Natural Remedies

Borax Cures and Health Benefits

Scalp Infections
Posted by Elaine (Edmond, Oklahoma, Usa) on 05/22/2010

Hi, Ted

Tonight I was in the super market and found Boraxo powdered hand soap. It says on the back. Boraxo Powdered Hand Soap is a unique blend of borax and powdered soap. The borax holds the lossened soil in suspension until it is rinsed away. This is a 20 Mule Team product. There is a number to call on the label if anyone would like to know if they can find it in there area or maybe able to order it. 1-800-457-8739. I bought a 12 oz canister for $1.77. I beleive I will start using on my scalp as I have bumps there. I will let you know how it works.

Scalp Infections
Posted by Elaine (Edmond, Oklahoma, Usa ) on 06/10/2010
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So far so good. I noticed that if I stop using it the bumps come back. I feel it is something that must be used for several weeks. Also, I must use another shampoo on occassion as my hair seems to get a build up. Also use a good conditioner.

Demodex Mites
Posted by Sayno2gmo (Vancouver, Bc, Canada) on 10/14/2011

Any updates? Did you completely rid yourself of the mites?

Lichen Planus
Posted by Shahnaz (London, United Kingdom) on 05/16/2010
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Hi Ted, I have SLE/Sjogren's syndrome since 18 years, and for the past few years had a rash on my right leg shin and gradually its spread on my other leg, over my body. the rash is called lichen planus. as the itch is driving me mad, im up to try anything to relieve me as it is getting worse, the medicines are not helping so i stopped everything. currently detoxing, having a complete vegetarian diet, juicing and started to drink the soda bicarbonate. I have washed my infected wounds with borax, it helps drying but makes it very itchy. could you recommend anything for this skin condition please. Much obliged, shahnaz

EC: Hi Shahnaz,

The Q&A page on the Lichen Planus section has one answer from Ted:

Lichen Planus
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 05/20/2010 383 posts

Borax helps drying, however, to stop the itch, a tannic acid solution may be needed. A weak one for topical application is 1/2 teaspoon of tannic acid per 1/2 cup of water. It is then applied and the itching should stop within about 2 minutes. To remove the drying after the itch goes away, a couple of more applications maybe needed, then apply moisturizing oil. The oil I use is grape oil mixed with some aloe vera oil, or any appropriate moisturizing skin care oil might be helpful.

The only problem is in some countries, such as Canada, tannic acid is not obtainable. An appropriate substitute such as tea tree oil, lavender oil and some sunflower oil in equal amounts might help. If tannic acid is taken internally a very low dose such as 1/4 per liter of drinking water is free of side effect and further help the SLE conditions also by denaturing them and prevent their spread. I am now currently using borax/tannic acid/ and H2O2 for similar symptoms, and baking soda as in 1/2 teaspoon twice a day in a cup of water will further reduce the symptoms.

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Posted by Light9 (Sleepy Hollow, Ny) on 04/27/2010

Can i use borax to heal my ear infections since its safe for the eyes?

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Posted by Wendyacox (Adelaide, Australia) on 04/05/2010

I note that 1/8 teaspoon of borax in a litre of water is recommended as a detox for the relief of pain in many ailments. Borax is considered a poison, so how can this recommended remedy not affect the kidneys and liver if used over a long period of time?

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Posted by Wendyacox (Adelaide, Australia) on 04/05/2010

I note that 1/8 teaspoon of borax in a litre of water is recommended as a detox for the relief of pain in many ailments. Borax is considered a poison, so how can this recommended remedy not affect the kidneys and liver if used over a long period of time?

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Posted by Rob (Manhattan, New York) on 03/26/2010

1/4 tsp per litre and a whole glass is most likely too much. Try 1/8 and little sips throughout the day. When experimenting with this I found strong effects at this amount (1/8tsp per liter) and would only consume about half the bottle in a day. Also, why are you taking it? If to get pregnant there are most likely other safer and time proven ways.

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Posted by Arn (Seattle, Wa.) on 03/11/2010

Please don't go overboard in your reactions to using borax.

On one hand, it is not the toxic insecticide some imagine. The mechanism by which it kills bugs is by contact. They get a particle of borax on them, it burns a hole in the wax coating on their shells, they dehydrate. That's not going to happen to humans.

On the other hand, it is a micro nutrient, meaning your body doesn't need and can't use much. Big doses over a long period aren't a good idea. In concentration it kills pretty much every bacteria, virus and fungus which is handy for a lot of uses but not for your body. I wonder what it does to the friendly flora in your gut.

By the way, try putting a teaspoon each of sugar and borax in your Christmas tree water next year. It will stay green into spring.

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Posted by Blanche (New Iberia, La) on 03/11/2010

I think you may be confusing borax with boric acid powder, which IS used to kill insects by contact.

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Posted by Mama (London, Ontario) on 03/10/2010

This is to the_phoenix:

Thank you so much for responding to my concerns. It made me cry reading your response (but in a good way). I am going to follow your very sound advice and not try too many things at once. Maybe just one at a time. And I will study up on the things you suggested, because they sound like they might be of help.

My children are growing way too fast and I'm afraid that when I'm finally better and able to get down on the floor and play with them, and run around outside with them; that I'll look to find them all grown up - and I missed it!
I want so bad to have the energy that I need. They drug me out of the house for the first time this winter, and I climbed up the tiny little snow hill that they had made - put myself in the sled and slid down the tiny drop. They wanted me to go down again but with all of us on it; but I had just used up all the energy I had and laid in the snow for 20 minutes trying to get enough energy to go back to the house.

They looked so sad! I let them down again and it hurts a lot to see them disappointed. They know that Mommy doesn't feel well and they know that if I could - I would, but they just deserve more then I can give them.

I sooo wish that once I'm better that I could go back and be the Mother I set out to be, when we decided to have children. I had it all planned out, there was nothing I wanted more - I could see it in my mind... many trips to the beach, to the parks, to the zoos, baking cakes and cookies, playing all day outside in the sun, all that fun stuff; but since my first child was born; it still hasn't happened.

Finding earth clinic has made me feel not so alone in this, and I'm reading about new things I haven't tried. (really I haven't tried much, I've spent the last 10 years trying to cure the rest of my family of their issues). But you are right... It's time I look after me, because they need me to be healthy and I need me to be. I know that I can do this... I just have to.

Thanks again for your input,

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 03/11/2010

Hi Mama, I was very touched by what you wrote. I relate to it very much as I have had a rough last 4 years with my physical issues which seemed to hit me overnight. It has been quite a process but I just want to encourage you to not give up! There have been moments when I felt so discouraged but then, something would rise up from inside of me and fight! Then again, I've always been that way. I too have 2 young children and know how you can feel that you are disappointing them. I have 3 much older ones who I had when I was younger and I could ride bikes with them, have races, hike, rollerblade etc. but can't do that with these two who are 13 and my daughter who turned 11 the other day. Still, they are so patient with me and understanding. My son carries my bags for me all the time without prompting so imagine the lessons he is learning for some young woman some day!

Anyway, I have had major breakthroughs since last Oct with juicing and raw foods. All the excruciating pain is gone! I still have hip issues but I feel rejuvenated in my resolve that one day that will be gone too. I have a ballet studio that I teach at everyday but I can no longer demonstrate the steps. My kids are well-trained so they can learn the steps with me talking them through and they take turns showing the steps as I talk them through so it's an opportunity for them to really grow and what a lesson for me to let go!

I don't know if you have read any of my posts and I hesitate to reiterate as I'm sure many readers might think it's quite redundant. Still, I would highly recommend that you listen to Dr. Brian Clement on youtube who is so very inspiring. I have been in contact with two women that I have met from this site that we now correspond and both of them could not believe how his information has impacted them. He has literally helped thousands to overcome debilitating illnesses through changing their eating habits/lifestyles. I no longer NEED naps in the afternoon before I return to the studio, I can walk distances again and I am out of constant pain. I attribute it to the green juices I drink every morning now and eating a lot of raw veggies and adding in lots of sprouts and now sea veggies.

Please take care of yourself. Remember, you are the hub of the wheel. Love yourself enough to do that and remember, the more we love, the more love we have to give. And you are not alone. I'm glad you were encouraged by this site.

BTW, sisters out there, there is a fantastic program going on right now to empower women sexually, spiritually, physically and emotionally. Some of the top people in human potential are speakers in it. It is only running for two weeks and is completely free. It only started yesterday but go immediately and check it out as each speaker is only posted for a number of hours and each speaker speaks for an hour! It is at for those interested. Enjoy!

To your health!

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Posted by Mama (London, Ontario) on 03/12/2010

To Lisa from Thousand Oaks: Thankyou so much for all of your encouragement. I will look at those you tube videos that you recommended. I am starting to feel somewhat better already. The peroxide therapy and the Borax are really working. The non processed food diet and allergen avoidance is a real help too. I test everything with Kinisiology first to see if my body likes it. My husband and I have become quite good at it and it never fails to be accurate. My energy has gone up quite a bit.

Thanks again,
Mama :)

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Posted by Mama (London, Ontario) on 03/12/2010

To The_Phoenix: I did register, I'm not sure if it worked or not, I didn't receive any confirmation from EC. I don't really know how to follow threads - I'm very new at this site. I would love to hear of any more help though. And guess what... I decided to do just the Borax and H2O2 and I'm starting to feel better! I have more energy and actually made it upstairs for the first time all winter! I even cleaned the living room. Do you think it would be too much if I start Oil Pulling? I hear so many good reports about it. Or should I just stick with what I'm doing for now? I also forgot to tell you that I am avoiding all processed foods and basically eating just rice, beans, potatoes, raw and cooked fresh veggies, raw juices, molasses and raw honey. I'll add more later but for now, these are the only things that don't make me flare up really bad. Oh, and raw bee pollen. (apparently you can live on that stuff!)

Thanks again for all your help,
Mama :)

Diagnosing Mites
Posted by Dj (Mv, Mo) on 01/19/2010

For Nettie from Banning... I can not use creams or oils on my skin. My mom gave me a glycerin-based product with "fermented" copper and other minerals in it. She got it from a TV shopping channel. Worked absolute wonders! Hope this helps.

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 01/19/2010 383 posts

I don't know exactly for demodex mites but a Morgellon's (which is quite close) do survive in them, at least one that I know that happened in Hawaii, as the guy who makes the cream had Morgellon's disease, so that's how the buyer got it. While there's no demdodex mites, the Morgellon's certainly spew out tiny bugs out of her skin, almost like a demodex mites. It's best to make the creams or remedies yourself. Certain things used in creams and lotions do die, such as lemon oil, orange oil, or even tea tree for example, but that depends on how much those were used to have some killing effect.

Another common method of getting mites is from used furniture or clothes from strangers, family or friends who had demodex mites.

Posted by Pluto (New York, Ny, Usa) on 06/02/2011

Nettie, I also use borax on my face. After a layer or two of borax (mixed with HP and TTO) is dry I put on a generous amount of Sea Buckthorn Oil. I get a bit orange, but that's not the end of the treatment. After that I put on 20% zinc cream from the drugstore (baby section), which is white. I just do a thin layer, but it cuts the orange and I look pretty much normal, and the zinc is a sunscreen. After that I dust with face powder if I feel it is needed. Sea Buckthorn Oil is labeled as being good for rosacea.

Posted by Suzie (Kentucky) on 11/02/2020

Use real aloe vera to moisturize.

Posted by jennifer (BC) on 10/03/2022

They can live in makeup, creams mascaras ect. Try a benzoyl peroxide treatment 2.5 or 5 percent or another acne treatment it will provide some moisture without feeding them

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Posted by Mrs. Willis (Las Vegas, Nv, Usa) on 01/17/2010

Diabetes, Kidneys, and Borax

Hi, I registered on the earthclinic site, haven't figured out how or where post new questions, thus the reason for this email. I have recently read a pdf from the borax company which concerns me - I will keep this short - I have diabetes - So I am worried about using borax. Will borax cause kidney damage in someone who may have diminshed kidney function? - but then I am only going on what I read in the pdf. Also I am morbidly obese [315]

here is the quote from the pdf:

'Note to physicians: Observation only is required for adult ingestion in the range of 4-8 grams of Borax. For ingestion of larger amounts, maintain adequate kidney function and force fluids. Gastric lavage is recommended for symptomatic patients only. Hemodialysis should be reserved for massive acute ingestion or patients with renal failure. Boron analyses of urine or blood are only useful for documenting exposure and should not be used to evaluate severity of poisoning or to guide treatment.'

I really want to beat this thing. I was diagnosed 2 years ago - I gave up sugar,pasta, white bread,msg,junk food etc - Trying to learn to love exercise! I wont use sugar substitutes - I take NO medications whatsoever! I want to be healthy, for years I did not, I just didn't care.

Please advise. Thank you, Lana

EC: Hi, you are indeed posting in the correct place. Just use the "Give Feedback" link at the top of any page to submit questions or feedback. We'll do the rest!

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Posted by Dee (Hill Country, Tx) on 11/24/2010

One teaspoon of granulated white sugar is equal to about 4.2 grams. Borax is probably similar enough to sugar to compare, so one teaspoon is 8 times the recommended 1/8 teaspoon. Plus, in this information nothing was said about the period of time over which the borax is taken. Always follow protocols as given. Do not think you are smarter with a better way. Think things through; avoid impetuosity; address all aspects of your life (sleep, love, exercise, diet, work, giving burdens and grudges to God... ).

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Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, GA) on 01/19/2010

I did an experiment Saturday and added 1/8th teaspoon of borax to 1 liter of tap water filtered with a relatively new Brita filter (instead of steam distilled water, which I have been using since last week). I drank the entire liter during the course of the day and by nightfall, all of my joints ached like crazy and I had some brain fog. Same symptoms as when you are getting the flu. Awful!! Sunday I took the day off from the borax remedy, drank a ton of water, and my aching joints and brain fog gradually went away... I'd say it took about 24 hours for the symptoms to pass. Yesterday and today I have resumed the borax remedy but am using the steam distilled water that I bought at the grocery store. I feel fine, no side effects. So I think the kind of water used does make a difference. I would be curious to hear from other people doing the borax remedy (especially those experiencing side effects) what type of water they are using.

I might also add that on Saturday I tried DMSO for the first time (will submit separate feedback on that), but I don't think it had much to do with the side effects I was experiencing. Thought I'd mention it nonetheless.

Multiple Cures
Posted by Peter (Chicago, Il) on 01/21/2010

Deirdre, What brand of Borax did you use ? Thanks !

Multiple Cures
Posted by Lily (Brisbane, Australia) on 01/21/2010

to Deirdre about the borax and filtered water. I also did the borax 1/8th teaspoon in I litre of (tap) water and the first two days I had brain fog and a strange slight pain in my kidneys. I stopped using it and the next week I tried it again with no side affects and no change of water type. I think it is just the initial few days that give some people grief. I went back to it because of the lovely sleepy feeling it gave me at night and it helped to cure my insomnia.

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Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, Ga) on 02/11/2010

I have only done the borax remedy about 8 times since I wrote my first feedback on the subject. Since I plan on doing this for quite some time, I am not especially in a hurry. I haven't done the remedy in over a week. I follow a fairly intuitive process regarding the remedy each morning... to do or not to do! Nay is the response as of late. I had flu symptoms appear 2 of the 8 times and I think it may have been because I drank a large amount of water (after I got home from training), rather than sipping the liter of water throughout the day which Ted recommends. As I mentioned in post #2, I got severe aching in the joints. Another time I suddenly got an intense pressure on my crown, just above my forehead, which felt rather like the beginnings of a fever. I clobbered the side effects (or an actual flu, I will never know for sure) with the hydrogen peroxide inhalation method and 1 adult dose of aspirin right before bed. When I woke up the next morning, no symptoms.

Two people have emailed me about the kind of borax I am using -- it's 20 Mule Team.

Final note: I have lowered my borax dosage to 1/16 teaspoon to 1 liter of steam distilled water.

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Posted by Rob (Manhattan, New York) on 02/12/2010

In my 1st trial of the Borax remedy, I used 1/4 tsp to a liter of bottled water (reverse osmosis) I only took what would amount to about 4 ounces in the evening. (a few sips) As stated the effect was rather positive.

I had experienced a clarity of sleep & dreaming that I rarely experience. Reminded me of when I was young. However continuing the next day...with only about 6 to 8 ounces more I did not experience the same effect the 2nd night..I had some tenderness in my back but could attribute it to my anxiety over ingesting this from what others have reported. I decided to try the supplement, Boron, instead to see if it had the same effects, which it did not. (dosage on label) I perceived no effect from it. Since then I have tried Borax once more (1/8 tsp to a liter) a few sips before bed. & what I experienced was an elevation of body temperature (slight night sweating) and increased dream recall though not as pronounced as my 1st trial... In summary, I like the effects of this remedy though cannot confirm that it doesn't cause any harm. (I would imagine most Doctors reading this thinking we are crazy for ingesting this stuff) Still, considering that it is no more toxic than table salt, (wiki) I will continue with occasional trials & run it by my Dr. If he gives me a firm no... I will stop.

Hair and Scalp
Posted by Ratgirldjh (Austin, Texas, Usa) on 01/10/2010

UPDATE: i have been using borax for several weeks once a week to wash my hair with an ACV rinse and i started getting build up on my hair and scalp.

so i went and got the citric acid of which 1/4 tsp. in a pint of water is recommended to rinse borax away since supposedly vinegar and lime or lemon juice is not strong enough to remove the borax.

after i washed again and used the recommended 1/4 tsp. citric acid in a pint of water and then rinsed again my hair was VERY slimy feeling. and then it took over 5 hours to dry.

the next day it felt limp and coated.

finally i washed again and did a stronger citric acid rinse and had the same problem - slimy, coated hair that refused to dry :(

eventually i clarified my hair using clay and i am now afraid to use the borax because it obviously was building up on my hair.

so if you use this method keep an eye out for the borax building up on your hair. in my hair this was evident by it becoming limper and limper and less shiny and feeling very soft and smoother than usual (at first a good thing LOL) and feeling like i had coated it in fabric softener.

then i had little white hard things coming out of my scalp as well as a weird waxy coating on my brush bristles when i would brush.

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Posted by Phil (Dearing, Ga) on 11/03/2009

Hello Ted. It is great to see you back and posting here on EC!

I didn't know if I should e-mail you directly, since I had read on here that you were recieving alot of spam and was not opening some of your mail. ( So correct me if I am wrong and I will send to you.)

I do alot of reading about natural cures and alternative medicines, on alot of different websites...I did your borax 1/4 teaspoon in liter of water 5 days on 2 days off for six weeks for a terrible rash I had on my arms and it did seem to work very well for a while, but the rash does still occasionally flare up. When I drank the borax I noticed no bad side effects that some people report... The only thing that I noticed was a darker color stools ( Bowel Movement ) and NOT hard, but dryer and very dark. And it starts after the first day of drinking the borax water, a few days off stool goes back to normal medium brown color.

So my first question is why the dark stools?

Also viewing serveral other websites, such as,( Who for the the most part agrees and reports almost everthing that you report )

They have a VERY DIFFERENT view on BORAX and SOY. Both of which they say are POISIONS and NOT to put in or on your body... I am not very good with computers and do not know how to post the source here, but if you visit thier website and in their search box, type in borax, these articles will come up that really condemn the use of borax, even calling it a poison in the HPV vaccine and soy they say is a poison also.

So my second question why do they disagree with you on these issues, when they agree with you on so many other things???

Also, they promote BORON as being great...So can we use BORON suppliments and get the same results as we do with Borax? ( as in anti fungal and nano- bacteria )

And my last question. I would ask you a million if I could! LOL! But I know you are a very busy man. I find it very fasinating, how much knowledge you have on all subjects and I do know you have a chemistry background...

What would be the best approach for me to become a healer using alternative medicines? Is there certain studies I should take or certain schools you would recommend? I mainly want to heal myself, but I do know, I would probably need a licsense if I where to ever open a practice or store.

I know that there are tons of natural healers out there and alot of them do totally opposites of what others do. Is one method better than the other and if so what is the very best one?

Sincerly I THANK YOU, for all that you do!


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Posted by Phil (Dearing, Ga) on 03/14/2010

Hello Ted and others. Since this last post I found an article on that SUPPORTS the use of 20 Mule team borax as a detox for floride. It gives the same directions that Ted gives here.

Here is the link and it is under boron on this page. When I typed this in it said link broken and did I mean and I clicked on that and the page came up...So I hope this works for you all.

I have found very little on borax other than here on Earth Clinic...

We explore and find more info everyday.

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Posted by Rena (Mineral Bluff, Georgia, Usa) on 03/14/2010

Hi Phil from Dearing Ga. If you look down at the sources you will see Earth Clinic's name as the source. I've notice this a lot on Natural News, seems they quote Ted frequently.

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Posted by Joe (West Palm Beach, Fl) on 10/29/2009

Is Borax 1/4 tsp with 1 Liter of tap water just as effective than using distilled or filtered water ? Also, with 1 ltr container using 1/4 tsp borax, can the acv and sea salt be added and if so how much much in the 1liter water?

Posted by Chocolit21 (Memphis, Tn) on 10/13/2009


For the past five years I have had this itchy rash/urticaria/hives that break out all over my body.I get pains in joints and swelling in my extremities.No known diagnosis and have been tested and treated with everything under the sun and nothing has worked. I beleiev I have some type of fungal or candida problem because I was taking 1 diflucan a day 200mg and 2 fiberchoice tablets and 1 culturelle probiotic pill daily for a month or so. It cleared for many months and came back after I got extremely stress form the death of a family member. I had a recent CT scan for possible pneumonia and found out I didn't have it but evidence of Granulomatous disease. I think this may be my problem.I want to try the Borax remedy.What do you think?

Posted by Dave (San Francisco, California) on 07/01/2013

Hey you're so right, as a mechanic I was hurt by the same fungus-tinia manus, got it from fungus that grows in oil or diesel, borax rids the problem and also a mold antibiotic-griseofulvin or fulvicin also will eat the fungus for 90 days, that took care of my problem, so was wondering what other common ailments are easily cured that you know of, thanks, dave s

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Posted by Gary (New York City, New York) on 08/10/2009

I am VERY confused. Does anyone have a website in the states that I can buy the Borax that I can drink. I keep reading aritcle after article that contradicts the previous one or uses different names for what I think might also be Borax. Anyone that uses Borax should consistently stick with that word so know one becomes as confused as I am. I want to try this so badly but am not sure which to get OR where to buy it. I understand that I use 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon of Borax in 1 liter of warm water. I want the water warm so it disolves the Borax so it won't cause pain in the Kidneys. BUT where do I find the type of Boras that can be INGESTED and is it the SAME one that I would shampoo with and use instead of soap. Some one please help by posting AND emailing me this information. Thx

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Posted by Rena (Mineral Bluff, Georgia) on 08/11/2009

Hi Gary from New York City, You are correct, it is the 20 Mule Team you find in the Laundry Isle that is most popular on the Borax thread. I have been using it as a shampoo and body wash, and love it. However, my daughter that has thick straight hair said it dries her hair out. Mine on the other hand is naturally curly and seems to be doing just fine.

I have several times put a few pinches of the borax in my drinking water maybe a couple of times a month (when I have drunken fluoridated water) to flush out the fluoride. If you were ever to see my teeth, you would understand why I am so anti-fluoride. I have been doing this for over a year, and had no negative effects. I still don't even need any deodorant and its hot out side in this Georgia summer. I do perspire a good deal, but there is no odor, and you want to perspire to flush out toxins.

I use a 32 ounce container and put about 1/4 cup borax and fill the rest of the container with hot water and shake. This amount last me at least 2 weeks maybe longer. Peace, Rena.

Posted by jetstream (Norwich, UK) on 07/13/2009
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Worked Temporarily

Re: the borax page. Could you update with information on the time period involved? ie how long is it safe or recommended to take the borax & h202 in water cure?

I have a sore recurring (monthly) rash on my abs and neck. When taking the borax and h202 remedy for about 6 weeks, the rash was rapidly reducing over a few months in total, to the point of thinking that it had gone. But then it came back with full force. I'll try again, but how long is safe?

With thanks.

Posted by Tommy (Los Angeles) on 08/11/2022

Can you specify exactly how you use the borax to wash scalp and body? Others have mentioned just taking a palm full and scrubbing? Is that what you did?

Posted by Sherill (Tampa, FL) on 06/11/2009

In regards to facial demodex mites: I would like to know if the borax/hydrogen peroxide mixture is to be left on the face overnight and for how many days should I continue the internal and external applications? Also how often for maintenance?

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Posted by Robin (Corvallis, Oregon) on 06/10/2009

Can you tell me the difference between Diatomaceous Earth- Food Grade, and Borax? Do they both kill one cell creatures? Does one or the other carry more oxygen? I have heard of people using DE for Morgellons too. Can you use Borax in the garden like DE?

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Posted by Aria926 (Port Huron, Mi) on 01/11/2011

In response to using diatomaceous earth in lieu of boron, I really don't think the two are even close to the same thing. DE is simply the fossilized remains of diatoms, which are a type of algae with hard silica shells; therefore, DE is mostly silica. I believe there is a bit of iron and aluminum also but I'm not positive.

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Posted by Bob (Memphis, TN) on 06/08/2009

Borax Mixture and Dosage: I've read quite a bit over the weekend about borax. I ordered some of the 20 Mule Team on line because I have never seen it here in our stores. It sounds like it is good for osteoarthritis and depression so, I would like to try it. I am a little confused about how to mix it and the suggested daily dosage. I believe most people are saying 1/8 teaspoon in 1 liter of water. Then, I take it you ingest this but I haven't been able to find how much and how many times per day. Please help. Thanks.

Posted by Justin (Tokyo, Japan) on 05/05/2010

I am really eager to buy some borax for a fluoride detox. I live in Tokyo, Japan and I really cant find the borax that everyone is taking for detox. As far as I know it is the "20 Mule Team Borax" (safe to ingest, right?) but I just can't find it anywhere. I can order from the US but it is going to be really expensive. Can anyone help me please? I am desperate.

Posted by Bunkyo (Tokyo, Japan) on 05/05/2010

Borax in Japanese is called hosha. (Many Japanese don't know how to read the character for this, but it's HO-U in katakana and sha is the kanji for sand (suna). The cost at Amazon is 924 yen for 500 grams. can go to and order 1 kg for 609 yen. It seems to be the same thing, and you can use it for washing clothes, washing your hair, etc. But for consumption, probably the type from Amazon would be better. Good luck!

EC: Sorry, our database doesn't currently accept Japanese characters! Will see if we can in the future.

Posted by Tom (Louisiana) on 05/18/2015

My wife has a very bad reaction to an antibiotic and has broken out in a rash that looks as if she has be scalded. Will a borax treatment in her bath help to cure it and stop the itching?

Posted by Om (Hope, Bc Canada) on 05/19/2015

To Tom (Louisiana) ---

Sorry to hear of your wife's skin problems. Most likely, it is the liver throwing the poisonous substances out through the skin.

Borax has a very drying after effect and is good for some skin ailments. But in this case I would make chamomile tea, soak cotton face cloths and cover the affected areas. You can also make enough for a bath. This extremely soothing and healing and can be repeated a few times.

After dabbing dry, apply coconut oil liberally where needed. Coconut oil is cooling and soothing, too. Meanwhile Milk Thistle internally three times a day to help clear the liver, and stay away from antibiotics. The word antibiotic means "anti life". It must be done with God's pharmacy.

Let us know how it goes. Namaste Om

Posted by Om (Hope, Bc Canada) on 05/19/2015

To Tom (Louisiana) ---

Sorry to hear of your wife's skin problems. Most likely, it is the liver throwing the poisonous substances out through the skin.

Borax has a very drying after effect and is good for some skin ailments. But in this case I would make chamomile tea, soak cotton face cloths and cover the affected areas. You can also make enough for a bath. This extremely soothing and healing and can be repeated a few times.

After dabbing dry, apply coconut oil liberally where needed. Coconut oil is cooling and soothing, too. Meanwhile Milk Thistle internally three times a day to help clear the liver, and stay away from antibiotics. The word antibiotic means "anti life". It must be done with God's pharmacy.

Let us know how it goes. Namaste Om

Posted by Gert (Al) on 05/19/2015

Could be stephens-johnson syndrome, look it up. I used calamine lotion for weeks after a reaction to antibiotics.

Posted by Sp (New Jersey) on 05/20/2015 32 posts

Hi Grace, I am curious, back in Nov. 2013, when you took the sulpha based antibiotic, did you also take any oral corticosteroids around the same time?

Posted by Grace (Wi) on 05/21/2015

Yes, on seeing 1st dermatologist, initially thought was a allergy gave me prednisone for what was thought to be a skin allergy. I was on that for 2 days, when my arm swelled up to size of thigh and was weeping a yellowish liquid, on third night went to ER, diagnosed w/cellulitis, given two antibiotics(MRSA fear) one was Sulph base antibiotic, by 3rd day on antibiotics went to see primary physician, immediatly diagnosed as drug reaction, severe, took me off all drugs including prednisone, was on prednisone for a total of 6 days.

Posted by Leonard (Wa.) on 05/21/2015

I had a very bad experience with 20 mule team Borax. I was taking it to chelate fluoride and other heavy metals out of my system. I got terrible peripheral neuropathy from Cipro. I got splotches on my forehead. Blurred vision, headaches, and terribly constipated and my BP went up likely from the stress of it all. When I went off everything it I got rid of it all. I was taking 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of water. I even dropped it to 1/8th of a teaspoon and still had problems. And I do take Lugols at 50 mgs/day. Has anyone tried Mesenchyne?

Posted by Nho (San Antonio, Tx) on 05/21/2015 4 posts

Cipro has fluoride. I just went through a bad episode since I have hypothyroid, I ended up with all thyroid symptoms worst, it has been two months and still having problems.

Posted by Bill (San Fernando) on 05/22/2015

Hi Nho...Fluoride will also deplete iodine in your thyroid so, as you say, you are probably hypothyroid as well. So if I were in your situation I would start taking the full Iodine Protocol(together with all advised minerals and vitamins) to immediately improve and normalize the thyroid. Supplementing the Iodine Protocol will also help to automatically remove any excess fluoride in your body(from the Cipro) in the same way as borax can. The borax protocol is shown here.

Posted by Jeri (Wv) on 10/30/2015

Is it possible the iodine could raise your blood pressure? I was using Ponaris nasal emollient on advice of my ENT and while it made breathing possible and reduced mucus production, it seemed to raise my blood pressure. Once off, no more problems. It does contain iodine. I suppose it depends on the condition of your thyroid (?)

Posted by Gail (Idaho) on 06/13/2016

Look up angioedema. It is a reaction to meds and it does indeed act like a burn.

Posted by Robert (Ca) on 06/13/2016

Please be careful with DMSO as it will carry anything it combines with into the blood stream. One drop on your finger & you will immediately taste it. Liquid potassium iodine at 2-drops is 100% RDA, please research effects, dosage, etc.

Be well.

Posted by Man (Sojouring America) on 03/18/2014

In response to 3/20/2009: Briana from Indianapolis, IN: I sure wish you would return to this post and put a follow up post here to let us know how you are doing now. And the result over time. I know from experience natural holistic things do not work over night. I dissolved a 1/8 of a teaspoon of Borax in warm water today, because I noticed that it does not dissolve very well in cold water.

Posted by Jeri (Wv) on 10/30/2015

In the event you return to this site, copious amounts of green tea consumption will also make you pee green. Personal experience.

Posted by Michele (Texas) on 12/01/2020

Look on about nebulizing colloidal silver. Works wonders for all lung problems

Posted by Jay (Atlanta ) on 06/19/2021 3 posts

Could you address what is oil pulling. Your narrative is very informative and encouraging. Thank you.

Posted by Kathy (Ontario) on 02/07/2017

How often can I put borax in my bath water?

Fluoride Poisoning
Posted by Chantiel (Us) on 01/10/2017

I have the same side effects. I found the tablets as opposed to the powder helpful, but only after at least a 7 day cleanse of the colon and iodine. I used a 7 day ultimate cleanse, which offers both. (Can't clean the deep parts without a clean pathway out, sort through of.) I actually did a 14 day cleanse with 2 days break in the middle. All cleansing will cause some discomfort at the beginning, however. Bless you, I hope this helps!