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Laser Therapy for Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis

Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 08/10/2016
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I was diagnosed with IPF 2 1/2 years ago. My very experienced pulmonologist said I would be lucky to make it 5 years. I am a chiropractor and the pulmonologist said it probably started from 40 yrs exposure to xray developing chemical. I'm not convinced of that, but I know I have IPF. I am in a unique position as that I utilize a Class IV laser in my office. I began using it on myself as soon as I was diagnosed. I returned to the pulmonologist a month ago after my third CT scan. There has been no additional fibrous tissue in the lungs in the 2 12 years since starting laser therapy, and my pulmonary function tests have actually improved each time, having had 3 total. My doctor said he has never seen this before in his entire career, where the IPF became static and function improved. I refused prednisone, Esbriet, etc. though I do use an inhaler on occasion.

The laser reduces inflammation with a photochemical process. When treating musculoskeletal problems it heals tissue faster and with less scar tissue. It could be that it is keeping more scarring from taking place, but it is not actually removing it. I still have a cough, but much less frequent and severe. I'm still working and playing hard though looking at retirement fairly soon. I'm 64. The dose with the laser I use is 10 watts, 4 minutes on the front of the chest and 4 on the back for a total of 4800 joules. I started with twice a week for the first month and then went to one treatment per week. I know this is working for me and I feel like I got my future back. If I don't get worse than I am, I can live very healthy for a very long time. My goal is 20 more years. If this post helps anyone else with this horrible disease I will be thrilled. It's wonderful to have hope. Dr Hall

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Replied by Janet from In on 08/12/2016

Thank you Dr. Hall... how exciting. I love this post. Great information. Janet
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Replied by Timh from Ky on 08/12/2016

With a number of cases of Pulmonary Fibrosis is the presence of mycoplasma infection, which has been my nemesis for many yrs. Just suggesting the possibility as mycoplasma prevents lung tissue regeneration. My theory is the cholesterol needed for repair is saturated or surrounded by the myco as it's a favorite fuel source. In your case, the laser may be killing mycoplasma. Certainly worth investigating.

I have recently had very good results killing the myco with first Magnet therapy, then Zapping, then Nebulized Colloidal Silver.

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Replied by Fred from Mauritius on 09/28/2016

Hi Andrew, thanks for the post. Am an oral surgeon and suffering IPF since 1 yr. ON what inhaler are you?. Im on Foracort200 2 puff bd.
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Replied by Stephanie from Northampton on 06/03/2017

Is the laser treatment still working for you? How would someone get access to such a laser and use it?
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Replied by Andrew Hall Dc from Sonora, Ca on 06/21/2017

I would like to update my progress. Since my post on 8/10/16, I have had two more pulmonary function tests that have again improved. No additional fibrous tissue on CT. A gentleman named Garry from Australia has tried laser therapy and his pulmonologist was also shocked to see his pulmonary function tests improve. Please consider this therapy if you suffer from IPF and let me know how you respond. I will be happy to help you find a doctor with an appropriate laser.

Dr Andy Hall

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Replied by Edward from Coventry, R.i. on 07/10/2017

Can this Laser be purchased? Can a novice to operate without danger?
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Replied by Dave from New Orleans on 09/22/2017

This is the first time I'm hearing of this Laser therapy, where can I have it done? I hope locally. I sure appreciate the information.

Thanks, Dave

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Replied by Andrew Hall Dc from Sonora, Ca on 12/24/2017

Fred, I am using a Symbicort inhaler.
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Replied by Andrew Hall Dc from Sonora, Ca on 12/24/2017

Hi Edward. A Class 4 laser cannot be purchased by non doctors. You could get a Class 3 but won't penetrate deep enough into the lungs.
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Replied by Andrew Hall Dc from Sonora, Ca on 12/24/2017

HI Stephanie,

yes the laser is still working for me. Just had another pulmonary function test and it had improved yet again! I'm thrilled with my progress.

Dr Andy Hall

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Replied by Andrew Hall Dc from Sonora, Ca on 12/24/2017

Many chiropractors have Class 4 lasers. You could do a local search by going to either Litecure's website or Klaser's. Try litecure.com or Klaserusa.com and find the doctor locator search that they both have
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Replied by Barb from Maple Ridge, Bc on 04/24/2018

Dr Andrew Hall, I'm interested in the laser therapy, is it possible to get more info from you regarding this, ie would one go to a chiropractor for this type of therapy? and are you still doing well?

Thanks, Darb

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Replied by Andrew Hall from Sonora, CA on 02/06/2019

It has been over a year since I last posted on this site.

I am still doing amazingly well. Blood oxygenation varies between 97-99 and I was diagnosed nearly 4 and 1/2 years ago. I have found doctors for a lot of IPF patients. They report back to me that their oxygenation is better and there are no reports of additional fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. Pretty darned remarkable! I have not heard back from anyone that didn't get better in at least some way. Some of them, the results have been dramatic, some of them the results were more subtle but at least there was some improvement in one way or another.

Due to the numbers of IPF patients that have stayed in contact, and all the consistent positive changes we have started a study. If interested in the study go to ipflaserstudy.com and check it out. Make no mistake, I nor anyone else claims this to be a cure, because the laser treatment does not appear to remove the fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. However, it does appear to arrest the progression of the disease. I would also suggest to IPF patients to join the forum for IPF patients.

Go to PulmonaryFibrosisNews.com It is a forum with caring, loving and supportive people and can be very helpful to you. If you would like to find a laser provider near you go to Klaserusa.com. At the top of the page click on Medical Patient. Then on the far right at the top of the page click on Find a Medical Provider. God Bless everyone dealing with this terrible disease.

Just know there is hope.....

Dr Hall

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Replied by Richard from Texas on 12/13/2022

I have used and taught about Class IV lasers for 30 years. The Aura PTL II from Biolight Technologies has a wonderful home laser with preprogrammed treatments. They will custom build the laser with the programs you need.

https://www.biolighttechnologies.com/

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