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Darrel (Toronto, Canada) on 03/01/2008
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Ionic Foot Detoxification Methods. I just bought one of these and then read Ted's email now i'm all confused. I emailed the guy that I bought the ionic spa from and told him what Ted said and he told me this:

You need to understand how the cellspa works. You think that the material in the water after the use of the cellspa means toxins. It is actually a mixing of the oxidation of the water and the toxins. While the array increases the oxidation of the water, at the same time, is where the electromagnetic circuit (body to water) closes.

You will need a microscope to find out the difference on the water contents after you use the cellspa, with your feet in the water, and without your feet on the water.

If you would check the water contents under the microscope when your feet were not placed in the water, you will find just water and water oxidation, no toxins at all.

If you would check the water contents under the microscope when your feet were placed in the water, you will find the same results, plus different kind of toxins derivated from your body cleanse, depending on your body physical condition.

Replied By Darrel (Toronto, Canada) on 04/22/2008

Update: Ok, after doing a bunch of these detoxes. I don't notice or feel any different. The stuff is definitively coming out of the array not your feet when you keep an eye you can see stuff coming out of the array. Anyways people on a forum I been to did tests on it and got the same result as Teds. So I just waisted a bunch of money.

Here's some of what they said.

We borrowed a popular unit from a friend of ours and ran our three employees through it according to the instructions provided with the unit. Then we ran the unit twice without feet in it at all. Here's what we found.

The water was visually identical in all cases.

This is most likely because the gunk that you see in the water has nothing to do with your feet or detoxing your body. It comes from the corroded metal electrode in the water. This electrode corrodes at a hyper rate caused by a process called electrolysis. The result is everything from foam to slimy films to black flecks in the water.

We had the water lab tested for metal content, including heavy metals. We found no difference between the normal sample and the control samples (samples that had no feet in them).

I also know that some people say that the water looks different depending on who's feet are in the water. We found this to be somewhat true as well, but, when the water was mixed, it all looked exactly the same. In fact, when the feet came out of the water, I could see that the water began to settle towards a similar appearance in all cases. It's possible that the initial differing appearance is caused by various oils or other substances on the surface of the skin of the person being bathed.

The appearance of the water also -I tend to believe - depends on how much a person moves around in the water. The electrode gives off a lot of muck in the water. If a person is fidgety, they tend to mix more of the greens and browns into the water from the corroding electrode. If they are more still, the water has a lighter brown hazy appearance. I believe that this is likely why companies that have been more honest in their advertising have admitted that, even with no feet in the water, the water turns brown. They then say that the water is more brown when feet are in it, but this is, in my opinion, because of the movement of the feet in the water. This mixing action increases the efficiency of the electrolysis by circulating fresh water near the electrode. This circulation also carries the particles from the electrode into the water instead of allowing it to settle.

In speaking to a number of people at the convention we attended in September, we also learned that many people believe that the black specks that are found in the bottom of the water are heavy metals that have come out of the feet.

Well, I was initially skeptical of this because the basic physics of this make it quite impossible. When confronted with this idea, some explained that they believe that the metals come out in very small particles and then coagulate because of the electricity present. Since we found these same dark specs at the bottom of both of our foot bath sessions that had no feet in them, I believe this is, at least, unlikely. It is also very unlikely because if the amount of particles that came out of the bath really came from a person and were heavy metals, they would be dead to begin with. The amount of mercury (and other heavy metals) that cause death is way too small to be seen, especially in the volume of water used in a foot bath.

I've also seen live cell analysis showing that peoples' red blood cells look healthier after an electronic foot bath. This could be true, yet, in speaking to a person I know who does live cell analysis, they told me that it's very easy to manipulate these tests- making one look like the cells are "lazy" and making the very next test making the cells look healthy and active. I'm not saying the company did this. I'm just saying that I would like to see tests done by a disinterested third party.

I would like to see a study where people take the supplements that are normally given to people when they have a foot bath and they soak their feet in water with the minerals added but have no electricity applied to the water. It would be interesting to see if this causes people to feel differently as well.

I truly wish our tests had shown that these foot baths remove heavy metals because I would have been thrilled to have found a quick and safe way to detox. Also, I would be manufacturing these devices right now and making quite a bit of money. Unfortunately, we don't make much money doing what we're currently doing, but we pay the bills (usually) and people benefit, and that's rewarding.

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I realize that the idea of 'Ionic Foot Baths' (IFB) can seem very convincing, and I'm sorry to have to rain on the parade, but I feel I must point out that anyone who has learned how to make Colloidal Silver (CS) can see at once what these baths are really about.

Both procedures, IFB and CS, use electrolysis - the setting up of a small current of electricity between two electrodes that are immersed in water. When making CS it's extremely important to use the PUREST water available. It's also important to control the current so that it never exceeds 1.0 milliamp.

If the water is impure and contains a lot of minerals (as is the case with most tap water), or if the current is too high, you will get exactly the same results as these 'Ionic Foot Baths'; you will end up with dirty discolored water. The sludge and discoloration will have come from the electrodes, and from the impurities in the water which will have undergone chemical changes by reacting with electricity. The various colors that have been reported could simply be the product of the kind of mineral salts, such as sea salt, that have been added to the starting solution.

You can very easily duplicate what happens in an 'Ionic Foot Bath' by connecting up three nine-volt batteries to two wires, stripping the ends of the wires, inserting them in a jar of water, and adding a pinch of sea salt or some other mineral salt. Cloudiness and discoloration should appear fairly quickly, and sludge will eventually build up on your electrodes if you let this little experiment in electrolysis run for half an hour or so.

A foot bath is always nice and refreshing. An 'Ionic Foot Bath' is probably even more stimulating. But to suppose that the resultant debris has actually been drawn from deep inside your body is, I'm sorry to say, really stretching the imagination. The impurities in tap water, which are normally invisible to the naked eye, quickly become visible when you run a current of electricity through it.

Here the link: http://herballure.com/Studies/IonicFootSpa.html

Replied By Darrel (Toronto, Canada) on 05/22/2008

Ionoic Foot Detoxification:

lol -- even the inventor says all these colour changes and foot detoxing is false. Her claim is that this basically stimulates the organs with electricity.

Replied By James (Sedona, Arizona) on 09/27/2008

Well Darrel from Toronto... I went to the link of the person you said was the "inventor" - go to the article... she is a distributor, not an inventor. That makes me question your "scientific" information on this.

I suggest others do their research beyond these postings.

Replied By Kaygee (Cobourg, Ontario) on 09/28/2011

If the ionic foot bath is the electroydes creating the discoloration in the water... then how would you explain a friend of mine had small worms coming out of her feet while in the foot bath.

My husband and I have a ionic foot bath.

We use the same water, salt. His water is black/brown and mine will be yellow to orange, sometimes I get black/brown. He feels good or no difference in energy levels after, while I am drained for up to a week but I have a relieve in leg heaviness. Note that we do these baths one right after the other. We have noticed the chlorine smell.. But only when we have no sediments and the water is barely changed.... when this happens my energy is not drained.

My husband always has far more sediment in the water then I do... he is healthy and smaller than I am.

So what is happening for sure... I don't know but some people swear by it. Some say the colour of the water is not important but the ionizing in the body is what is promoting detox.

Replied By Rachael (Scottsville, Ky, Usa) on 09/21/2012

First, let me inform you that there are lots of different foot detox machines on the market. Some ONLY oxygenate the blood, some ONLY change your PH balance, some actually do what they claim to do. Second, the proper way to use the machine(if you get the right one), depends on how bad your body is. You need to use the machine 2-3 times a week until you get a clear reading, then you only need to use it once a month, every other month, or when you feel you need it. You will get a better reading by the third use. My third use the bottom of my feet started to itch just in certain spots, when my friend raised my feet to clean them off, I have very large parasites stuck to my feet just in the spots that were itching and one of them was only half way out. So anyone who says that skin in impermeably (which I just read an article on foot detox scams) is an idiot. You pick up worms and parasites by walking around barefoot and stepping on them, you can get them if a dog licks you. So, common sense tells us that if you can get them thru the skin, you can get rid of them through the skin. DUH! I have MS so I have done lots of medications and extra strong steroid treatments through IV. I was sick for 2 months with every bit of stomach trouble you can imagine. I ended up in the ER twice where they gave me 2 antibiotics that didn't work, made me sick and caused a severe reaction to my MS medicine. My first ionic foot bath showed lots of parasites and worms(I have lots of animals that I care for and clean up after). It was at a MS support group where they came and offered this trial. Me, my boyfriend, and 2 other people had parasites and worms, the other 7 showed no signs of them. Everyones water was different. I have done 4 treatments so far but it is going to take a while to clean me out. My worst problem is my stomach so that is what my water is showing most of, but I had a lot of blue in the right spots showing that it was cleaning some of my brain, it finally started cleaning my lungs and blood, and it showed her signs of my high blood pressure. I am waiting for it to get to my thyroid where I have had a single cyst on one side for 5 years. It was biopsied 4yrs ago and 2yrs ago it stopped growing. I haven't had it checked in 2yrs and I am due for an ultrasound, but I am hoping this will take care of it first. The lady I go to works with several doctors, 1 I know is an oncologist, who sends his patients to her when they have chemo. She is making a difference and she only charges $25 a visit and she doesn't charge people when she knows they are on hard times and can't afford it. She also treats many people from our Amish communities.

So what is it gonna hurt to try it for a while and see if it helps? Just be careful which machine you use. Only a few of them actually do the full detox. The reason you do your feet is in 30minutes your blood will run from the bottom of your feet, through your whole body then back down to your feet. So it picks up the negative ions, circulates it through your whole body and anything that sticks to these negative ions gets pulled back out through your feet. If you do it too long at one sitting or too close together you can do harm to your body. You will pull too much at once and your body needs to slowly get use to being clean slowly. Once you get all the "gunk" out of your body then your body's natural healing properties can start to work because nothing is blocking it. God created our bodies with amazing abilities, and healing itself is one of them, block too many foreign things block our bodies ability to work properly.

I don't want to offend anyone, but if you don't believe it works then don't use it. If it helps you, then by all means do it. What will it hurt? And most of the people who say it doesn't work has never been in a shape where doctors are no longer able to help and willing to try anything to some relief even if it doesn't cure everything.

Replied By Robyn (Melbourne, Australia) on 09/22/2012

Rachael, are you allowed to mention a brand. I've spent a house on treatments, supplements, home remedies. Im living in a car when Im not allowed in a car because Ive lost my licence. Because I cant go inside... there is new paint. Ive spent this last week looking, renting or buying it doesnt matter - everyone paints or recarpets. This is just 1 thing that has made me so sick. Ive spent my whole life looking for somewhere to live. Im so over it I cant tell you but Id give a foot detox machine a go. The patches I used on my feet always used to come off black. I know Im toxic but Ive been detoxing for years!! I just wish something would work.

Replied By Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 09/22/2012

Hi Rachael, I can testify about the foot detox machine being very effective. I was introduced to it at a chiropractor's office several years ago at this point, and couldn't believe the difference I felt after a treatment. But, at $50 a pop, I was determined to find my own machine. There are very expensive ones but I spent about half a day scouring the internet and finally found one. It wasn't expensive at all (at least, relatively speaking! ) My entire family benefited from it. When one of us felt as if we were getting sick, in their feet would go and that would abate the oncoming illness immediately. It was so amazing, my dad ordered one, I had drs. order them from me, friends came over to use it and then would buy their own. I know there are many that doubt this but I have seen first hand how effective it is. And yes, if you don't believe in it, then don't try it. Here's to health, Lisa

Replied By Robyn (Melbourne, Australia) on 09/22/2012

Lisa, can you mention brand? Can you tell me where to find your post with the link about supplements? I appreciate some are synthetic and a stressed body (like mine) could have trouble metabolising them. I am taking mostly what Ted suggests although I've read somewhere here that lysine can be hard on the liver. You say you don't take any supplements. I don't trust our food. Because I'm so toxic I've read detox or die. And there's a truck load of supplements she recommends.

Replied By Robyn (Melbourne, Australia) on 09/24/2012

Wow! These are really expensive. Not only the electricity but the plastic they are made of could very well upset my body - dont like buying anything I cant smell first.. Been stung so many times. Do you have any other suggestions. Placing my feet in a bucket of himalayan salts? I dont understand how the ions work? Once Im on the computer because it electricutes me I go a bit brain dead.

Replied By Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 09/25/2012

Robyn, if you can soak your feet in saltwater, it certainly helps. Dunno if it will do what a foot detox machine does, but it can only help. If you can tolerate it.

Replied By Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 09/26/2012

Hi Robyn, Well, relatively speaking, after doing a lot of research on these, they are not that expensive. Although, when I first searched, it was about 6 years ago so perhaps, that has changed. Anyway, yes, this machine for you wouldn't work which is why I said I was aware you would most likely have issues with it. I think Mmsg's suggestion is a really great one although it would not do the same thing as the foot detox machine.

One other suggestion I have is to get the foot detox pads as those are very effective. I remember Timh would talk about using them often. I used them a long time ago after being introduced to them from my Asian massage therapist. They are common in Asian culture but I know they are available widely now. I used to get mine in Chinatown. Best to you Robyn. I know your path is difficult. Lisa

Replied By Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/27/2012

As for the machines, to keep cost down, you can order the machine without a basin (which you can purchase for a few dollars at your local housware store) or liners or salt. The machine will usually come with at least 2 arrays (the coil that goes into the water). I have used a spa since 2008 w/ marginal success as I usually experience a detox crises (pancreatitis). Lately I have made some in-roads on the parasite infestation and I do 2 oil pulling immediately fallowing a session, which I can cheer for no more overload. Most of the manufacturers give warning on the very first few sessions as can be toxic overload. Evidently many of the negative ions remain in the body (and circulation) after the session and for several days hence.

A good sauna or steam room sweat treatment works well fallowing detox sessions, as do hot mineral baths. In most people, the toxic overload isn't a problem after the first 4-10 sessions. I have done several hundred and still need to fallow w/ one of the several clean-up methods just mentioned.

As an adjunct, I often dose 1 grm Vit-C plus 50 mg grapeseed extract 15 min prior and sometimes 3 caps Dr. Christopher's "Red Clover Combination". If one experiences Liver toxicity fallowing sessions (as I have), NAC plus Milk Thistle Seed extract will be necessary for a day or two. Drink plenty liquids! Detox pads work very well fallowing spa sessions. Maybe more Melatonin before retiring to boost antioxidant protection.

Replied By Laurie (Nanaimo, B.c.) on 03/21/2018

I agree that it is a good idea to try this out. I bought a homemade unit about 12 years ago, used it for awhile then forgot about it. But, I have been reading about how neurological illnesses like Lyme and MS involve parasites and/or bacteria, like borrelia. I have been diagnosed with Lyme. So, I decided to haul out my ionic foot bath. This morning I had parasites come out of the bottom of my feet. Some are thin, white and stringy looking others are short, white and fat. One was stuck halfway out of the side of my foot. I actually did see this same phenomenon the last time I used the machine several years ago. Flukes also came out then. As well, my friend had the stringy white parasites come out using my machine. The metal on my machine was starting to corrode and I was worried it wouldn't work properly. But, it is still affecting the parasites. So, I am going to keep using it. I hope everyone gives it a try. Just get a machine that works. I cannot advise you on which one, because the man who made mine is deceased.

I did a second treatment and this time the water had a lot of white sort of curds. Never seen that before. I guess something is moving.

Now I am doing a green clay and MSM foot bath. We shall see what happens. I am trying to use the stuff I already have, which others are recommending.

I do have a headache from my footbath treatments. I know that activated charcoal will help. So, I'll go get some:)

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