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Patricia (Marietta, Georgia Usa) on 06/19/2010

My son, age 31 has had acute pancreatitis attacks for the last 2.5 years. Has had to go to the hospital numerous times. Doctors don't know what causes it...any suggestions. Prior to this time he has always been very healthy. He went on the Atkins Diet about 7 years ago..could this be a root cause. He has had tests and they can't diagnose any causes.

Replied By Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 06/19/2010

Atkins diet is based on acid forming foods and the pancreas is a large reservoir of alkaline substance. The pancreas needs alkaline substances to protect itself and thus the Atkins diet is likely to be one of the causes of acute pancreatitis. The remedy, I believe, is to rebuild the lost bicarbonates by taking baking soda, at 1/2 teaspoon two or three times a day [Ed note: mixed with 8 oz of water] after meals about 30 minutes. It takes about two weeks to notice improvement as the body tries to get the bicarbonate to its normal level. It should be noted that weight loss is due more to dietary intake of proteins rather then Atkin's diet per se. However proteins breakdown into amino acids, and the meat products are high in phosphate and they are cancer causing. If the body has insufficient ability to neutralize the acid causing meats, the pancreas get damage. This brings to possible autoimmunity disorder, where one methods I used to reduce them is taking some borax (boron) supplementation, such as 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of drinking water for one week. A daily dose of 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in a cup of water will help increase the salinity as a way of raising the body's immune system. Thereafter, once two weeks has passed, the baking soda should still be continued, to at least 2 times a day to keep the pancreas fully bathed.

If weight loss is desired, there is a much simpler protocol, just avoid the sugars, fats and carbohydrates. When Dr. Atkins died, he did have a high cholesterol level. So obviously fatty liver can be from high fat meats, and fatty liver can occur. Hence granulated lecithin 1 teaspoon twice a day is taken also to restore liver to it's normal state, by removing the fats using a fat emulsifiying lecithin. In any case if you want to market any latest weight loss fad, it has to be complicated enough that people will buy book, too simple is simply unmarketable. Weight gain is generally seen as too much sugar in the system is converted to glycogen and fats, and fats are simply that, the body has great difficulty converting fats to energy, while proteins has little or no energy content and hence doesn't make you fat in general. However, as in all sugar, carbohydrate and protein they make your body acid, and the first organ to go is the pancreas since that's the major organ that has the most bicarbonates and hence are sensitive to acid forming food.

In addition, there are key amino acid more directly lated to weight loss, these include, l carnitine and often taken together with alpha lipoic acid, but also glutamine and glycine, and now and then arginine and lysine. These are the common supplements I used for weight loss. Certain amino acid are inhibitory and act as appetite suppressant such as taurine and glycine. Some minerals are appetite suppressants such as boron that I see most often. I don't generally use excitotoxins such as phenylalanine as it tends to damage the nervous system and weight back come back with a vengence. That's cause these excitotoxins damages the nervous system by overexciting them. The same can be said for monosodium glutamate, in low amounts they increase appetite in high amounts they have opposite effect, but that damages the hypothalamus and causes lifelong obesity. This is why scientist inject MSG into weanling rats so they can become obese. The same effect is also true whenever vaccinations are given to babies and they sometimes do add monosodium glutamate into these vaccinations.

One particular mineral besides boron that acts as mineral appetite suppressant is the zinc. Preferably I used zinc acetate, other forms such as zinc sulfate tend to induce vomiting. I believe it's the sulfate, and can be found also in epsom salt such as magnesium sulfate. Some may not be effected, but quite many Thais here seems to initiate vomiting after taking them in two or three hours will initiate vomiting. Generally zinc acetate is taken for only 50 mg per day for only one week, then I just stop them so that there's no exccessive zinc buildup and may take it again whenever the need arise a month or two.

EC: Incidentally, Ted (aka Parhatsathid Napatalung) was just quoted in Dr. Sircus' newsletter yesterday on this very subject! Here's the link to the article entitled, "The Pancreas, Bicarbonate and Diabetes" http://blog.imva.info/?p=649#arrive. Ted is quoted in the 2nd paragraph.

Replied By Janet (Poynette, Wisconsin, Usa) on 06/20/2010

Thank you, Ted, for your comments on acid forming foods. I suffered several attacks of acute pancreatitis over a period of about 6 months before I discovered what was causing it. I would get symptoms soon after eating 1 tablespoon of ground flaxseed (which I ground myself). My daughter used the same product with no problems so I don't think it was contaminated. I have read that raw seeds and grains (that have not been cooked or sprouted) contain a growth inhibitor that require pancreatic enzymes to break down and digest so I came to the conclusion that I may be depleted of some of these enzymes. I am 61 years old this happened about 5 years ago, I have never had these symptoms before or since (I now avoid raw flaxseed meal) and I have never had a problem with indigestion (always considered myself to have a 'cast iron stomach'). I have eaten other raw nuts and seeds and have had no reaction. What do you think?

Thank you,
Janet

Replied By Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 06/20/2010

Should the bicarbonate be diluted in water?

EC: Yes, always! We'll insert that into Ted's post.. thanks for catching the omission.

Replied By Shawn (Youngstown, Ohio) on 06/09/2011

around 85% of acute pancreatitis cases are caused by alcohol... Whether long term abuse or a night of binge drinking. smoking can also aggrivate the pancreas.

i have had chronic pancreatitis since 2005. I have also been hospitalized around 40 times for acute pancreatitis. I did not drink but did smoke. it took six years of testing and hospitalizations before doctors in pittsburgh at UPMC determined what the root cause of my attacks were. I have pancreas divism. basically, the duct that pancreatic enzymes flow through to reach the duodenum does not work. my enzymes flow through an auxillary duct which is very narrow compared to the main duct. this duct becomes blocked and the enzymes flow back into the pancreas and actually start digesting the pancreas. pancreas divism is not all that uncommon and usually won't cause acute pancreatitis by itself. pittsburgh did dna gene testing and determined that I have a mutated spink1 gene. this gene along with the divism keeps causing me to have acute pancreatitis over and over. there is no cure but I periodically have stents placed into my pancreatic duct to ensure enzyme flow.

pancreatitis has become more common over the past 15-20 years, especially in men. for people who don't drink alcohol, diet is probably the main cause. a low fat diet helps to keep the pancreas from working too hard. also, foods that are more difficult to digest like red meats should be minimized. there's no need to go full on vegetarian or vegan, but just limiting the amount of all meats in one's diet will be beneficial.

also, there are supplements with pancreatic enzymes that are helpful. anything with amylase, lipase, and protease can be taken to help digest food and keep the pancreas from having to work too much.

diet and supplements are good starts and can really help minimize pancreatic episodes. however, pancreatitis is very serious and there is no substitute for medical care by a specialist... And not a GI doctor, a pancreas specialist. I actually know more about acute and chronic pancreatitis than my family doctor.

Replied By Adam (South Lake Tahoe, Ca) on 02/10/2012

Thank you so much for posting this I've been having pancreatitis attacks in the last years and since ive found out I've quit drinking alcohol and it's still is happening. I've gone to the doctor and they want to send me to a G.I specialist at UC Davis. I've been to the hospital 3 times in the past 5 months and I've changed my diet no fatty foods minimum meats, no red meats..... I'm trying the aloe vera juice, papaya juice, I'm praying that this works. Thank you so much you've made my day!

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 05/14/2015

Pancreatitis can also be caused by at least two species of Fluke parasites as described by Hulda Clark. One may go yrs w/ no symptoms until anything can trigger a crisis. Alcohol would be, as described above, one of the worst triggers. Alkalizing remedies will be needed. A combination of Black Walnut/Clove/Wormwood plus additional Oregano, Chaparral, and Myrrh to kill any parasites. Dr Christopers P-14 herbal formula will very much help the condition (rotate w/ above herbs). I have also used Magnet therapy and Zapping w/ very good results.

Supplementing Zinc & Niacin will help alcohol detox.

Replied By Elena (California) on 10/19/2015

I'm glad I went on this site so I can get better educated what is Acute Pancreatis and why was this happening to me. I was diagnosed with Acute Pancreatitis I had my first episodes last week it felt like I was passing stones, but all that was taken out ten years ago. They took all kinds of test the conclusion was that all natural herbs that I was taking is what might of been the cause not 100% because I don't drink or smoke but I do take alot of nature herb teas that what they think was the cause. I always been more or less a healthy person I take my herbalife shakes, protein and tea, it's when I added more natural tea's is when I started getting sick. If any one has a meal plan that I can follow please forward to me please.

Adam, please let me know how you felt after taking Papaya juice and aloe vera.

Replied By Sheri M (USA) on 12/21/2021
Drink Green smoothie by Victoria Butenko. Cut back on fats, oils, and refined sugar. Blend 75% greens such as kale or collard greens with fruit and 20oz water in vitamin or high speed blender. Drink the pitcher for breakfast and lunch, you will feel lighter and in a week or so your symptoms will have improved dramatically. Stay away from alcohol and there is a list of drugs such as antibiotics that can cause acute pancreatitis, so research the list, you might have a reaction to one of these meds doing a quick google search for Drug Induced Acute Pancreatitis.

Replied By Kayla (We) on 01/28/2024
Just beware that everything marked organic may not be. My doctor had a patient that was young male started using a walker and he was declining. She began running a series of tests. a test revealed high glyphosate. The doctor asked the patient about his diet. Apparently, he had been drinking like six cups of organic green tea well the organic green tea was sprayed with glyphosate. Many times organic food can be sprayed with glyphosate, Anyhow the patient stopped the organic green tea and was cured no longer needed the walker. It is best to buy third party tested or farmer that you trust.

Replied By Charlie (Vancouver, WA) on 03/26/2024
This might be worth noting, my doctor told me about a patient in his 30's that was using a walker. The MD ran tests and found high glyphosate. The doctor asked about his diet, he had started drinking ORGANIC green tea about a year ago, and he started drinking it 5 to 6 cups a day. Got him off the green tea and detoxed him he no longer needs the walker and went back to work . Just because it states it is organic doesn't mean it is so be cautious. Third party testing is important.

Replied By Kate (Uk) on 01/23/2016

HI - both my children (age 9 and 12) have had repeated attacks of pancreatitis. The 9 year old has pancreatic divisum but not the 12 year old and they are both positive for spink1 mutation. They are on low fat diets, take creon and exercise very regularly. We are waiting to be referred for surgical intervention. Does anybody know if there are any forums available to parents with children with pancreatitis? It's a very isolating place to be and would be weirdly comforting to talk to somebody else who is going through this. My husband and I keep this much to ourselves, we don't want to frighten the kids although frankly it terrifies us both. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Replied By Wendy (AZ) on 06/08/2023
If you search on facebook there are a number of support groups for pancreatitis. Your children need pancreatitis specialist, and best thing for them to address that awful pain is an auto islet cell transplant. There are a number of centers that do this transplkant. I've had it for over 12 years, and am waiting to have the procedure done myself. Our center closed for a number of years, but is now up and running again in Tucson Banner Hospitial. I'm seeing Dr. Harland. He's very nice, and I do believe they see out of state patients as well. Other locations include Baylor in TX. MN, Nebraska, and MA all have pancreas centers. The FB groups hold a wealth of information. This said I would still take all the natural health recommendations one can get. I juice dandelion greens, spinach in equal amounts cucumbers, and fuji, or similar apples. It helps give energy and doesnt hurt me. I also eat soft foods in small amounts, like applesauce, puddings, veggies, soups, and can occassionally have a soft bread/cake treats, or ice cream. I can also do chocolate for treats. I use enemeez plus enemas for relief of gases and stool that causes presssure, and use miralax to keep stool soft. Thats important, for helping the pain. I also use domperidone for gasteoperisis. That's been very helpful. I am now doing antifungals like ivermectin to help with any viral condition, and for cleanses. I find it helps me a lot! I just feel better when Im on it. I have alot more to learn and expierment with in the natural health remedies, so that's why I stopped by today. This is my two cents on the subject. I realize I'm replying to an old post, but hopefully this might help others as well. Pancreatic conditions are horrific. Hopefully together we can find what works to heal, help, or cure these conditions.

Replied By Alex (Montreal) on 11/10/2016

Hey TimH,

I hope I can get a reply from you :). I also have pancreatitis and have had good results with black walnut. I see you use the hulda clark protocol with wormwood/cloves/black walnut. My problem is that as soon as I stop taking the black walnut my enzymes start getting trapped in my pancreas again and start to swell. So I was wondering if you experienced the same? And also how long do you take this stuff for because technically black walnut and wormwood are for sort term only.

Thanks in advance.

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 11/11/2016

Alex: It appears there may be more organs involved than the Pancreas. A stagnate & infected gallbladder can cause pancreatitis so you may need to do a Gallbladder Cleanse. The Liver will need some support also. Take a "Milk Thistle Combination" herbal product and also eat or juice Beets regularly.

Back to the P and paras. I strongly advise a Basic Hulda Clark Zapper to be used as whole body and specifically in the problem area. The Zapper will increase the power of the herbs. Also consider adding the other herbs I mentioned in previous post to strengthen the original Black Walnut combo.

This should prove beneficial but if you still suspect infestation & infection you should try the best herbal combo called "Humaworm" which is awarded many successful testimonials.

Let us know of your progress.

Replied By Sher (Vancouver) on 12/18/2016

Hi Tim, I just had a blood test done and it found high amounts of amylase and lipase from pancreas and salivary glands and low white blood cell count. About a month ago I did a carrot juice fast for 9 days and then slowly introduced broth, and roasted vegetables, etc. back into my diet and am not sure it that is the cause of my troubles or something else. I also use to drool at night and noticed that I have been having a dry mouth and sometimes dry eyes during the day. I am unclear as to what to do to correct this.

Should I fast to give my pancreas a chance to heal or eat a low cholesterol diet to start? Do I take the 1/2 tsp baking soda in 8 oz water 2-3x/day 30 min after a meal, along with the alkalizing remedy (black walnut, clove, wormwood with oregano, chaparral, and myrrh, with zinc and niacin supplements to detox alcohol, and the 1/2 cup of both aloe and papaya juice 2x/day (does it have to be fresh food juiced or can I buy the juices?), and take 1/4 tsp borax in a liter of water for a week? Will I need to cleanse the liver and kidney after that's done or along side that? I started with taking 1/2 lemon juiced, 1 tbsp ACV, 1 tsp honey, 1/2 tsp tumeric powder, pinch cinnamon, pinch chilli pepper powder, pinch rosemary powder in a glass of warm water after waking up, and the 1 oz of lemon juice and olive oil 2x/day on an empty stomach (but it hasn't produced any stones) and have been adding 1/3 tsp burdock root powder, 1/3 tsp turkey rhubarb root, 1/3 astragulus root powder, 1 tsp honey, along with the heated liquid from 1 tsp ground milk thistle that was boiled and simmered for 20 min in a warm glass of water before going to bed.

I truly value your expertise and appreciate any help you can offer.

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 12/20/2016

First, do you filter your water, air? It appears you need to support your Thyroid by supplementing Coconut Oil and Iodine. Skipping one meal fast is usually a good thing, and more live foods/juicing is easier on digestion. Alkalizing is often tricky as it varies with the severity of the individual condition. You can purchase test strips to measure the PH of Saliva. Infection in general will cause acidosis but die-off will cause much acidosis so you will need to alkalize fallowing the herbal para cleanse which needs done 2x day. Also take one spoon Milled Flax Seed to keep Colon clean. Your Kidney cleanse list looks good and you report no stones so postpone that and concentrate on the Pancreas. Try to find Dr Christopher's P-14 herbal Pancreas formula. Solaray has a different type product but effective called Pancreas Caps that contains Raw Pancreas Substance unlike the P-14. Raw Liver and Raw Pancreas tablets will help much. Continue with ACV and Lemon. Take a good Multivitamin?mineral plus extra Chromium to help metabolism in general and specifically burning carbs & sugars. If you don't see any improvement soon you may need to do Zapping to kill infections. Calcium 2-AEP will help incorporate minerals into cells to improve salivation/dehydration. Hope this helps and hope to hear back as to your progress.

Replied By Sher (Vancouver) on 12/21/2016

Hi Tim, many thanks for you detailed follow-up!!! I use a Santevia water filter and am not filtering my air at home. After I wrote you I stumbled upon Dr. Christopher's herbal legacy website. I read the info and started the body purification program yesterday morning and bought the herbs for the lower bowel formula and made the pills last night. Can I just add the pancreas formula and the multivitamin/mineral plus extra Chromium to this regime or do I need to wait until finish the 3 day? Again many thanks!!!

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 12/22/2016

S: Since nutrient absorption requires a healthy gut, do finish the cleanse first. Depending on the severity of infection, you may need to rotate the herbal pancreas and herbal intestine formulas. You can rotate these on a daily basis. When things appear normal again, supplement a good Probiotic to maintain healthy bacteria which translates in good health all round.

Replied By Barb (Ga) on 05/15/2017

There are organizations devoted to the pancreas. Search your state for help. I remember seeing info on children with pancreatitis but no clue where it was. Keep up hope. Do your homework.

Replied By Rachel (Uk) on 06/01/2017

My son has chronic pancreatitis, he is 19 and it took over 11 years to get an accurate diagnosis. We were unable to find any real info on UK sites for children with pancreatitis and yes it is very frightening to be told your child has this especially when you read up on this disease. We have found a low fat diet is essential, when a flare up happens my son now avoids any food to allow the pancreas to rest. On occasions he has been hospitalised in order for him to be hydrated and he has had a lot of surgery. You have to educate yourself, your GP is unlikely to know much about the condition. There is far more info and support in the US for children with this condition so check out their sites and info. I am so sorry you are have two children with this but do the research and don't be scared to question the advice of the hospital or consultants. Also find out the most experienced consultant you can, under the NHS you have a right to choose and book ie you can request to be seen by any dr anywhere in the UK so find the best and don't just accept the local hospital unless they really are a specialist unit.

Replied By Art (California ) on 06/01/2017

Please read about the pancreatic protective effects of melatonin.

Melatonin has a very good safety profile and is naturally produced by the body suggesting lower potential for allergic reaction. Here in the states, it is readilly available and inexpensive. Melatonin acts as a potent antioxidant that scavenges multiple forms of radicals in the body, but also improves the bodies own highly potent antioxidant system while potentially helping to reduce an excessive inflamatory response. Melatonin is also protective of the major organs. Here are a few studies suggesting the benefit of melatonin for pancreatitis that you can print and discuss with your doctor. :

http://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/18/5/1014

https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/453164

http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/full/v20/i45/16902.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25100131

http://www.hbpdint.com/fileup/HTML/2014-13-346.shtml

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24251674

Lastly and importantly, melatonin also has studies to show that it can be gut protective:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28503116

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27919824

Art

Replied By Kayle (Salem) on 02/13/2024

Ted is correct here, we went on a three day. water fast where you only drink water three days every week for a month. I was in keto since I checked my urine with keto stick. Keto is NOT for everyone! The last week the upper part of my stomach burned, queasy feeling then aching in the upper diagram . Felt uncomfortable to try to sleep on my stomach a little pressure. My doctor ran full bloodwork, CAT Scan with contrast, X-ray and they found nothing. Checked for H pylori and Cdiff all negative. The doctor suggested a water IV with electrolytes. I declined and just increased my water intake and started taking electrolytes. Told me to see a GI doctor if it continued. I started doing Ted's alkalizing formula three times a day. Also drank ginger water and aloe vera juice with papayas juice three times a day. Castor oil pack 2x a day . Along with water with drop or two of peppermint oil to calm my stomach and a couple tablespoons of lactose free organic kefir and taking probiotics daily. Calming simple diet for a fews, like Ayurvedic type with just kitcharee and started eating kimchee.

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