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Tara (San Francisco, CA) on 11/08/2007
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This is feedback for the VITAMIN C AND LYSINE COMBINATION treatment for broken capillaries. I've had a few broken capillaries since childhood - around the nose from excessive nose blowing due to hay fever, a small one under an eye, and one on a finger. For about 2 years I was taking 1-2 grams of vitamin C per day as a general health booster and one standard lysine pill (can't remember the dose) per day to prevent cold sores. I didn't notice any change in the broken capillaries. My doses were a lot lower than yours, but I took them for such a long time that you'd think there'd be some improvement. Oddly, the broken capillary on my finger disappeared spontaneously a few years after that. Lysine and vitamin C are both cheap though, so it's worth a shot. But if you try it, I'd recommend taking the huge doses described.
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Replied By Jay (Selangor, Malaysia) on 04/06/2009

Read that over dosage of lysine will damage the liver..if so..how to take 3g each day for curing broken capillaries? anyone know abt this?
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Replied By Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 04/07/2009

Hello Jay,

I looked up Linus Pauling by searching for Linus Pauling Institute and found that the recommended dosage for cardiovascular health was 3-6 grams of each daily but I usually take 8 grams of each daily for colds, flu, herpes simplex without any adverse reactions. Linus Pauling's theory is that cardiovascular problems are caused by a deficiency of vitamin C which is necessary for building collagen. Vitamin C (specifically ascorbic acid) works as an enzyme to convert proline and lysine to hydroxyproline and hydroxylsine which are building blocks of collagen. You will find much interesting information on studies that proved his theory, and other studies that found men who were low on vitamin C had many more heart problems (including infarcts) and that many patients with chronic heart disease and atherosclerosis regained normal cardiac function with his therapy. Two other vitamins (E & A) were also recommended for cardiac health. Other studies proving his therapy cleared the arteries in a few months time are discussed. The fact that orthodox medicine (pharmaceuticals, hospitals, AMA have managed to keep this from being widely circulated, IMHO it probably works so well that the entire medical field would have suffered economic distress due to a drastic decrease in patients having CAB's and other surgeries and expensive procedures related to heart disease.

In view of current reports of everyone being low on magnesium and knowing that magnesium has a lot to do with heart rhythm and blood pressure, a good magnesium supplement probably is in order also

Now I have a question for you. Can you give me your reference to lysine causing liver damage because the only thing I could find is that both C & lysine are known to be safe at least up to 4 grams each per day and 2 others that said no adverse reactions to lysine are known and lysine reactions are not very well reported. My personal experience is that both are safe up to 8 grams of each per day. You will find that most literature states that GI irritation occurs above l0 grams of Vit. C per day orally but much larger dosages have been given IV without adverse reactions.

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Replied By Jay (Selangor, Malaysia) on 04/08/2009

Thanks so much for doing the research for me...from what i search in the net, it says damage liver and kidney if taken in high dosages and said that 1g a day is the proper dosage..so i wasnt sure whether taking 3g is safe. Thanks for enlightening that 3 g is still safe. I will continue with my 3g L-lysine , 4 g Vit C a day regime then. However i will be glad if you could point to me which website your were getting these helpful info..it will be great help...thanks
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Replied By Jay (Selangor, Malaysia) on 05/05/2009

After taking 3 g of L-Lysine and 4g of vit C a day for consecutively 5 days, my bladder is painful when urinating. Then I stopped for 2 weeks, the pain stops. I continued taking the same dosage again and on 7th day, i got the same pain again...is this a side effect? I think this will lead me to develop kidney stones as mentioned in some website.
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Replied By Dlmaui (Haiku, Hawaii, Usa) on 01/28/2012

For Jay: This is from the Linus Pauling institute webpage: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminK/

"Toxicity

Although allergic reaction is possible, there is no known toxicity associated with high doses of the phylloquinone (vitamin K1) or menaquinone (vitamin K2) forms of vitamin K (20). The same is not true for synthetic menadione (vitamin K3) and its derivatives. Menadione can interfere with the function of glutathione, one of the body's natural antioxidants, resulting in oxidative damage to cell membranes. Menadione given by injection has induced liver toxicity, jaundice, and hemolytic anemia (due to the rupture of red blood cells) in infants; therefore, menadione is no longer used for treatment of vitamin K deficiency (4, 6). No tolerable upper level (UL) of intake has been established for vitamin K."

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