Mark (Newton Abbot, Devon) on 01/16/2012
As a lifelong natural health advocate I have been addicted to the is site for many, many months now, a great deal of the info was not new to me, but so much more is, after many months of just browsing I finally decided to register and drop by to say hello, over the next few months I will try to find the time to offer some of my knowledge that should help others to fix various conditions, ( I have read certain posts that I think I can help with)
Right now I do have a question that you may want to post in the above section.
I popped my L5 disc in my back earlier this year from squatting (bodybuilding) and was told I needed surgery to fix it, I refused and decided to help it heal naturally (which it has done) the one mistake I made was to listen to the doc who told me to use ibuprofen for a few weeks to get past the worst of it, like a fool I did and ended up with wheezing / asthma which has passed with the help of a liquorice and a slippery elm supp, but now I have silent reflux which comes and goes throughout the day, I have no doubt that this was caused by the drugs as I have never had a problem with it prior, I am treating it again with the liquorice supp but wanted to ask if anyone knows how to tell if I now have ulcers, I have no stomach pain, I did have gas and bloating a few weeks back but this has now subsided and I am left with the LPR only, I believe I can treat it with the following.
Liquorice 3 - 4 x daily
slippery elm 3 - 4 x daily
high strength probiotics daily
digestive enzymes daily.
No sharp or crunchy food whilst healing to prevent aggravation to LES valve.
Manuka honey 3 x daily to help heal the LES valve
No onions whilst healing (My favourite! they may relax the LES valve a little.)
Liver detox to ensure adequate bile flow for acid formation.
My only uncertainty is whether or not the drugs have caused ulcers or just general damage to my stomach lining, if I have ulcers I can treat them easily but with a different approach (or they may just heal on their own ) to that above and without enzymes, (if I have ulcers they are likely only caused by inflammation and not virus related) does anyone know how to determine if ulcers are present without blood or stomach pain?
Once I have succeeded in fixing this ailment I will put all the info together for all those hundreds of others who are also suffering from the nasty side effects of using ibuprofen and other NSAID,
I have a pretty clear understanding of what has happened due to using the drugs but I am not sure if ulcers are present, other than blindly treating them first (which may be unnecessary) I do not know of a diagnostic method to determine their presence as I have never had them before. I see no point in visiting a GP to be offered more drugs (proton pumps etc. ) often they do no more than look at you with that mocking grin take an educated guess and offer drugs based on that, I can do better than that on my own!
Any tips would be useful, Thanks Mark
Replied By Timh (Louisville, Usa) on 01/17/2012
You have not listed the critical Zinc/Vit-A in your protocol for healing. Baking Soda and or Sea Salt are good to take Prior to the other supplements and meals to buffer any excess acid.
I wear a Magnetic Belt over my tummy region with very good results.
Symptoms of ulcers may include stabbing pain in the tummy region, bloating, blood in stools, diarrhea or constipation, vomiting. I have long had this kinds of probs but never diagnosed w/ ulcer. It sounds like simply gastritis (which can be severe in itself).
Hope this helps and good luck.
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot, Devon Uk) on 01/23/2012
Tim H, Thanks for the reply, I obviously do not have ulcers based on your description.
No problem with the liquorice and blood pressure issue I check it daily and mine is always spot on -low from a hectic fitness / bodybuilding and clean diet life style,
Good news to anyone interested,
My suspicions were correct in that the ibuprofen damages both the gut mucus membrane and also healthy bacteria, this is what I believe happens and my programme should fix many others with reflux issues permanently.
The ibuprofen (in my case) acts similar to antibiotics in that they destroy a fair amount of essential healthy bacteria in the gut and gi track, but ibuprofen also cause severe damage and inflammation to the stomach mucus membrane which governs the quantity and strength of stomach acid, as the membrane has been damaged it is no longer able to produce enough strong enough acid in the stomach, and this is where the problem lies because the acid strength controls the closing strength of the LES valve through the nervous system, the acid MUST be strong enough to digest food properly in order to produce a strong nerve signal to close the valve tightly after each mouthful of food has entered the stomach, if the acid is low or weak the valve will not close properly and depending on the severity this will cause acid to leak up into the throat area causing either full on heart burn, acid reflux or silent reflux the first two conditions are usually obvious but with silent reflux the cause is not always obvious as the symptoms are often little more than the feeling of a lump in the throat area near the voice box some discomfort may be felt in the ears and chest area and the voice may be week on occasion but generally the problem is not always associated with reflux.
If this seems to describe your situation you need to repair the gut and throat membrane whilst repopulating the gut with healthy bacteria, the plan above is how I did it in 3 - 4 days! Anti-acids will never fix this problem they can only make it worse as the acid is already to weak to close the LES obviously weakening the acid even more is not the answer.
So this was the cause of my acid reflux (initially) and then silent reflux (later)
My simple programme detailed above has sorted my problem in a few days! About a week has since past and all is well : - ) this was really bugging me for months so it demonstrates that a designated treatment programme is required to fix it
The only extra item I added was a few drops of aloe juice in my liquorice drink.
I intend to follow the programme for several more weeks to ensure a fully rebuilt gut environment.
It should be mentioned that my diet is and always has been spot on and healthy with lots of raw fruit and veg, if you do not eat this way you may not experience the same results as I did on this programme, remember that the healthy raw food is a major part in fixing this problem, I suspect the reflux for many is actually caused by poor diets as this alone is likely to cause inflammation and damage to the gut in much the same way as the ibuprofen did for me (and the hundreds of others on this site).
So clean up your diet and then follow the steps above and acid reflux will cease to exist.
Good luck!
Mark
Replied By Marina (Cresskill, Nj) on 01/25/2012
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Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot., Devon, Uk) on 10/01/2012
I am now treating it with The same basic remedy as suggested by Ted in the thrush section, it seems only too obvious that the silver has killed off a lot of my friendly flora and allowed thrush to populate the back of my throat (which normally has friendly bacteria living there) from experience it can take a few months to completely eliminate thrush/candida and repopulate the healthy flora, my reason for writing this is to advise if you have throat discomfort and are unsure of the cause it may be caused by thrush/ candida that has spread from an unbalanced internal terrain. I do recall having this same felling many, many years back after taking doxycycline antibiotics for a tick bite that caused Lyme disease, I treated it successfully by using H202 for several months followed by high strength probiotics for many weeks, I will follow Teds schedule and report back in a few months.
Also I see someone has commented upon the fact that anxiety etc. seems to make it feel worse, this is also the case for me at the moment, even though I am chilled, being tired or eating can niggle it, the discomfort is always reduced to nil each morning after awakening but gradually it returns as the day progresses, this is exactly how it felt many years back when I treated it as thrush/ candida.
My lessons here are twofold, 1) my new method for making strong and effective silver works like a charm! , 2) don't mess about with a healthy body! I hope this post can be helpful to some of you suffering with LPR or undiagnosed throat discomfort.
Replied By Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 12/08/2012
Replied By Cora (Providence, Ri) on 02/27/2013
I'm taking slippery elm, l-glutamine, zinc carnosine, marshamallow root, fresh aloe juice, fresh cabbage juice, and probiotics. Nothing has helped thus far.
You seem to have a great understanding of the body. Can you suggest anything else for me? Dietary and otherwise?
All the best.
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot Devon, Uk) on 03/13/2013
Sorry for the late reply but I only check on here every now and then!
I only ever use distilled water when making colloidal silver, I did try making it with tap water many years back and each batch would turn a grey or ugly looking brown colour, I also used to use a little salt and warm the water, but soon learned that this too would produce a murky coloured (impure) batch I soon determined that the impurities in the water and salt were causing this so moved over to using distilled water instead, for many years I carried on heating the water and have been happy with my slightly yellowish looking blend it has always worked as intended, With regards the air blower I had been browsing on line for some time and kept reading about better mixes occurring from agitated water, I determined a small fish tank air blower left bubbling into the mix would be ideal and cheap to try this method, I no longer heat the water and now run my little silver generator for around 60 -75 mins (instead of 30 -40 mins without the blower) previously the mix would have turned yellow the longer it was left forming, obviously due to larger silver particles forming and scattering light through the mix, but now with the blower bubbling in the water it stays 100% clear and can be left running for longer, when I analysed the final mix I determined that the blower was keeping the silver particles from globing together and thereby producing a much smaller particle and a more powerful mix I now believe my brew to be as good as if not better than most expensive commercial products and for this reason I now use it in far less quantities, Incidentally this information and the basic instructions are now available on line if you decided to search for more information on how to put it all together, Hopefully this will help you
To Cora from Providence
I no longer suffer with LPR or any of the related issues linked to it, I personally would never take a PPI or NSAID unless it was a life of death situation, they are not the answer to good health in my opinion, certainly not long term, I believe your symptoms will fade away over time, as I mentioned in my original post the NSAIDS really do mess the body up and this takes time to repair, I do not eat anything processed or non-organic ever and this probably helps speed up healing (along with my protocol above) I also think a couple of spoonful's of organic honey daily can help reduce the symptoms, this issue caused from NSAID damage does take a little time to fix but just like a broken bone, week by week the body will repair the damage done and get you back where you should be, patience is essential, if you had a broken arm you would relax and not fret over it whilst healing for 6 weeks or so, learn to relax, maybe obtain a hypnotherapist relaxation CD this will probably help you far more than the drugs you are using, focus on other non-related issues rather than fret and worry about the LPR etc. , the more we fret and worry about these ailments the more anxious we become and anxiety definitely slows or prevents our healing, think about those who suffer from IBS and other similar digestive track issues, these are often caused by nothing more than anxiety, just relax and be patient and your symptoms will no doubt slowly fade away as the body repairs the damage done. Good luck
Replied By Cora (Providence, Ri) on 03/20/2013
I did stop the PPIs about 3 weeks ago. It helped a lot with the indigestion, but I'm still experiencing heartburn and occasional bitter taste. I never had reflux symptoms other than the taste before starting the meds.
I did have an endoscopy done. It showed mild gastritis, that is healing. My esophagus is fine. Now I think stress is my biggest issue, and maybe low stomach acid. ??
Did you ever supplement with HCl or ACV? I'm leary because of irritated tissue, but I wonder if it could help. I'm currently taking DGL, Slippery Elm, Marshmallow, and Manuka honey 3X/day.
I think there's progress, but it is slow. I just started a gluten-free, dairy-free diet this week, but I don't think gluten is an issue for me. Do you abstain from gluten?
I find it difficult to figure out what to eat to satisfy the sort-of burning hunger I get throughout the day. Bread and oatmeal always seem to make me feel better. Meat and fats are the worst offenders right now. This is tough, because I'm used to a low-carb lifestyle.
I actually think the liver and gallbladder are involved now, especially gallbladder. Over the past 3 weeks, I've developed pain between my shoulder blades. It improves with magnesium oil and massage, but acts up when I eat something with high fat or meat.
You mentioned doing a liver cleanse. I don't want to do anything too harsh, but need to do something. Do you have suggestions? Sorry to keep asking so much of you, but you seem very knowledgeable. Lastly, did you find the colloidal silver to be neccesary for healing this issue?
Thanks so very much!
Replied By John (Rolling Meadows, Il, Usa) on 04/01/2013
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot, Devon) on 04/09/2013
My remedy was mostly based around my diet which if you have read all my posts you will notice how much I mention this, I cannot stress how important it is to fix your diet to heal properly, sure we can all get by on a substandard diet but healing requires more than this.
To be completely honest I only really suffered with this ailment for a short period and for the reasons already stated, I hardly remember the episode to date, but I will try to explain what I did to remedy my LPR
- I always eat a huge amount of fresh enzyme and nutrient rich food daily but whilst treating the LPR I increased this even more, everything I ate/ eat is organic.
- I upped my intake of Kiwi fruit to around 6 -8 daily I eat the skin as well, this is very rich in nutrients, just trim each end and eat them!
- Papaya fruit, around ½ -1 whole prepared fruit daily
- Pineapple 1/4 -1/2 daily
- The 3 fruits above are all a very rich natural sources of enzymes used daily by our bodies, essential for good health. I only ate fruit/veg for my source of enzymes, no capsules were taken
- Other raw fruit and veg by the bucket load, literally! Apples, pears, blackberries, strawberries, oranges, peaches, etc. , if it grew like it I ate it
- Veg, some raw some cooked, cabbage carrots, potatoes, kale, parsnips etc. , if it grew like it I ate it.
- Salads, celery, tomatoes, cucumber etc. , as long as it grew like it I ate it
- Also plenty of essential oils daily, Hemp oil, flaxseed oil, olive oil etc. Along with lots of oily fish
- I also took high strength probiotics, 50 million per capsule 8 -10 caps per day. (search on line)
Please remember, I do not, have not, did not and will never consume anything man made, my lifelong philosophy is that if was made in a plant leave it alone, if it grew on a plant eat it, simple really, so - I do not drink- fizzy pop s?*T, alcohol (processed sugar cr*&p), candy bars, biscuits, cheaply made crappy cereal bars etc. Etc. , I think you get the point! , I rarely eat bread , oats pasta etc. , but as my wife loves baking I do occasionally- just to show her how much I appreciate her efforts have to indulge in a homemade perfectly sourced ingredients, slice of bread or spicy bun (but I only eat these on a predetermined higher carb day) I would never eat a shop bought loaf of bread.
The only things I added to my diet as detailed in my original post were, slippery elm, liquorice and the honey this is all it took to repair my damage. But as I keep saying my diet was probably responsible for most of my healing, you only have to look at it to realise just how much good stuff is in there.
Fix your diets, maintain this for a minimum of 6 months (or for life ideally) and you should expect your symptoms to fade away
Mark.
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot, Devon) on 04/09/2013
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot ) on 08/14/2013
EC: Check out the 4th thread here. Robert is responding to a post from FT of Ridgewood, NJ.
Replied By Usagirl (Los Angeles) on 08/28/2013
Reading your post gave me hope. Thank you soo much for sharing, you have no idea.
How many months did you take the DGL Liquorice for? Also the slippery elm? 1-2 months? Anylonger wouldnt that be a lil too much.
Also im eating lots of homemade yogurt and want to try kefir milk in smoothie for the good bacteria. Or am I just irratating my throat. Did you have diary?
Im taking probiotics and heard should take for 2 weeks, But you took it longer? Is it safe. How many months you recommend?
You eat pineapple and kiwi, isn't that acidic. Did you follow the alkaline diet. Its really frustrating me. Is it necessary?
How many months it took for you to 100% lose all this annoying nightmare throat and espohagis symtoms to go away and eat freely what you want without any problems or anxiety??
Replied By Timh (Ky, Usa) on 08/29/2013
Replied By Debbie (Australia ) on 08/29/2013
Pasteurized milk because it has been heated does not contain the minerals we need. Then calcium is added in but it is inorganic so your body cannot use it. That is why people are getting osteoporosis (lack of calcium) even though they drink milk.
I too thought like you that zinc (or any minerals) in any form would be good but there is a difference between organic (from plants) and inorganic (non organic). Non organic means that it has been heated so that the body cannot assimilate it or that it is basically dead and also the body cannot assimilate it.
Minerals are better taken in the natural form also because they are in the correct ratios. On the mineral wheel if you look at it, too much of one mineral will deplete the body of other minerals. I can't refer you to any websites unfortunately but if you search yourself (even youtube) there is a lot of information about herbs.
Replied By Timh (Ky, Usa) on 08/30/2013
Replied By Mark (Newton Abbot Uk) on 08/30/2013
If you had surgery on your throat then naturally things will take a while to settle down again, just try to stick to a sensible and healthy clean diet that will assist the body in healing, this is going to take a little while
If you had surgery elsewhere (not on your throat) and the drugs and antibiotics were used because if this then it seems clear that your natural flora in both your gut and in your oesophagus has been disturbed if this is the case this need re-establishing in order to stop the candida or thrush that appears to have proliferated in your throat area, this has happened to me before, it took me quite some time to learn exactly what the cause was, the pain was very extreme after a long course of antibiotcs for lyme disease, my remedy was to use an oxygen based product based around H202, the one I like is mentioned elsewhere on this site (under candida I believe) and is produced by a company called Phoenix Nutritionals ltd ( or ‘'bird rising from the ashes + nutritionals'' if EC delete the name! ) it needs to be taken for around 8 -12 weeks with breaks for intense probiotic rebuilding to achieve the desired results, my advice would be to contact the company, Dr whiting- from memory, and explain your circumstances for a better assessment of your condition.
In the meantime try to learn to relax and focus your attention on other aspects of your life safe in the knowledge that this is just a small problem and a blip in your health situation, it will get better, just relax best you can, check out some relaxation video on you tube and start to reduce your anxiety, this will be a very big help in many ways.
God bless you get well swiftly
Replied By Lynn (Cary, Nc) on 07/02/2014
Thanks, Lynn
Replied By Anupa (London) on 12/17/2015
The whole thread has been very informative. Thanks. But a bit confusing cause we talking about many diseases besides reflux. I have a lot of throat mucus (too much) . I believe that I need friendly bacteria which are all destroyed whilst on antibiotics ( 3 courses after an operation) please correct me if I am wrong So basically I should be having?
1) lots enzyme contain fruits. 2) probiotics . 3) honey. 4) fresh vegetables. Avoid all artificial foods. Shelf cooked foods.
Should I stop having milk ? which is also described by many as bad for mucus. And what else would you suggest ? And what about carbohydrates and protein which is necessary for the body. I am quite a vegetarian. And sometimes eat chicken and fish but have gone off realising that all our meat comes from China. And we don't know how it's produced. What do u suggest?
God bless you!!! You are better than any doctor. Regards Anupa.
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