Tom J. (USA) on 03/05/2008
In an article you state "To quote from the article: "The idea behind ingesting hydrogen peroxide stems from a now-discredited theory that cancer and AIDS thrive on a lack of oxygen in the body." ....
Upon further investigation I have found studies that discredit the claim that cancer thrives on a lack of oxygen on the body. I reference you to Aisenberg, A. Energy Pathways of Hepatoma No. 5123. Nature 191 pages 1314-1315. 1961.
I would also like to reference you to http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/oxygen.html
I have checked a number of these sources and have found them to be valid. I do not intend to argue the claims of the effectiveness of H2O2 used by some of your subscribers, as it clearly has worked for them. Rather I wish to argue the means by which it is effective. H2O2 is rapidly degraded by normal elements in the body, superoxide dismutase for instance. Any amount of H2O2 taken into the body is quite negligable, and furthermore has no appreciable affect of O2 concentrations in the blood. Tom
Replied By Joyce (Joelton, TN) on 03/06/2008
I have, and I'll share some of it with you. After reading about oral and IV hydrogen peroxide therapy several years ago and the results obtained, I tried the oral route. Yuck! & my stomach rebelled. Not wanting to go the IV route, I quit it. After reading about Bill's inhalation route and realizing that if he was still around to write about it, (my thanks to you Bill) it wasn't likely to kill me outright), I tried it. Again, thanks to you, Bill, no untoward effects, and it did loosen up and thin the glue (mucus) in my head and chest so I could get it out. Now that I have found it to be safe and somewhat effective, I won't hesitate to recommend it to anyone else, nor will I hesitate to continue using it. How I wish I had known about this a few years back when I caught pertussis (whooping cough) and my favorite cough syrup (half ACV/half honey)wasn't as effective as it usually was. I must have drank 3 pints of it- can't say that it wasn't working since I am still here to tell you about it- but there was several times times that I came very close to dialing 911 and hoping they got here in time.
I remember when my now grown son developed a simple ring worm in the right temporal area which wosened with use of an ointment that had worked in the past. I took him to the family doctor, told him what I used that just worsened it - passing that one up he tried several others with the same results, over next 3-4 weeks, then referring us to 2 of Nashville's prominent prominent dermatologists.
By the time we got to the derrmatologists, his ringworm had developed into a kerion (much bigger and with some hair missing, and pus pockets through out the affected area. After both of them looking at it, one of them said "a cat ringworm or I'll take down my shingle". Several weeks later, still going to the dermatologists, and still worsening with their treatment, I received a culture report from the state health dept. that said "no pathogenic fungi". You just don't know how close I came to putting a hammer in my purse for the next scheduled appt. and telling him I was going to help him take down his shingle!
Upon returning home, my lovely neighbor who watched the other 3 children while we made another expensive trip to the dermatologists, looked at his kerion and said, "the old folks just rubbed ring worms with green walnuts. (meaning the green hulls on black walnuts). Although it was late fall, we managed to find about 3 walnuts with green hulls. Immediately after they came in the door, I sliced a little bit off one walnut and rubbed the open area all over that kerion, repeating it a second time before putting him to bed. I could see a big improvement the next morning. On his next derm appt. a couple of days later, the dermatologists looked and said "well, its finally looking better" to which I replied "yes, green walnuts work real well, don't they?" Looking surprised, he remarked ("yes, but they burn real bad". Angry by now because he apparently knew this and hadn't bothered to tell me about an effective treatment, I said exactly what I thought - "Hellfire man, haven't you ever noticed the tears rolling down this child's face when you were poking around in those pus pockets with needles. He didn't do that while I was applying the green walnut". We weren't told to make another appointment. I long since forgave him for not telling me, becaused I now realize that the strongest union in the country (American Medical Assn.) goes after any MD found recommending something they have no control over. Neither will the pharmaceutical companies tell you about anything they can't patent. It's job security! You have to go to places like Earth Clinic or lovely neighbors to glean such useful information.
Several years later, this same neighbor told me I should take take poke berries for severe joint pain. I then asked her if she was trying to kill me because I had always been told that they were poison. She replied that they never hurt her aunt who had been taking them for years, still getting about in her 80's. When she didn't back down after I reminded her that if anything happened to me she had to finish raising my children, I decided to try them. Very effective and no side effects at all. Very remarkable, as you know, if you have been keeping up with the class action lawsuits to get damages for the strokes, heart attacks, etc. from the makers of Viox! Everybody I have told about this and tried it has had the same improvement without unwanted side effects.
I will warn you that if you decide to try it, swallow them whole - they don't do your taste buds any favors! If you want to research this, a good place to start is the federal government's data base on plants- don't use poke sallet for the common name - type in pokeweed. You find some amazing things are contained in these so-called weeds that God and Mother Nature grows wild for us to pick and take for free. You might also be surprised at the people who have been and still researching this lowly weed and what they have found. The pharmaceutical companies can keep their preparations that they have isolated from the plant extracts and developed a synthetic version that they can patent & make a fortune on - thanks to pokeberries, I am still able to get out and gather my own pokeberries, keeping the failsafe ingredients, that prevent the unwanted side effects that the synthetic versions cause! I am thankful for the results and I don't care whether it may come partly from the placebo effect or whether its all from the chemicals in the plants or HP. It works, and I never argue with success! Nor do I argue with the creator of that plant, for he/she is smarter than any one scientist or any group of scientist.
Have fun researching those plants, Tom. I did and still do!
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