good olive oil and 1/4 of the glass with lemon juice. You go to bed immediately and hopefully sleep. You can take "Orthinine" before bedtime to help you sleep. The next morning my wife passed a ton of stones, some large most the size of a pea. All day she passed stones and the next day passed more for a total of 261 stones!! After that they stopped. Wow! We couldn't believe it. For each of the products we took, follow the directions on the bottle or take them according to Hildah Clark's website.
We will try it again in a couple of months. You could try the Chanco Piedra capsules three times per day for four days and then just take the lemon juice and olive oil and see what happens. it most likely will work. I am going to try this method myself in a week or so. Ronald
Galina (United States) on 07/20/2019:
Dave (Houston ) on 07/09/2018:
Dark green stones are the older ones, light green to tan are newer. Cholesterol, the main component of stones, is light and floats. You are always making new stones, I noticed when I need more sleep it is time for a cleanse. Cholesterol will bond with calcium making them really difficult to dissolve (these stones show up on x-ray, newer stones will not), so the Flush is the effective way for people new to liver maintenance to proceed. Epsom salts are rather hard to swallow after several flushes, so I found that a swallow of pop after downing each dose helps reduce the aftertaste.
Also, this may sound silly, keep your tongue on the floor of your mouth, taste buds on the bottom of your tongue strongly taste Epsom salt.
Blake (Fort Worth) on 01/24/2018:
Instead of stopping the flush in the morning according to the protocol, I extended it the rest of the day because I did not start passing the green stones until the end. I thought I should keep it going to see if more would come out - and they did!
I added Grapefruit Seed Extract to the Epsom Salt drink on day 2 because I am pretty sure GSE is good for killing parasites.
In the weeks prior to the flush, I did 6 weeks of coffee enemas, drank ACV, drank beet juice, and ate lots and lots of spinach. Also, I purchased a mini-trampoline, jumping about 3 times a week, which is excellent for the digestive system and probably helped stimulate the stones to pass.
I am grateful to the good Lord for giving me wisdom to heal my liver. Thanks to Earth Clinic for this helpful site! It's great to know I can easily do this again in the future. And ya know - the process really was not all that unpleasant!!
Isabel R. (Ningbo, China) on 01/07/2018:
But I did an ultrasound check and it shows still a 15 mm gallstone! So my question is, is there a way to dissolve this big gallstone with chanca piedra (have already been taking it for a month)
And how much time would it take me. Have you had any succesfull experience dissolving big gallstones?
I do not eat meat anymore, nor milk or cheese. Only fish and eggs. I do not eat sugar anymore nor bread. My liver exams shows my liver is in perfect condition now, also my pancreas.
What more can I do?
Thanks in advance!
Stephanie (Ca) on 12/11/2017:
1) plan an evening and the next day when you can take it easy and not have responsibilities.
2) on day of cleanse EAT ABSOLUTELY NO FAT WHATSOEVER! It’s only one day and yes this includes creamer in your coffee!
3) fast and limit water intake after noon on day of cleanse.
4) have the following on hand: 60 capsules of Epsom salts (Hulda Clark store online has them, maybe your health food store) two fresh grapefruits, organic olive oil.
5) at 5pm take 15 capsules and enough water to swallow.
6) prep your bedtime, do hygiene, arrange bed so you can sleep on back.
7) prep 3/4 C squeezed grapefruit juice and 1/2C olive oil.
8) at 9:00 take 15 more capsules
9) At 10:00 sharp, drink ALL OF THE MIXTURE AND LAY DOWN ON YOUR BACK. Don’t get up until am.
10)when you wake take 15 more caps. You are going to have diarrhea! Look for little plugs floating in the toilet, these are the stones (google pic search “gallstones” to see what you’re looking for).
10) four hours later take your fourth and last dose of 15 caps. You can re introduce food slowly, start with some fruit or rice, something mild.
WHY DOES THIS WORK?
Not eating fat causes bile to build up; (if you cheat and don’t fast you will get nauseous) epson salts dilate sphincter of gall bladder; drinking oil stimulates GB to contract expelling stones; the stones float because they are made of cholesterol. This is VERY safe to do, and is best done before a bad attack, but if you are in an attack, taking epson salts will ease the pain (because it dilates the sphincter and eases pressure). I have done both during an attack and when I wasn’t having an attack to prevent one. The first time I did it one of my stones was calcified! You can also get just a bunch of cholesterol “chaff” that is clogging up your GB but hasn’t formed stones yet.
IF YOUR PAIN DOES NOT SUBSIDE OR YOU HAVE A FEVER GO TO THE DOCTOR!
Good luck! 😉
Mark (Ghana) on 07/30/2017:
As at that time had no idea how to deal with it, doctor suggested surgery but didn't opted to that till early last year with several attacks I spent more time to researched online other alternatives to deal with the problem. So lucky I came across liver flush. A lot mores stones came out .
Presently I have been having frequent attacks, I tried the flush few greenish stones came out. I had my gallbladder check and is left with 1.20cm stone left. Can this still cause attacks since I have been having attacks lately?
Candi (Nashville, Tn) on 06/08/2017:
Jhinton (Columbus, Ohio) on 07/05/2016:
I did a cleanse the next day and another one a few days after that. I drank about a gallon of unsweetened apple juice, some distilled water, and a tbs or so of apple cider vinegar, and ate nothing but a can of beets mixed with flax seed oil. At night I drank a bottle of Magnesium Citrate (epsom salts might be a bit better, but tastes terrible) followed an hour later by a half and half mixture of olive oil and lemon juice, then went straight to bed. In the morning I drank a second bottle of Magnesium Citrate and another a few hours later. I passed a large number of stones, a few hundred, and still have my gall bladder.
I did another one a few days later (although, some naturopaths advise against one so soon) and another a few weeks later. It is better to fast on the juices for 3 days before doing the olive oil and lemon juice, but after my serious attack I wasn't going to put it off that long.
Preventative measures that I've used include drinking a tbs or more of flax seed oil a half hour before meals, and mixing the oil with beets when I feel discomfort. I've been warned against coffee, but I read a study that states that those who drink 4 or more cups of coffee per day are far less likely to have a gall bladder attack. I can't verify that study, but I do not restrict my coffee drinking.
I started having some pains again while climbing Mt. Aconcagua in Argentina, but they were only enough to make me nervous. I was on the highest mountain in the world outside of Asia, and having a full blown attack was something to fear. For this reason, I'm going through a cleanse right now as a preventive measure before my wife and I go on a Mekong River cruise in Vietnam and Cambodia. The temporary discomfort and trouble involved with cleanses is nothing compared with the pain and danger of a serious gall bladder attack.