Paula (Joshua Tree, Calif.) on 10/16/2007
Replied By Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 10/17/2007
A more detailed description in layman's terms on getting rid of this is:
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/morgRSPEC.htm
Actually my remedy is to take baking soda to get the urinary pH to 7, plus borax 1/4 teaspoon in one liter of drinking water. It appears that the remedy that is missing to completely kill them are the essential oils found to contain sesquiterpenes. The sesquiterpenes is well known to weaken HDPE, which is a major component breakdown of Morgellon. The HDPE is a plastic, of high density polyethylene and its fibers can be grown in a plain glass of petri dishes with no nutrients. Silver colloids seem to limited in a full blown Morgellon's although I haven't tested this with vitamin C, I do know taking orange oils were helpful too. Certain other that is helpful against morgellon's Include vetiver, clove oil, cedar oil, and pine needle oil.
However to completely stop with the open wounds due to Morgellon's (more like a gaping one) is to raise the urinary pH to 7, such as 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day in one half glass of water.
While I have using colloidal silver for over a decade, I haven't yet receive much positive outcome (perhaps lack of feedback) on the use of colloidal silver alone, and hence I don't usually use this a a remedy for Morgellon's.
What I can say is copper colloidal plus colloidal silver might be more effective, or even the addition of a copper peptide (soy sauce and copper chloride solution). However, that remedy is hard to do and was conveniently set aside, unless people still weren't helped with the original remedy. If anyone is doing these metallic colloids, all I can say is chromium made the conditions worse.
Replied By Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 10/21/2007
The other thing is that a colloidal silver I used that seems to be effective is a colloidal silver oxide solution.
It is prepared brewing the colloidal silver batch in a 0.5% H2O2. The resultant colloidal silver will be completely clear white and no yellow. All colloidal silver with the H2O2 won't cause agyria, since it is a silver oxide colloidal solution. A company patented a tetrasilver tetrooxide, which were found to be more effective than ordinary silver, due to silver's affinity to oxygen.
However an interesting effect I found is that while it is more effective, it won't cause the constipation. The reason why colloidal silver is not used, in some areas (except the U.S.) is the silver (pure from) are relatively difficult to acquire, which discourages some use in other non-U.S. countries.
There was one person who had AIDS used a single I.V. drip using tetrasilver tetrooxide and was cured of AIDS. It's mentioned in the patent on that too. So my guess is, we can make a similar analogue of that, just by adding a high peroxide 0.5% concentration of distilled water during the brewing process of low volt D.C.
The major reason why silver is effectiveness according to NASA is silver molecules has a very high affinity to oxygen and it is the oxygen that kills most anaerobes. If adding peroxide during the silver brewing process, this would result in a more effective antimicrobial properties. I have read that the three most effective antimicrobial metals are silver, zinc, and magnesium. Perhaps in their salts, or compounds such as silver oxide colloidal solutions, is what I think in combination would not require to take too large of a dose that some people might find too much. While copper colloidal is possible it should be mixed with a zinc colloidal or its appropriate salt where the zinc to copper is something like 4: 1, so that the body won't have the toxicity from copper, as zinc is an antagonist. If a zinc together with copper, taken together, or even the electrical properties of silver, with the copper, will result in electrical flows generated by the body's own salt, thus short circuiting the morgellon's, or perhaps virus. One clear example to prove to you that the body's salt, in presence of zinc and copper is killing the bacteria is this: get a multimeter, and measure the volts going through your body where the left hand for example is zinc rod, and the right hand with copper rod, attached to the multimeter, you will get about a hundred something volts, and some milliamps. This amount of electricity running in your body of copper or zinc colloids in the blood serum in presence of the electrolytes as it conducts electricity would be enough to kill the organism, and given the silver oxide, it will oxidized the microbes too, which generally all three would cleanse the blood of the microbes. A magnesium citrate in that form added as a supplements have antimicrobial properties too. Of course borax and baking soda is one remedy I know of Morgellon's. There are others, but those still needs to be tested. Hence, I suspect, also the silver acts as an electrodes too much like zinc electrodes, although in presence of all three this the electrical charges taking advantage of the body's salt would cause a high electrical potential which killed the morgellon's and other microbes, much like Bob Beck's device, or Hulda Clark's device, athough this one is done inside the blood stream, which would be more complete than the use of externally applied electrical appliances.
You can prove to yourself also that a simple sea salt solution, for example, in presence of zinc/copper, or silver/copper, would generate a electricity of several hundred millivolts and some milliamps. Theoretically speaking, the electricity potential at that rate would be technically more than sufficient to zap the microbes.
Thank you for your input! Will be most happy if you can provide me more information in the future!
Replied By Paula (Joshua Tree, Calif.) on 10/18/2007
Replied By Djpurity (Oakland, Ca, Usa) on 02/27/2010
This tincture, I tried when in parking lot for store y. I ride my bike because I live in Oakland and we have great public transit and bikes are popular. Anyway, by the time I get home, fibers and blood are leaking out of my face!
I take 5 droppers about 3 times a day, for the last few days. But the toxins of these things dying inside of me is killing my immune system. I have never felt this bad! My body is definitely fighting for control.... my immune system is winning! And this is only with using this product with the hydrosol silver, not hydro-colloidal kind most people think of. Which makes a difference, imho.
ANYWAY, what I do not understand is that feeling like run down, tired, feverish, swollen joints (I have reactive arthritis), but after being in bed sick for 3 days, look at my legs, the worst of the sores is almost completely healed up!
When I took a shower, it really helped. I heard they are attracted to red grapes for wine? I don't know what or why, but imagine finding a brand z of face peel mask made from merlot wine red grapes! And this mask always pulls out the skin fibers.
There are silver bandaids and silver gel out on the market, all "new" -- strange timing! Anyway, if one i truly infected with this disease, you will feel the toxicity of their death. This is no quick flush out and you're feeling fine. You will have to fight it out. It travels into your system,e esp blood, and other organs, since the lesions or fibers cause bleeding, they can enter as well.
My mom and I think the best way to heal is to hit it from all sides. She doesn't have it -- lives on the East Coast, USA, while I live in Oakland, CA, USA (the same city Keiser Permanente is headquartered and did that useless 2009 study)
She wants me to take cipro to counter infection, due to sores and lesions from where the fibers and their makers, these black specks.... weird, every fiber always had a black speck making it. This sounds like science fiction!!! Not this reality. This is current science!
Anyway I am still on day 4 of the purge using just this one product x. It expelled and killed so much of this so quickly, that now I have these toxic particles and crap in my system that my immune system is trying to flush out. I am dying of thirst non-stop, and drink and sweat nonstop. My body is trying to flush this out. Natural but I didn't expect it.
This is why I am sort of suspicious of any of these cures that are posted here that do not mention the after effects of the immune system having to clean up all that dead waste now that it's been stopped, killed, whtever.
I say yes to hydrosol silver.. which is very slightly ever so different than colloidal silver, hrmmm. But this is just me. I am trying my best to get up and shower and use charcoal soap. These are new on the market too it seems. I found these at the same store y that I got brand x of the silver. The charcoal sucks things up from the skin, debris, etc, AND it seems to work well with the silver colloidal soap I also have. Charcoal first, silver next. Bring it to the surface, kill it.
But to be honest, until I put this silver into my bloodstream, it was just moving the fibers around my body to use silver gel or silver bandages... they were shooting off branches under the skin of fiber, to a new location, away from the bandage. So I had to get it in my blood to kill it.
But there are many parts to this disease. I am dying of thirst as I type this. I think my body wants to flush it out and it keeps sweating and I just feel horrible but I know my body is healing, and my immune system is telling me rest while it cleans up. i tried to move around too much today and ended up back to bed. Can't wait until all these things are flushed out via sweat, etc.
Replied By Lisa (Spokane, Wa) on 05/16/2010
I tried topically: H2O2, which burned it black & helped but it returned.
I tried the borax, AVC, NaCO2, with some marginal help.
What really worked was animal wormers, Ivomectin 3gms topical type, increased to 12 mg daily for a week at the full moon. (bought it in aminal health section of feed store for cattle) Some symptoms did come back much milder - (all symptoms eventually returned except the skin fibers), and required repeated treatments, also tried alternating with other animal wormers to help decrease resistance over time.
Natural cures that seem to also help keep it in check are essential oils, oregano oil, thyme oil, eucaplytus oil, in a thyme tincture, sipped 2 X a day, about a tsp at a time. also taking some borax or bksoda for acidity (parasites generate lots of acidic wastes of their own that need to be eliminated).
I also take a bit of H2O2 at least once a day in some water, and Pot. Iodine a few drops a day, but these only gave minimal relief to control.
Additionally there seems to be a chlamydal or mycoplasm component that responds to n-Acetyl Cystene 6 pills 3 times a day, and sulfur pills - MSM or other sulfur suppliment - & wormwood powder (I grow some & dry the leaves to make a powder for me) 1 TBS 3 X day. and walnut hull tincture - 1 tsp 3Xday.
but I still need to continue treatments, I will try asprin cure - as I had shingles many years ago & it still seems to pop up occasionally - hence viral component to my immune disfunction, and lysine (2000mg)& vit C (few grams) helps to send it into remission but it returns whenever it can. (20 yrs now). Also need B12 in massive amts (due to chlamydl inhibiting this) and Iron phoryphroin toxicity, so I treat those also, and noticed some help. One thing I did notice when I first took some CoQ10 - I could really notice an improvemnt which eventually wore off... also a symptom of mitrchondra depression of energy - another Ch. symptom.
I have been vaccinated up to age 35, no jabs for the last 20 years. Also very poor teeth - heaps of mercury fillings, been working to detox both these problems (cilantro, & herbs, and all the suppliments to help with this problem)
hoemopathics seem to help - Silcia most effective, I take it as a suppliment, drops or pills, horsetail tea - (internal & external as baths), 3X , then 6X, then 12X, then 30 X, then back down to 12X, then 6X, then 3X,... various patterns and occasionally stronger dosage. over time it is helping to pull out infections & toxins.
Replied By Chel (Ofallon, Mo, Usa) on 12/25/2010
In regards to your use of hydrosol silver, bravo. Your intuition is right on when you say that the critters are dying off and giving your system too much to do in the way of detoxifying you. What you are experiencing is known as a Herxheimer reaction. One must take immediate measures to help the body rid itself of the debris of the dead and dying foreign invaders. Yes lots of clean water of course, also helpful will be some sort of fiber to absorb and eliminate toxins from the bowl. Psyllium husks, charcoal, perhaps colemeas, many items can work for many people.
Also to address the constipation accompanied by the use of silver; because of its ability to kill hundreds of different organisms it also kills the good flora of the gut, therefore one must recolonize the colon with probiotics. Please use the silver on an empty stomach in body temp water so that you will get the best absorption and efficacy in the blood stream. I will continue to pray for all of us. Thank you for being strong to talk about what is going on. All the best
Chel
Replied By Kathryn (MA) on 07/23/2022
To Chel and her reply to Better but with side effects. I second that. This is clearly a Herxheimer reaction to the die-off. I was diagnosed with Lyme and Epstein Barr after toxic mold exposure and some kind of skin parasite, maybe a mite, no fibers. During mold treatment I found Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's Mold Warriors protocol. He discovered the cholesterol drug Cholestyramine would eliminate mold toxin by binding bile and helping it to be excreted in stool. His important discovery was that perhaps 40-60% of people are genetically less capable of breaking down the toxic aldehydes in mold biotoxins. Similar biotoxins are produced by many pathogens, candida, lyme, EBV, and presumably mites and morgs. People with less efficient liver enzymes dump excess biotoxins into the bile, which goes to the small intestine. During digestion the body conserves bile by resorbing it along with its toxic load. Shoemaker discovered that the cholestyramine locks onto the bile and its biotoxins and ensures it is excreted out of the body. My personal discovery was born out of being unable to find a doctor to prescribe the cholestyramine for the mold because I didn't have high cholesterol. I learned the drug is a synthetic resin so I went looking for natural resins, particularly those with trad use for high cholesterol and heart disease. And I found them in spades! Myrrh, Frankincense, Dragon's Blood, Propolis (resin collected by bees) and my favorite, Guggul. All of these are sacred, revered medicines in many cultures. I was helped immensely in my mold treatment by Guggul resin, taken with a meal containing fat (to stimulate bile release). What I also discovered during lyme treatment was that this same strategy of binding bile to relieve mold biotoxin illness was majorly helpful against Herx reactions after meds that kill lyme and epstein barr virus. The Herx is partly caused by massive release of the biotoxins from dying cells, pathogens and degraded biofilms. The liver is overwhelmed and dumps the toxins into bile. Using these resins, and psyllium or modified citrus pectin (fibers are also bile binders, though I found, less effective at I than resins) as well as activated charcoal as a toxin absorber is the best way to stop a Herx reaction. I take two caps of Guggul with each meal for several days whenever I am on any anti-parasitic, anti-fungal, anti-viral, anti-microbial treatments such as silver, olive leaf, andrographis, oregano oil, H2O2, wormers, thuja, neem, black walnut, cloves etc. FYI: colloidal silver is a misnomer. The vast majority of silver products are actually ionic solutions made by electrophoresis. A colloid is a suspension of very tiny ground up particles, these particles are large so do not readily cross cell membranes. Most silver products today, call them what you will-colloidal or "hydrosol" (another misnomer), contain ions, charged particles in solution at the atomic level. Ions are very small, very easily absorbed, so use care in dosing. Anyway, I hope my trick for defusing a Herx reaction is helpful. It works quite well during any kind of an infection as well, helps with fever, malaise, fatigue.
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