BHT, Magnesium, and Clean Water for Gallstones Ron (USA) on 05/26/2024
Good day! I have suffered from gallstones causing gallbladder attacks twice yearly beginning fall of 2019. I have found a very simple remedy that allows me to cheaply treat my gallstones when they present each spring and fall.
Number 1: Most remedies will not work long term if the underlying issue remains present. For me one of my underlying issues is the quality of water I consume. My diet has already been modified.
Clean Water
I have to use a reverse osmosis system that adds minerals back in post filtration. Even more importantly is keeping the filters changed not just on time, but slightly early. If filters are not changed on time, contaminants and mineral deposits the body cant use are leeched back into your drinking water and will cause harm to your health.
For example: my current system is a single all in one filter system by Waterdrop. Filter life advertised as "1 year". Never go by this. Look at amount of gallons filtered instead. Mine is 950. The drain:waste ratio is 1:1. Means that for every gallon of water filtered for consumption; another gallon is drained as waste by the system. Therefore; I can only really expect to get 475 gallons of use from this filter. I use about 2.5 gal a day. 475 divided by 2.5gal per day = 190 days of use. That gives me roughly 6 months of filter life. I find when I get close to the 6 month mark, I begin to get nausea, dizziness, and gallbladder pangs and stabs as stones begin to form rapidly from my now unfiltered and contaminated water due to an overused filter.
My Remedy
If 1/16th tsp BHT doesn't do it, I take another 1/16th tsp and more magnesium as needed.
For my 70 lb dog, I give her the same remedy in a bit of milk if she has stones and her symptoms disappear within literally 5 minutes. She runs through my legs and appears to be having a seizure when she gets stones. We both got gallbladder problems a couple years after pesticide overuse inside our home. Every spring and fall we pass more stones but it gets easier each year.
The main underlying issue here was chemical poisoning causing organ damage. For this, we use sea kelp, cilantro, and magnesium drops altogether several times a week to continually detox. We mop-up with charcoal (1tsp with a few drops magnesium) once or twice a week, too.
So far we have survived. and thrived
I used to do castor oil packs (can get messy and time consuming) and make quart after quart of Chanca piedra tea. But this is all very time consuming and the chanca piedra tea is much more expensive to keep drinking than simply using less than a penny's worth of BHT and magnesium when attacks present.
Bear in mind that according to many systems of belief around health; and especially Ayurveda knowledge (4000+ year old school of medicine in India); every fall and spring the body goes through a natural but somewhat major detox. It's worse on those persons' bodies who have excessive toxins accumulated or do not care for their health actively. Gallstones appear to worsen during these times for individuals affected by them.
Lisa (California, USA) on 02/14/2024
I found also through research the Chanca Piedra. I bought a box of the tea off Amazon. I felt such relief quickly. I took it until the pain was gone, a few days. Then it started again. So I took it again until the pain was gone, a few days. I always stopped when the pain was gone. Within a month, it must have broken up and passed. I have not had pain or issues there since. I still have the original box with a few bags remaining, and I gave 2 bags to friends. The tea tastes nice too! ~ Lisa
Presouz (Sunny Ca) on 12/23/2022
Eating no to low fat diet, my gallbladder became very, very sluggish and wouldn't work properly. So in 2005 Dr recommend me schedule a gallbladder removal. Scan showed me having 6 stones. I know 6 stones back then was NOTHING!! THEY love to yank out body parts on a whim with out any trying to save it. BOTH MOM and sister got out theirs and never the same since, always having diarrhea. I didn't want that life.
Feeling I caught it in time, I did save my gallbladder with 2 weeks of hour nightly HEATED CASTOR OIL packs and months of weekly use to maintain. Changed my diet to more grass fed butter grass fed beef and beef fat, and LOWER CARBS no gluten, no sugars or potatoes, PERIOD.
Here is is 2022 and still have my gallbladder. I do have some issues few times a year, but I have found Im pretty sure its histamine issues, happens with aged foods or shellfish. I now eat GLUTEN FREE, sugar free (use keto sugars instead) Low oxalate food and low histamine food.
Older I got the worse I felt eating those foods. Yeah, I mess up few times a year, but only proves to me, I am doing the right thing other wise.
Science (Cyprus) on 04/24/2022
This curement with apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil and lemon really excellent curement, to save you from operation. However I suggest you find a practitioner who does this method, so to supervise this process. It is better not to attempt it alone.
Remember this information, since is of absolute importance. This I discovered it myself and then after some months I have read it also in another article. Probably someone else discovered it also, before I discovered have discovered it.
REMEMBER THIS INFORMATION, SINCE YOU WILL RARELY SEE THIS INFORMATION, IN ANY WEBSITE AND THIS INFORMATION CAN SAVE YOU FROM VERY SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES, IN CASE A STONE IS STUCKED IN THE GALLBLADER DUCT.
HERE IS THE INFORMATION:
THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN DURING THIS FLASHING, IS THAT A STONE CAN STUCK IN THE GALLBLADDER DUCT. YOU WILL FILL A DULL CONTINUOUS PAIN BELOW YOUR RIGHT RIB. IF THIS STONE IS NOT MOVED OUT, THEN IT CAN CAUSE ICTERUS, WHICH IS A VERY SERIOUS CONDITION.
THUS IN CASE A STONE IS BEING STUCKED IN GALLBLADDER DURING A CLEANSING, SIMPLY IN FEW HOURS AFTER THE CLEANSING (ABOUT 2 TO 3 HOURS AFTER THE CLEANSING), DRINK ONE TABLE SPOON OF EPSOM SALTS AND THEN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR AFTER YOU DRINK EPSOM SALTS DRINK ONCE MORE OLIVE OIL WITH LEMON MIXTURE (SAME QUANTITY AS YOU USED BEFORE, ABOUT 4/5 OF A GLASS WITH OLIVE OIL AND 1/5 OF A GLASS WITH LEMON).
THIS METHOD OF USING AGAIN IN SOME HOURS EPSOM SALTS, OLIVE OIL AND LEMON IS NOT KNOWN FROM MANY PRACTITIONERS IN CASE A STONE GETS STUCK DURING CLEANSING, THUS HAVE IT IN MIND SINCE IT CAN REMOVE STONES THAT MAY BE STUCK IN GALLBLADDER DURING CLEANSING. LEARN WELL THIS METHOD. IT CAN SAVE YOU FROM AN OPERATION.
Also in case you would like to avoid the olive Oil, Lemon, etc. protocol, whether you have small or large stones in the gallbladder, you can use directly Chanca Piedra capsules, without any Olive oil, Lemon etc. protocol.
Avoided Gallstone Surgery With These Remedies Monica (New York ) on 12/28/2021
I started having a strange pain on my right side that I basically ignored for months until one day after eating lunch and having an alcoholic beverage, within 20-30 minutes I had pain under my rib cage that was a little more alarming. I immediately related it to the food. I finally went to the doc, he sent me for an u/s and confirmed multiple stones, one being as big as 2cm. He then referred me to a surgeon which I never went to because I started researching all I could about gallstones. I'm a big believer in natural remedies and before going the surgical route I like to try other things. I wasn't completely against it just seemed so definitive and I don't do well with being told to do things without good reason. Anyway long story short I never got the surgery, I am eating like I used to and I no longer have pain. I should add after finding out I had stones the pain did get worst at night and I couldn't sleep well. So here's everything I did asap and nothing is in particular order. I just threw everything I could at this.
I should add that though I ate so many apples and apple juice before the flushes, and I would get temporary relief it wasn't until I used Malic Acid (500mg, 3x's a day=1500mg for 6 days before flush) instead for the 4th flush that one *large* stone came out and after that the pain finally was all gone.
Its been more than a year and I still have my gallbladder, no pain, I sleep well, and I am able to enjoy some of the yummy things I used to like doughnuts, chips, fried foods, alcohol. I do this in moderation now but before I couldn't eat any at all or I'd have pain. I still eat my salads consistently and occasionally take some Chanca Piedra. I continue to eat as healthy as possible.
I hope this helps you to not give up!
Thank You for Saving My Father's Life Reese (Manila ) on 12/08/2021
Ronald S. (Loudon, NH) on 08/22/2019
That night before going to bed you drink 3/4 of a juice glass of a good olive oil and 1/4 of the glass with lemon juice. You go to bed immediately and hopefully sleep. You can take "Orthinine" before bedtime to help you sleep. The next morning my wife passed a ton of stones, some large most the size of a pea. All day she passed stones and the next day passed more for a total of 261 stones!! After that they stopped. Wow! We couldn't believe it. For each of the products we took, follow the directions on the bottle or take them according to Hildah Clark's website.
We will try it again in a couple of months. You could try the Chanco Piedra capsules three times per day for four days and then just take the lemon juice and olive oil and see what happens. it most likely will work. I am going to try this method myself in a week or so. Ronald
Galina (United States) on 07/20/2019
Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 10/10/2020
I may have already reported but haven't had any trouble since discovering remedies on EC.
I just drink lemonade in summer - and occasionally at other times of the year - and take a couple of swigs of olive oil from time to time. Seems to keep things cleared out. The lemon juice breaks down the "glue" that holds the crystals together as well as that which keeps crystals attached to the walls of the gall bladder and the olive oil just seems to grease the way on their way out.
Someone pointed out that the olive oil doesn't travel the urinary tract, which is probably true, but I suspect it is distributed through the walls and membranes, rather than the kidney/bladder path one ordinarily associates with the urinary tract if for no other reason than that it works and passing stones that should hurt like the dickens on their way through don't hurt at all, nor create blockages.
As it takes time for the crystals to grow, once formed, I suspect olive oil alone, in passing through the membranes, may actually do both jobs, detaching the crystals from the walls of the gall bladder when they're just small AND flushing them out but I like lemonade so I drink it anyway :)
Gallbladder Flush Experience Ma (Phoenix) on 06/11/2020
A brief health history first:
I suffer from R. Arthritis for about 10 years. The first 9 years I've been able to manage pretty well with exercise strict diet and herbs. The last year, I seemed to have gotten worse to a point that I couldn't get out of bed. Everything I ate caused me severe joint pain that I just would starve myself and sleep all day. I also noticed that I wasn't hungry anymore and lost about 15 lbs in less than 6 months. I'm petite 110lb and went down to 95 lbs where my bones in my shoulders and ribs were showing. I tried my own natural remedies: turmeric, acv, etc. and still severe pain
Finally after 6 months of nothing working, I saw a local ND but she was no help. All she did was suggest detox supplements that she sold and although I had a little bit more energy, my joint pain was unbearable, like 9 to 10 unbearable and barely getting any sleep at night. I spent about $1000 on her and I was still suffering. She also was a devout believer in muscle testing, so she would tell me I couldn't eat this food or that food which left me barely eating and starving myself further.
I tried elimination diet while in her care and I was starving myself figuring out what foods to eat. I think she made me worse. Then I broke down and decided to spend money on a functional practitioner and he ordered a thorough panel of tests: blood, stool, urine, etc. I found out that I was severely deficient in vitamins, iron, calcium, etc. So I had several bacteria in my stool (h.pylori), had methylation, and high ammomia, high cholesterol, etc. So instead of tackling my bacteria issues which were causing me digestive issues, he sold me expensive herbal supplements to focus on reducing inflammation which cost another 200. Then after 2 weeks he started adding b vitamins and vitamin d but no probiotics or anything to focus on my digestion. I drank Ted's antibacterial tea (1 tsp of each: thyme, cumin, oregano, ceylon cinnamon, and 1/2tsp of clove (everything was grounded) and drank that 2 to 3 times a day and that really helped my joint and my digestion but was still feeling nauseous and having very loose stools..
Finally I decided to let him go and found an amazing ND from N. Mexico. I left a message to the front desk about my issues and he told her to call me back told me to take 4 drops of Lugols first thing AM and Afternoon on empty stomach wait an hour and then take enteric probiotic then wait an hour to eat. He said in about 4 days you should start feeling better. In 2 days, I was pain free and was able to eat way better. Not perfect but 80 to 85% improvement. I decided to drive 6 hours to go see him the next week. I told him about my lab test and all my issues. He didn't even look at them. He knew exactly what I needed. I forgot to add that I also have a very painful right shoulder that is frozen. An xray showed demineralization and osteoporosis (he said vitamin c will cure this).
So he gave me this regimen: no gluten or dairy, eat chicken, eggs, legumes, and lots of fruits and veggies, 4000 mg of vit c, a mutivitamin which includes probiotics and digestive enzymes, fulvic and humic acid drink, plant based iron supplement, and said to sit in sun for 30 minutes everyday for vitamin D. He also told me about earthing which I try to do everyday but now I'm looking into making an earthling mat for my bed. He also said, do an epsom salt flush. I waited a few days to do this flush but in the meantime, everything he gave me, my pain went from 9 to 10 to 2 to 4 just in a few days.
So here is my experience with epsom salt flush. It was a horrible experience. It tasted terrible and although I had lots of chaff and green stones, I was nauseous and had diarrhea and pounding headache for a week rendering me not being able to take supplements or eat anything losing 5 lbs and my weight going down to 90lbs.. A few days later, I suffered severe pain heart palpitations that I thought I was having a heart attack that would not stop after a half hour. I almost went to the emergency room but was scared about the covid. I tried everything to calm it down: breathing exercises, meditation, thinking happy thoughts, but my heart kept pumping hard. Finally I decided to take cbd and it helped me fall asleep peacefully with no problems. I woke up in the morning and my heart started pounding again but not as badly as the night before. I decided to do some research on epsom salt and read that it has high magnesium and figured out on my own that you need potassium to balance it. So I ate banana and freshly squeezed pink grapefruit (from my tree) every day and I haven't had any problems with my heart ever again. It's been 2 weeks since I did the flush. I think the reason my body reacted so badly to it is because I was already sick from the h. Pylori and nutritionally deficient, and so underweight that my body couldn't handle that much magnesium. I want to try the flush again bc I think it will help my digestion but I'm doing extensive research before I engage. I also want to gain more weight before I put my body through that again.
Sorry such a long story but I am feeling way better. My body has been through so much for the past year that now I'm just getting my strength back and am slowly introducing my body to different foods, almost like a baby. My pain has subsided to level 1 to 2 maybe 4 on bad days. My right shoulder is better but I found out I pinched a nerve in my neck causing my shoulder pain which I can barely move. I'm just going to start pt and go from there. That Lugol's saved my life and now I can sleep eat and exercise. And what's amazing, it only cost $ 12 for 2 bottles of 2%. I spent over 4k on the the 2 doctors and got nowhere. Shows that even ND's don't know what they're doing. Finding a good one very rare.
Hope my story helps. Stay safe and healthy!
Dave (Houston ) on 07/09/2018
Dark green stones are the older ones, light green to tan are newer. Cholesterol, the main component of stones, is light and floats. You are always making new stones, I noticed when I need more sleep it is time for a cleanse. Cholesterol will bond with calcium making them really difficult to dissolve (these stones show up on x-ray, newer stones will not), so the Flush is the effective way for people new to liver maintenance to proceed. Epsom salts are rather hard to swallow after several flushes, so I found that a swallow of pop after downing each dose helps reduce the aftertaste.
Also, this may sound silly, keep your tongue on the floor of your mouth, taste buds on the bottom of your tongue strongly taste Epsom salt.
Mama To Many (Tn) on 02/10/2018
I picked Wednesday of this past week to do the flush, but realized I didn't have a grapefruit in the house. Once I did lemon juice and olive oil for the flush but thought it tasted awful and not nearly as easy to get down as the grapefruit juice and olive oil.
I did have pineapple juice in the house and decided I would try that. I keep tweaking my gallbladder flush procedure to make it as tolerable as possible.
I think juices only on the day of the fast are ideal, but I needed more energy to function so I did have cream of wheat with blueberries for breakfast and a home-made non-fat pita for lunch. I drank carrot juice and pineapple juice.
I used the Epsom salt water at 7 and 9 pm.
At 11 pm I used 1/3 cup olive oil and 1/3 cup pineapple juice. VERY easy to get down and not bad tasting at all.
I used a castor oil pack over the liver overnight during the flush since that seemed to help a lot one other time.
Thursday I used Natural Calm to keep the flush going instead of Epsom salt. Epsom salt in the morning is nearly intolerable to me.
I had a very successful flush and got out a lot of stones. Seemed like more than a gallbladder's worth, so maybe some came from the liver?
Conclusions: Pineapple juice did not hinder and may have benefited the flush.
Castor oil packs overnight on the night of the flush do seem to benefit. Plus I sleep great with a castor oil pack. I didn't wake up until 5:30 in the morning. No discomfort.
~Mama to Many~
Blake (Fort Worth) on 01/24/2018
Instead of stopping the flush in the morning according to the protocol, I extended it the rest of the day because I did not start passing the green stones until the end. I thought I should keep it going to see if more would come out - and they did!
I added Grapefruit Seed Extract to the Epsom Salt drink on day 2 because I am pretty sure GSE is good for killing parasites.
In the weeks prior to the flush, I did 6 weeks of coffee enemas, drank ACV, drank beet juice, and ate lots and lots of spinach. Also, I purchased a mini-trampoline, jumping about 3 times a week, which is excellent for the digestive system and probably helped stimulate the stones to pass.
I am grateful to the good Lord for giving me wisdom to heal my liver. Thanks to Earth Clinic for this helpful site! It's great to know I can easily do this again in the future. And ya know - the process really was not all that unpleasant!!
Alfalfa Pills Prevent Gallstone Attacks Rocio (Modesto, Ca) on 01/21/2018
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Isabel R. (Ningbo, China) on 01/07/2018
But I did an ultrasound check and it shows still a 15 mm gallstone! So my question is, is there a way to dissolve this big gallstone with chanca piedra (have already been taking it for a month)
And how much time would it take me. Have you had any succesfull experience dissolving big gallstones?
I do not eat meat anymore, nor milk or cheese. Only fish and eggs. I do not eat sugar anymore nor bread. My liver exams shows my liver is in perfect condition now, also my pancreas.
What more can I do?
Thanks in advance!
Stephanie (Ca) on 12/11/2017
1) plan an evening and the next day when you can take it easy and not have responsibilities.
2) on day of cleanse EAT ABSOLUTELY NO FAT WHATSOEVER! It’s only one day and yes this includes creamer in your coffee!
3) fast and limit water intake after noon on day of cleanse.
4) have the following on hand: 60 capsules of Epsom salts (Hulda Clark store online has them, maybe your health food store) two fresh grapefruits, organic olive oil.
5) at 5pm take 15 capsules and enough water to swallow.
6) prep your bedtime, do hygiene, arrange bed so you can sleep on back.
7) prep 3/4 C squeezed grapefruit juice and 1/2C olive oil.
8) at 9:00 take 15 more capsules
9) At 10:00 sharp, drink ALL OF THE MIXTURE AND LAY DOWN ON YOUR BACK. Don’t get up until am.
10)when you wake take 15 more caps. You are going to have diarrhea! Look for little plugs floating in the toilet, these are the stones (google pic search “gallstones” to see what you’re looking for).
10) four hours later take your fourth and last dose of 15 caps. You can re introduce food slowly, start with some fruit or rice, something mild.
WHY DOES THIS WORK?
Not eating fat causes bile to build up; (if you cheat and don’t fast you will get nauseous) epson salts dilate sphincter of gall bladder; drinking oil stimulates GB to contract expelling stones; the stones float because they are made of cholesterol. This is VERY safe to do, and is best done before a bad attack, but if you are in an attack, taking epson salts will ease the pain (because it dilates the sphincter and eases pressure). I have done both during an attack and when I wasn’t having an attack to prevent one. The first time I did it one of my stones was calcified! You can also get just a bunch of cholesterol “chaff” that is clogging up your GB but hasn’t formed stones yet.
IF YOUR PAIN DOES NOT SUBSIDE OR YOU HAVE A FEVER GO TO THE DOCTOR!
Good luck! ðŸËâ°
Linda (Ramona, Ca) on 10/20/2017
I went to my primary care doctor the following Tuesday with the diagnosis. The recommended treatment plan was surgery. A good friend referred me to Earthclinic.com where I familiarized myself with the recommendations for non-surgical alternatives.I started immediately with Stone Breaker capsules 3 times a day. I drank copious amounts of organic, unfiltered apple juice. I also took unfiltered apple cider vinegar and then switched to apple cider vinegar pills also 3 times a day. Within a few days I had no more pain. I did the flush recommended on Earthclinic and other sites twice one month apart. Apart from a good cleansing, I noticed no 'stones' being eliminated. By the end of May, I was taking the Stone Breaker caps and apple cider vinegar pills twice a day. I had added Chanca Piedra extract along with essential oils of cinnamon, ginger, and clove in juice once a day.Last Tuesday October 10th, I had a CT scan of the abdomen for another reason. The results came back with no issues with the liver, pancreas, spleen or other abdominal organs. No mention was made of any kind regarding gall stones.
Therefore I am a believer. Happy to have my gall bladder intact and happy to be living pain free with no significant change in diet.
Mark (Ghana) on 07/30/2017
As at that time had no idea how to deal with it, doctor suggested surgery but didn't opted to that till early last year with several attacks I spent more time to researched online other alternatives to deal with the problem. So lucky I came across liver flush. A lot mores stones came out .
Presently I have been having frequent attacks, I tried the flush few greenish stones came out. I had my gallbladder check and is left with 1.20cm stone left. Can this still cause attacks since I have been having attacks lately?
Candi (Nashville, Tn) on 06/08/2017
Holly (Toronto, Canada) on 03/07/2017
I have been visiting this site for years now and have always just spent my time reading and learning and have never posted, until now.
The reason I have finally posted is due to the fact that I simply want to warn people about one simple yet potentially very dangerous thing regarding the "Gall Bladder Cleanse" protocol.
I would highly recommend using lemon juice and NOT Grapefruit Juice if you are on certain medications. The list of medications that interact with Grapefruit juice is staggering and some of the interactions can be very severe, so if you are on a medication and still want to use it then please be sure to check that any medications you are on are actualy safe to take with the Grapefruit juice before starting.
Here is one of many links available showing medications that interact with Grapefruit juice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit–drug_interactions#Affected_drugs
Much love and light to all.
