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Mindy (Pt Chester, USA) on 10/18/2010

I've been using Ted's Mange cure and am thrilled with the results. However my dogs are a deep liver color and due to the 1% peroxide they are turning orange (even after 1 or 2 applications). Someone wrote that you can substitute vinegar in place of the peroxide. Is the vinegar used straight or is it diluted?

Thank you, Mindy"

11/13/2010: Aj from Grants, Nm/us replies: "You said "do not wash", what about the rotten smell that comes with the infection"

11/14/2010: Guin from Cleveland, Texas replies: "What is the mixture of sodium perborate to water, as I found that all color bleach has it in it. It is made by everyday living, and has sodium carbonate, inorganic salts, sodium perborate or sodium percarbonate, enzymes, fragrance, fabric brightening agent, and colorant. Is there anything in this that is harmful??"

11/17/2010: Eve K from Houston, Tx replies: ""Mange" refers to two different types of mite infestation. It is important to know which type you are dealing with. Other skin conditions can also mimic mange. Get a scraping done at the vet to know which type of mange you are dealing with (if it is in fact mange). The vet will probably offer you two conventional treatment options; or you can proceed with a natural treatment. DEMODECTIC mange aka "red" mange (demodex mites):

1. Is NOT contagious--you do NOT need to "disinfect" your entire home or treat multiple pets (unless they are truly also suffering from it) or yourself.

2. Is a genetically inherited immune deficiency. Some dogs will only have outbreaks (flare ups) at certain times (coming into heat, for example). Dogs with demodectic mange should NOT BE BRED. This is a heritable immune defect. If your dog has demodectic mange, their parents and littermates had it too. All dogs have a few demodex mites but their immune system keeps the population under control. It is when there is a defect in the immune system that an overgrowth occurs and mange symptoms arise. I am posting this because there is a great deal of misunderstanding in the posts I have read. Sarcoptic mange (scabies) is another situation altogether. It is contagious and requires different treatment. Your vet will tell you which type you are dealing with."

12/19/2010: Stephanie from Spring, Texas replies: "I keep hearing this but I also hear others say it has nothing to do with the breeder. The breeder we bought both of our white german shepherd dogs from here in Dickinson, Texas. We have 2 of the 5 from the litter. We have the only female. About 2 months ago they went into heat, well he did forst, and he began to break out. We took him to the vet and the vet said it was a breeder issue. She claimed to know nothing about Demodex and said she had never had an issue with the puppies however others tell us it is definitely a breeder issue. How do you know and if it is an immune problem, we have since had them fixed, will it continue to get worse? He is worse, we have removed gluten form their diet and bedding, the water bottles they are chewing on etc. The only thing left is to give them bottled water! She claims nobody but us has complained so I am worried it may be us but one is also better than the other. The bigger one, a boy, is ten time worse than the female. Trying to find a vet familiar with german sheperds is really hard."

02/07/2011: Bgthomas from Houston, Tx replies: "To Stephanie of Spring, TX, demodex mange on 2 gsp dogs, litter mates, male and female. I have been told it is not cureable, but managable. Both of the dogs I own came from very reputable breeder/handler. It is a inmune system problem, been treating them with ivomec, imune powder and diet."

02/11/2011: Kate from Hanceville, Al replies: "I followed this regimen exactly for 5 weeks. Although my dog looked much better and started to regrow hair, her skin scrapings at the vet 2 days after a treatment revealed numerous demodex mites. I am returning to traditional treatment with possible use of the borax solution additionally."

03/18/2011: Jeff from Tampa, Florida replies: "I have used this treatment on my 60 pound dog with some success. I have not used it as often as I should because of a side effect that I have not seen mentioned in this blog. First, I wash the dog, then immediated soak her in the solution. Two minutes later she starts getting very nervous and starts shaking nervously. For about 15 to 20 minutes she is a nervous wreck. She gets so hyped up that she has scaled a 6 feet stockade fence around my backyard, which see never does otherwise. A few times she has vomited during that time period. She finally calms down. I would love to know if anyone has had the same experience. If Ted has an explaination I would be grateful. The solution helps her, but I don't have the heart to put her through that very often, so she still suffers with the mites."

03/26/2011: Mybuddy from Colden, Ny replies: "I had found Ted's solution over a year ago and successfully treated my dog's demodectic mange. His fur was falling out in clumps, his skin was red and turning black, he was constantly itching or licking and smelled funky. I spent a small fortune in prescription food, prescription shampoos, cortisone shots and mange treatments - the vet believed that it was allergies and not mange. I bathed my dog with an Oatmeal based shampoo, then applied the solution and let him dry per the instructions on this site. I did this every couple of days for two weeks, then weekly for a couple of weeks and then every month after that. I also have been giving him a multi-vitamin along with Brewer's Yeast/Garlic tablets. His skin had turned back to a healthy pink and his fur is thick and soft. Additional things I learned:

Cortisone will make the mange worse.

The mange tends to be worse during winter and generally in those dogs that may be immune challenged. (My dog did not require the treatments during the summer, but I saw a change once Fall started and resumed the monthly treatment.)

Dogs will throw up if they have consumed the solution, as the peroxide makes them vomit.

My dog wants to immediately roll on the ground to get the solution off of him - I keep him on the leash outside to go to the bathroom after the bath, then put him on his bed to dry.

My dog did not have food allergies - I have had him on the same food that the vet took him off of and he is fine.

Last note, at my dog's yearly vet visit, the vet could not believe how beautiful his coat was and had never seem him so healthy. I explained what I was doing with the treatment, but I think he doubted the mange and solution effectiveness. Either way, my dog's skin and coat have never been better and there are no harsh chemicals involved! Thank you Ted!"

04/02/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Ma, USA replies: "All you folks are very lucky people, I have a mangy cat that is hard to tangle with, I try to be gentle because her immune system is way down and she's only a wee thin kitten, but she wants to fight for her life either way. Try picturing a kitten getting a bath (chuckles) Thanks every one for this great site ;o)"

04/16/2011: Totos.tribe from Victoria, Bc, Canada replies: "Hi There: I have a question for Ted regarding his "mange cure"

I have been treating a mixed breed spayed female. She has had demodicosis since birth. I "cured" her once using traditional vet treatments of Amitraz etc. Then the mange reoccurred. So I tried your "mange cure". It immediately started to work. Her skin started looking pink and healthy, her hair has grown back almost everywhere except for her hind quarters. However, after six weeks, the dog is developing a problem around the base of her tail and she is once again biting at herself and the skin is becoming infected and obviously has mange.

My question; I am currently in Mexico and the only source of Borax purchase is in the local hardware store. It is packaged by them and the word Borax is written on the package. Is there a way I can test it or tell if it is really Borax? The first time I purchased the powder would dissolve and then leave some crystals in the bottom of the pail. This time, it is in a different package (new shipment) and when I mixed the Borax into the hydrogen peroxide/water solution it formed a hard salt like crystal on the bottom. So I'm not sure I've actually got real Borax and am looking for a simple way to test it or tell if it is real Borax. It is the only source of Borax I have been able to find here.

Your cure worked so well, that my vet now wants me to do applications on his other clients who have the same issue. I would like to know that I'm using the right product.

Also, my girl was doing so well. Can you give me any advice as to what is happening around the base of her tail? I am returning to Canada soon and would like to take her home with me. But I will not be able to if she does not heal. I am going to put the "cone" back on her today so that she cannot bit herself and continue to treat her. Looking for any advice you can give.

Many thanks, Osa the dog's person"

05/15/2011: Concerned Mommy from St.louis, Mo replies: "will adding borax to my dogs drinking water kill them? has mange bad and we are treating her accordingly. Her ears seems to be the big issue. Another issue is do I need to treat my carpet and furniture and places where she sleeps?

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Replied By Jennifer (Denville, New Jersey) on 12/12/2011

If you feed your cat or dog pet food, they have a weak immune system. It's like humans eating pretzels 3 meals a day for 365 days a year. Raw meat is the only thing that a carnivore can live and thrive on. It's why dogs pant; they are dehydrated from pet food. Raw meat provides all the juices, water, nutrition they need to live 25-30 years old.
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Replied By Jessicadlg (San Benito, Texas) on 12/14/2011

So in short form what are the ingredients and measurements of the remedy?
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Replied By Laurie (Charles Town, Wv) on 01/06/2012

Someone asked quite a long time ago whether the cider vinegar was to be used full strength or diluted (when substituting it for the peroxide), but there was never an answer to that question. Does anyone (including Ted) have an answer? I prefer to use cider vinegar rather than peroxide. Thanks in advance if anyone can help!
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Replied By Dee (Manchester, Nh) on 02/09/2012

About a year ago, I started noticing some hair loss on my dog and then the skin where the hair loss was turned black. After several trips to various vets and numerous skin scrapes, no mites were detected. A course of antibiotics were prescribed, various medicated shampoos were prescribed, nothing was helping. I had completed the food elimination diet twice, nothing changed the skin problem.

Six months ago, the skin got incredibly worse. A friend suggested a specific treatment, and it actually helped a lot. The fur grew back, most of the itching stopped, and the skin color changed to healthy pink/white again. About three months ago, that all changed and my dog lost the majority of fur on her legs and torso. The itching was crazy. I started the previous treatment right away, as the fur loss and skin color change literally all took place in a couple of days. The previous treatment was not working.

Then, I noticed some hair loss on her face, I knew right then, no matter what skin scrapes said it was demodex. I immediately used the Goodwinol ointment on her face. Even that didn't help. The demodex was not localized but generalized so I knew extreme measures had to be taken. I do not like using ivermectin for Demodex as even though it can boost the immune system it is a temporary solution to an ongoing problem.

I purchased the Borax/peroxide and made the solution. I added coconut oil and ester C to the dog's diet to boost the immune system. Literally, the very next day, I saw fuzz coming in on the affected areas. The skin wasn't angry red and where it was black it was going lighter in color. I have administered the bath 4 times in the past week, as this case is the most severe I have seen. Each day I have seen marked improvement in the skin and fur growth, as well as decrease in the itching. Amazingly enough, the skin has not dried out, which could be a direct result of the coconut oil added to the diet. Once we have the issue under control I will have the dog spayed as we are well aware that the heat cycle instigates the rapid production of demodex mites. We may always have issues with the mites with this dog, but at least we know how to manage the condition and can work on boosting her immune system.

I am very grateful to have found this treatment, and wished that I had used it six months ago. Thank you!

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Replied By Lynn (Pearlington, Ms) on 02/16/2012

Which also works great for mange, ear mites, fleas, etc... Is Cedarcide
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Replied By Linda (La Cruz De Huanacaxtle, Nayarit, Mx) on 03/17/2012

Ted, What would be the recipe using DMSO? I have Borax, H202, ACV, and some DMSO. Would using the DMSO be the most effective choice?
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Replied By Jen (Phoenix, Az) on 03/25/2012

I have a pit bull mix with extreme anxiety which causes her immune system to be compromised. Lately she has been suffering with mange/mites. The vet mess weren't helping so I went searching for something else. I found Ted's remedy and although the directions for mixing were a bit confusing, I figured it out. I am amazed at the quick results. I wish I could post our before and after pictures just 4days after the first dip! The mixture I used was 2 cups 3% hydrogen peroxide, 4cups hot water and as much Borax as would dissolve in the water/peroxide mixture. Once it began settling on the bottom, I stopped adding the Borax. I used a hair color bottled to soak the worst areas and then just poured the rest over her. I'm so thankful I found this post. She hasn't had any side affects and the hot spots are gone, the skin is pink rather beet red, and hair is growing back. Thank you so much!
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Replied By Sammi (Bixby, Oklahoma) on 04/07/2012

@Jen from Phoenix. Could you possibly send me some pics of your dog's Mange? We have a blue pitbull that started with a spot on her head that seems to itch & cause her pain. Over a few weeks a spot the size of a dime showed up on both her front & back leg. After taking her to the vet today I feel like we got no where. She did a skin scraping but saw nothing. She recommend using a neosporin/benadryl mixture & said it's probably allergies but could be mange. I'm just very worried about her & want to be sure we are getting her the best treatment we can. Thanks so much! My email address is sammibyrne [at}yahoo (dot) com.
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Replied By Travis (Phoenix, Arizona) on 04/19/2012

I have found that you can find the hydrogen peroxide at dollar stores, and ty to ted for this wonderful solution.
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Replied By David11g35 (Los Angeles, California) on 04/25/2012

How often do you give the dog a bath in the borax/peroxide solution?
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Replied By Jo (Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India) on 04/27/2012

Hey Ted, Thanks for the borax treatment. My dog had severe mange and got him every possible treatment. doctors told that the infection was coz of food allergy. Doctors also told us that he will not survive if the infection continues for long because of less resistency.

I have seen this treatment and applied the borax solution every alternate day and was amazed with the results. Now he is a healthy dog without any mange... and recently taken him to the doctor for his vaccination (anti-rabis) was shocked looking at him with his healthy and shiny hair.

Wud seriously recommend this treatment to every dog, cat with mange. Thank you ted!

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Replied By Luvmybostons (Perris, Ca. ) on 04/27/2012

My 5 month old female boston terrier has mange with a secondary skin infection. She has these pimple like bumps all over he body and face. When she scratches they burst and pus and blood comes out. Can I still use this solution on her? or should I get the infection under control and then go through with the solution? She has already had a series of ivermectin shots with no success. Now I am looking at an additional 700 dollar vet bill if I want to go through with the vets recomendation of more meds and intibiotic. PLEASE HELP!!
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Replied By Bellasgram2 (Raleigh, N.carolina, Usa) on 05/31/2012

I have a 5 & 1/2 month old lab/great dane mix. I got her when she was about 12 weeks old, she was very undernourished at that time. About a month ago I noticed she had a few pimple like sores on the back of her legs (no fleas). These pimples started to spread quite rapidly. The vet gave her antibiotics thinking it was 'pustules' that, I was told, puppies sometimes get. I also changed her food to a natural food, no corn or other stuff she might be allergic to. 2 weeks later & the pimples/sores are all over her body now & very, very itchy & some hair loss & thinning hair all over her body.

I ran across this web site last night while searching for a home remedy for mange. I got to thinking it could quite possibly be mange after doing some research on- line & the fact that her immune system might not be what it should be due to her malnutrition early in life(shes a good weight now). I read many posts on different sites of how people have spent hundreds of dollars at their vet & their dogs were no better off.

After reading all the positive feedback from people using Ted's remedy I decicded that this just might do the trick so first thing this morning I ran out to get the ingredients, bathed my dog as it said & poured the 'borax solution' all over her body, massaging it to the skin. I also put some in a small spray bottle to get areas I might have missed. Than I went around & disinfected all areas that she has access to & her crate & blanket. Collar & harness too got a soaking in the solution & hung out to dry. I'm not going to say that its working already but she is (as I type this)sleeping peacefully in the chair. I'll know for sure tonite for thats a high itching time! I also gave her a fish oil capsule & plan to give her one a day. If this works it will be a miracle for me & I'll be sure & keep the ingredients on hand in case we need it in the future. I will post again & let everyone know how its going.

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Replied By Jade (Orlando, Florida) on 07/22/2012

Thank you for this remedy. I will try it as my pom has sores & I have cut all his fur off to treat better. Hydrocortizone cream seems to help him not itch but I need something I trust to be safe to rulle out and/or treat for mange. These sores are big. I nned to treat the cause. Our lake at our apartments in the city is infested with fleas from a "dog friendly apartment complex". It could be infested with mange as all the dogs walk the same path around the lake & there are unhealthy outdoor cats that seem ferrel. You would think "dog friendly" would mean people treat thier dog's bug problems quickly as they hurt the dogs. I posted that Borax is in the laundry detergent isle so people can find it. :(
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Replied By Carmen (Tulsa, Ok) on 07/30/2012

I have a Keeshond that I am so embarrassed that I didn't see this was a problem until now. We have moved to apts that have a "doggie" area and I think that is where he has picked it up. He is mostly an inside dog. But I was already deciding I needed to do more about his diet, reading this has given me some new ideas about that. I just gave him frontline. I had just bathed him, not sure if it is mange or not. I know he needs the Frontline, but now that I have found this, would I need to wait the 30 days? Will this take away the effectiveness of the Frontline? I hate to wait very long as he is so miserable. I am trying to get him all turned around, I feel so bad for him.
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Replied By Om (Hope, B.c., Canada) on 05/21/2013

I would just like to add to all of these posts that many remedies obtained from pharmaceutical sources are very dangerous to say the least.

Ivermectin is cancer causing according to a homeopathic vet who wrote about dog/cat treatment. ANTIBIOTICS are a sledge hammer method that reduce the immune system and many animals never regain their proper state of health again. This is also my experience. Vaccinations reduce life span and do irreparable damage. I have heard of cats not only contracting the disease vaccinated for but also had personality changes, etc. afterwards. Blood must be kept clean, not poisoned. I think antibiotics are largely responsible for Candida outbreaks. A vet told me years ago that cortisone reduces ones life span. Not to speak about side effects. It boils down to the fact that recovery is unrealistic when the body gets exposed to these. These days the above treatments are becoming common usage as vets only know about pharmaceuticals which they are supposed to use.

Use your common sense in all these issues. The resonable priced items such as h202 and borax may be more difficult to obtain in the near future so a supply of these should be kept on hand. In reviewing the misleading and blatantly false statements on some of these such as borax and h202 one may understand the real reason behind it and it is commerce. Again, ask yourself why?? God has given us our immune system. Now why slam it down with dangerous drugs? It is totally contrary to common sense. Healing is an art. Each individual needs to find out what works and find out what else can be done before the bodily system gets damaged beyond recovery. Health has become a business so let the buyer beware.

I am so grateful I found this site as in all the years of rescue I lost a lot of animals I could have saved , and it set me on the right track. Read up on Chinese and Ayurvedic remedies just to see what healing is all about.

The good news is in the NEAR future the world will have an entirely new system for health and healing affordable for all. Meanwhile just like myself, I am amazed how far I have come in understanding the principle of regaining health. It is not about "managing" but about curing, healing.

Peace to all wonderful posters and their critters and a big thank you for all EC staff. Om

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Replied By Sharon (Wesley Chapel, Fl) on 07/11/2013

To Jeff, regarding your dogs nervousness and reaction after treatment. Is it possible you may have indadvertently used too strong of hydrogen peroxide? Test a little on yourself before you try it on the dog. It sounds like it might be burning or stinging his skin from his reaction, and the fact that he calms down later.
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