Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 09/15/2012
The cure is free. It doesn't come in a bottle there are no magic potions, lotions or sprays and operations are a useless waste of time and money. All you need to do is swap the energy source you get from carbs and go high on protein at the same time. My absolute recommended low carb limit is 10% of product and there are no limits on protein bacon and eggs, all meat products, beef, lamb, poultry and fish- the diet of our paleo ancestors. Generally, serve with above ground and not below ground veggies (potatatoes & parsnip are the worst) but also avoiding corn, nuts and fruit.
To appease the sweet tooth, surprisingly, strawberries and cream are okay. It's the sweet tooth that gets one into this mess so it's denying the sweet tooth that is the only way out. From experience, the yearn for sugar does subside in due course. And also, if one is a Vegan, sorry to have to say it but you may never find a cure.
What I said to the doctor is this. Low carb, high protein. The problem is a yeast infection of the nose. The yeast feed on sugar in the diet and produce ethanol (read alcohol, which causes brain-fog) as well as compromising the thyroid which compromises Vit D levels and in turn compromises the immune system which is supposed to control the alien yeast infection. The immune system desperately needs help and the only way to do that is to reduce carbs in the diet, reduce the ethanol, unconfuse the the thyroid, boost the Vit D, boost the immune system response and win the battle. All for free just by changing the carbs intake to less than 10% of product and go high on protein to maintain energy and weight levels. And it takes about a month to get there if you don't cheat. Cheers :)
Replied By Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 02/05/2012
For the burning of sugars, take ---B Complex Vit, Minerals such as Vanadium and Chromium in particular, herbs like Cinnamon, Gymnema, Mulberry. ACV is also proved sugar burner. With this combo, positive results would have to be present. Oh, also Alpha Lipoic Acid is good glucose burner.
Replied By Carly (Seattle, Wa - Usa) on 02/05/2012
I don't see where you really cut out sugar much if you were eating those things. Maybe eating better over all caused you to lose weight. Perhaps being thinner put less stress on your body, allowing your immune system to work better to get rid of the polyps?
Just a thought.
:-)
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, South Australia, Australia) on 02/06/2012
Starches and fats I don't care about (except Trans fats that I really do prefer to avoid). I have targeted sugar as the only food source that feeds the fungus that cause the polyps. The first time I went "no sugar" I was 56kg at the start (and had been diagnosed with a Vitamin D deficiency by my doctor, which was the only problem he could find that I had, so that became part of the jigsaw puzzle that I put together) so I was already thin anyway but had a bad case of polyps. I scarily bottomed out at 52kg before I reintroduced sugar to regain weight and am currently 55kg and the polyps are gone again. A net sum of 1kg loss in weight hasn't destressed my body and eliminated the polyps, it can only be the sugar.
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, South Australia, Australia) on 02/06/2012
Replied By Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 02/07/2012
Also worth noting, studies show sugars like high fructose corn syrup not only make triglycerides to be stored as stubborn fat, but also suppress immune function substantially.
As for natural sweeteners ---honey, blackstrap molasses, and stevia are favorites.
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, S.a., Australia) on 02/08/2012
Your comment about "sugar suppresses immune function substantially" supports my theory about feeding the fungus that causes that (via the Thyroid causing Hypothyroidism, which is an underactive Thyroid function, which is whereby the immune function is reduced and also a Vitamin D deficiency both of which I was diagnosed to have had, by my doctor). Thank you for that. Anyone else reading this thinking where is the Thyroid anyway, picture it as a very small double handed grip around your upper wind pipe.
As for natural sweeteners and considering that fungus don't care what type of sugar they are being fed or where it comes from, the weight of an average teaspoonful of table sugar is about 4g, 1 tspn each of honey is 5.7g of sugar in 7g (81% sugar) and molasses is 3.7g of sugar in 6. 7g (55%) both of which are more or less the same as a tspn of table sugar and therefore no reduced sugar benefit whatsoever. Both of those products are definitely over my preferred limit of 5% and absolute limit of 10% sugar content. Artificial sweeteners I avoid like arsenic. Just Google "stevia good or bad" and your head will spin where to look first. If it was good, why is bad even an option. Cheers.
Replied By Anjomac (Woodstock, On) on 02/13/2012
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Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 03/09/2012
1) Besides the sugar content displayed on packaged foods, if you google or search 'nutrition data' you will find a site (no affiliations, not even a member) with all the sugar content of natural foods. Don't eat any fruit or natural food with more than 5% sugar content of total weight and the curing occurs.
2) The condition worsens initially and you may think this is a wasted effort, but please persevere. As the nasal polyps shrink and the passages to the sinuses reopen, there is a lot of trapped gunk up there that finally comes out. Take this as a positive sign of healing in action, it will soon pass.
In about 4 weeks time, it would be great to hear about your progress.
Brian.
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 03/09/2012
3) Vitamin D may well be a critical factor. Good sources are eggs and fish which are definitely on the menu, or there are supplements, but the best source is sunlight, which is free. Vitamin D deficiency can be determined with a simple blood test but regardless of that result, try to get 5 to 10 minutes of direct sunlight on as much of your body as you can without sunscreen lotion (and without offending the neighbours :) about twice a week. (My theory includes Vitamin D boosting the immune system to provide the knock out blow to the fungi.)
Replied By Kathryn (Kitchener, Ontario, Canada) on 05/01/2012
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 05/05/2012
You are quite right. When the skin is exposed to ultraviolet radiation it converts a cholesterol derivative in the skin into calciferol, or vitamin D3. The calciferol travels in the blood to the liver where it undergoes a first conversion and then on to the kidneys for a second conversion into calcitriol. Calcitriol is the biologically active form of Vitamin D. However, the link with the thyroid is that the conversion in the kidneys is promoted by a hormone released by the thyroid.
My theory is, when the thyroid receptors are confused by ethanol into thinking there is enough vitamin D in the body, then the thyroid shuts down the release of the hormone which is needed by the kidneys to enable the second stage conversion, which then results in a vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D is crucial to the proper functioning of the immune system. My theory included affecting the ability of the Eosinophils to battle the fungi residing in the nose - in a weakened state, they accidentally irritate the nasal lining instead, which then causes the polyps to form which then causes the breathing difficulties.
I theorised that the weakest link in this eternal loop of misery was to reduce the ethanol produced by the fungi by reducing sugar in the diet. This would not only starve the fungi but also un-confuse the thyroid, get vitamin D production going again to boost the immune system and thereby give more grunt to the Eosinophils to do their job properly and provide the knock-out blow to them.
I'll now take this opportunity to make an important alteration to my theory and therefore the diet strategy, that being in every post I have made so far:
WHEREVER SUGAR IS WRITTEN, REPLACE IT WITH CARBOHYDRATE.
About 5 weeks ago I had nasal polyps reform with a vengeance, worse than ever before. I was eating low sugar foods but they were high in total carbohydrates. Remembering what Carly from Seattle said, I took her clue and went to the next level and limited the foods in my diet to Total Carbohydrates of 10% of Volume. The body does need carbohydrates for energy, I'm not saying go to zero level, just back them off. I can only guess that being deprived of simple sugars, my body got more efficient at metabolising the sugars in the more complex carbohydrates, the starches.
So out went the pizza, potatoes, oven baked chips and crumbed fish. The fungal die off stage was the worst ever this time - sniffling, snortling and nose blowing 24/7 for about 2 weeks. I persevered through it all, staying with the revised theory and then suddenly in the space of 48 hours, almost miraculously, I went from full blown symptoms to absolutely no symptoms at all.
The result the third time is the same as my first two efforts with simple sugars, cured again. The polyps have either gone or shrunk away and I am breathing free and easy again. Life is so much better without them and I'm not about to invite them back soon - I'll stay with the 10% carbs plan instead.
Replied By Robbie (London, England) on 06/02/2012
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 06/03/2012
The most successful anti fungal/anti polyp diet should consist of nothing but lean meat, eggs, nuts and low carb vegetables (luckily I love steak or lamb chops & 3 veg, beef & veg stews, mince meat recipes, almonds, strawberries & cream and for breakfast, bacon & eggs alternated with avocado & yoghurt). No other fruit except tomatoes. No cheese. Also limit caffeine which prompts the liver to dump large doses of sugar into the blood stream. I will admit I do eat wholemeal bread at 37% carbs as toast under the bacon & eggs and also for a work lunch sandwich but I offset the bread with low carb fillings so the total carbs in the meal itself is under 10%.
I don't believe this is a lifelong sentence and at a guess may need between 4-6 months before safely reintroducing sugary products again but by then, the yearn for sugar (read poison) has hopefully diminished anyway.
Thank you for the Yea!
Replied By Jannette (Ridgewood, Nj) on 07/25/2012
I decided to try again with gluten/dairy free and this time I also eliminated sugar. It's been 4 weeks and again symptoms are better but still no sense of smell.
Are everyone else's polyps in their nose? Mine are not, they are higher up in my sinuses. (I have always been able to breathe through my nose) I wonder if nasal polyp location makes a difference?
Also, if you have eaten anything with sugar do the polyps immediately return, or can you "cheat" on occasion and still be okay?
I plan to continue this diet through the summer and hope for the best. Would love to hear more feedback from those of you who have been successful with eliminating sugar.
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 07/27/2012
Apart from cheating by offset, I would urge no other cheating until you are nose breathing 100% of the time, especially sleep time. Cheating just throws the yeast infection a sugar coated life jacket to hang on longer. Then when feeling confident, gradually reintroduce slightly higher carbs and some cheat times, but be prepared to back off immediately if any symptoms recur and try again later. Good luck and would love to hear that you can smell the roses again before the Summer is over.
Replied By Jannette (Ridgewood, Nj) on 07/27/2012
I will stay the course and hope to get my sense of smell back soon-I will let you know when it does!
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 07/28/2012
Replied By Doeboymcjc (London) on 08/21/2012
NO smell and still blocked up all the time atm. I am also trying tea tree oil (please still my posts above referring to tea tree oil). Peace.
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 08/25/2012
Replied By Doeboymcjc (USA) on 09/13/2012
I am still on my no sugar diet but have reintroduced carbs as I realised that I was becoming so weak that I could not think properly. I am on my forth week of the no sugar diet and still no results. I DID however get my smell back for about 2 hours in the evening on Saturday 1st September and it was sensational! But it went as soon as it came, pretty much. I am using my Micromist still three times daily. No sugar is a killer as I crave sweet things but I guess it's healthier and good for my teeth. So when my dentist asks me how I got such amazing teeth my answer will be "polyps" ;)
If this diet does not work after 1 month then i'm going to try something called 'Sinus Wars 13'. It's supposed to be a cure at about £70 a bottle. It's not a natural cure like the no sugar diet, but i'm desperate. I hate this condition.
I will keep y'all posted. Thanks.
Peace!
Replied By Brian (Adelaide, Sth Aus, Australia) on 09/15/2012
The cure is free. It doesn't come in a bottle there are no magic potions, lotions or sprays and operations are a useless waste of time and money. All you need to do is swap the energy source you get from carbs and go high on protein at the same time. My absolute recommended low carb limit is 10% of product and there are no limits on protein bacon and eggs, all meat products, beef, lamb, poultry and fish- the diet of our paleo ancestors. Generally, serve with above ground and not below ground veggies (potatatoes & parsnip are the worst) but also avoiding corn, nuts and fruit.
To appease the sweet tooth, surprisingly, strawberries and cream are okay. It's the sweet tooth that gets one into this mess so it's denying the sweet tooth that is the only way out. From experience, the yearn for sugar does subside in due course. And also, if one is a Vegan, sorry to have to say it but you may never find a cure.
What I said to the doctor is this. Low carb, high protein. The problem is a yeast infection of the nose. The yeast feed on sugar in the diet and produce ethanol (read alcohol, which causes brain-fog) as well as compromising the thyroid which compromises Vit D levels and in turn compromises the immune system which is supposed to control the alien yeast infection. The immune system desperately needs help and the only way to do that is to reduce carbs in the diet, reduce the ethanol, unconfuse the the thyroid, boost the Vit D, boost the immune system response and win the battle. All for free just by changing the carbs intake to less than 10% of product and go high on protein to maintain energy and weight levels. And it takes about a month to get there if you don't cheat. Cheers :)
Replied By Doeboymcjc (London, UK) on 09/27/2012
After reading the posts on this forum I understand the problems that arise with yeast and carbs but with my job (winter sports salesperson and photographer) and my love of sports it will be almost impossible to eliminate sugar, carbs and yeast from my diet. Sugar is enough! I am going to buy a product called ______. This is supposed to irradicate all polyps and the reviews look great from people who have tried it.
Brian - thanks for the help with your posts. I have now lost about a stone with the no sugar diet ;)
I will keep you posted with any results with ____. Its not a natural cure but I'm fed up.
Replied By Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 09/27/2012
Replied By Brian (Sth Aus, Australia) on 01/07/2014
I will further theorise that it should then follow that the ability to consume dairy products without any ill effects would confirm a healthy Immune System. Conversely, a bad reaction would therefore confirm a corrupted Immune System which in turn, must then confirm a yeast infection as the cause of the corruption.
Yeast infection can only be eliminated by diet, by removing their carbohydrate food source being sugar and starch. Low Carb diets abound and can be quite confusing. I ignore them all and apply a 10% Carbs Content Rule to stand alone and products in combination meals. There are only three simple qualifications to apply:
- Convert the Total Carbohydrates total on packaged products to a percentage by weight or volume. Avoid any over 10% unless to be combined with a lower offset.
- Determine carbs content in fruit, vegetables, nuts and seeds by researching ‘nutrition data'. The site I use, typing “raw” after a product limits the result.
- To maintain energy levels, consume protein in moderation and healthful fats without restriction but totally avoid all products containing trans fats.
High carb diets are also implicated in probably all of the major ailments that befall the world today, even including cancer. The only happy people are surgeons and owners of white collar drug companies and their shareholders.
Life is all about choices. People can also legally choose to either smoke or not and one is a healthier option than the other. In a perfect world, everybody would live their life without medical expenses. I have been polyp free and medication free for a long time now and instead of thinking Low Carb as being a restrictive diet, I think of it as a lifestyle choice. It isn't a diet anymore, it's simply a better way of life and easily the best choice.
Cheers.
Replied By Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 01/09/2014
Concerning loss of sense of smell. I did enjoy your post and your fine analytical style.
If you google "google scholar" and then "reasons for loss of sense of smell" you'll find a number of scientifically inclined papers which discuss a primary reason for loss of smell as
......Infection. And next,
......Lesions from some trauma to the nose/head.
For infections, I use colloidal silver to knock out viruses and for the lesions the use of serrapeptase, the enzyme which seems to have the ability to dissolve tissue structure. For instance, "serrapeptase scare tissue."
Other possible causes but of the articles that come up under the search I mentioned, those two seemed to be the most common.
On the "yeast infection" theory, very close to being "right on" but also might be viral. So if this were me, I'd at least try colloidal silver. I use CS as an irrigation; if it stings, I know an infection is present. I have to repeat many times to completely knock out the infection.
"Cheer" back at you.
Replied By Brian (Sth Aus, Australia) on 01/11/2014
Replied By Tanveer (Sydney, Austtralia) on 03/03/2014
One thing I would like to point out is that I have not completely eliminated all sugar from my diet, I still have my fruits but have eliminated all sugar that I used to add to my tea coffee (at least 4 cups a day), no fizzy drinks for me, no sweets but due to me being gym junkie I need to have protein shakes that do have sugar in them but that does not seem to have created any problems, may be because I burn more than I consume.
What is amazing is that even lowering my sugar intake has given me my life back, I can only see it getting better if I eliminate more sugar.
Other benefits I found by lowering my sugar intake were, my teeth seem to be glossy and whiter, As mentioned earlier that I am a gym junkie, I found that my sweat does not smell at all, I had read somewhere that the body odour is caused by bacteria feeding off sweat and it's their faeces that give out the foul smell, I guess their digestive system does not cope with sugar very well either ;-) (This would be something for people who are fed up with finding a chemical free cure for body odour),
I also find my energy and attention levels are stable (I feel I am able to focus better now, may be because my body does not go through sugar spikes anymore which allows me to stay focused longer).
I hope people find this helpful as I had,
Thanks again, Tanveer
Replied By Brian (Australia) on 03/09/2014
EC: Hi Brian!
Yesterday we posted on Earth Clinic's Facebook account about your wonderful thread. Here it is if you haven't seen it yet! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10201656164194097&id=60803892726
Replied By Phil (Sydney, AU) on 12/13/2014
Replied By Pnokeo (Bahamas) on 01/12/2015
I just stubble on the Earth Clinic site and read your threads. I was very excited about the recommendation you provided because I am a polyp and asthma suffer. I'm looking for some permanent relief. One year ago I started the process of cleaning up my diet and eliminated table sugar, along with most dairy products. I had stop eating red meat more than 14 years ago. My diet consist mostly of fruits, nutra-bullet smoothies, turkey and fish.
In addition, I lost my sense of smell and taste about 11 years now.
About two weeks ago when I found the Earth Clinic site, I tried one of the recommendations, the tea tree oil. As a result, I am able to sleep well, stop snoring and breathe through my nose for the first time by not using oral steroids. Also, after three days of using the tea tree oil, diluted with water, I sniffed inward and felt something roll to the back of my throat..I think it was a polyp??during my physical last year my doctor had said I had a large polyp higher up in my sinus??Unfortunately, I'm still not able to smell or taste.
What else can you recommend that would help me regain my smell and taste?
I await your reply. Many Thanks, Troy
Replied By Myway (Delaware) on 01/12/2015
MyWay, :D
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Replied By Brian (Sth Aus) on 06/10/2015
You are on the right track with the gluten connection, which I hereby formally add to the opening theory, as being the absolute starting point for developing polyps. Dairy intolerance and food allergies are more likely a side effect from the damage caused by gluten. Only buy meat from a reputable butcher who procures product from pasture raised sources. Avoid wheat, barley, rye and all cereal, flour, pastry and pasta products therefrom, whether or not they are organic or GMO. They are all above the 10% carbs limit protocol anyway.
Replied By Marie (Randolph, Ma) on 07/25/2015
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Replied By Dennis (Greenwich, London, Uk) on 12/22/2016
EC: AVC = Apple Vinegar Cider
Replied By Debbie (Dorset) on 10/28/2017
I am unable to breathe at all through my nose, I have visible polyps in each nostril and awful pressure in my sinuses, my ears are always blocked and I have had no sense of smell or taste for more years than I care to remember. It's truly miserable and embarrassing!
I'm doing this TODAY!
Replied By Brian (Sth Aus) on 10/28/2017
William from AZ, you are spot on, sugar is an addictive drug.
Meredith from MA, there is a 4th option, which is cut out sugar. But the medical cartel will not tell you to do that or how to do that.
Debbie from Dorset, it is probably easier for a smoker to quit smoking than for a sweet toothed person to quit sugar. You need to possess a massive amount of perseverance. Starting from breakfast, monitor your food items to be under 10% carbs per volume per each and go further into the day as you progress. For breakfast, I choose from example items such as avocado with flaxseed oil, soft boiled eggs - salted, spinach leaves and oven baked bacon. When you can string one month together, the polyps will disappear. After that happens, keep it going for another month and then monitor your food items to be under 10% carbs for any one meal. You can eat meat and potatoes again one day and in the interim, to appease the sweet tooth, strawberries and cream do qualify. All the best.
PS My email address posted 08/25/2012 has been cancelled.
Replied By Barbara Allatt (Uk) on 10/11/2022
Replied By Art (California) on 10/11/2022
Barbara Allat,It may be helpful to alternate days of colloidal silver(CS) nasal application with days of Xlear Nasal Spray(XNS) at maximum dose on label. This can increase the antimicrobial activity and both have antibiofilm activities which can be helpful in long standing infections.
So one day of CS treatment followed by one day of XNS treatment at max dose and continued in that fashion to better fight the infection('s). The oral CS can remain at everyday as you are already doing. How many ppm is your CS?
The XNS contains Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) along with Xylitol. Both Xylitol and GSE have antibiofilm effects as does CS and the GSE is a potent antimicrobial as is CS.
Silver Nanoparticles have also shown anti inflammatory effects in animal models of chronic sinusitis :
https://biomedres.us/pdfs/BJSTR.MS.ID.002050.pdf
And GSE also has also shown anti inflammatory properties :
Art