Replied By Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 03/05/2009

My findings I found is that short term use (exceeding one or more week) lead to a neurological damage in dogs as permethrin was found in the dogs blood that lead to sudden loss of appetite, vomiting and mild epileptic seizures. The most serious I found was weight loss and loss of appetite, along with general weakness. As to the tea tree oil, unfortunately I wasn't able to find any problems with its use.

The permethrin is currently assumed NOT to go through the skin, unfortunately they do go to the skin quite readily if the the carrier base are oil based or cream based and goes through the skin, as I understood, in a matter of hours. Most oil based chemicals, even including tea tree, but more so with permethrin since they damage the neurological process directly that leads to a sudden case of vomiting and then followed by a mild seizures for only permethrin, but not tea tree oil in normal usage amount. Even the person who applied it, namely me, I also got nauseated from using permethrin based dog shampoo and realized early on I had to stop use if the requirement involved the use of longer then 5 days otherwise the body can't detoxify.

In any event, there IS a way around it, since no one really is going to do anything about this issue, which I am afraid I was a bit late to know about that to save one of the dogs dying from permethrin poisoning. The dog died of a seizure a couple of years back while visiting one of my neighbors. The remedy is hydrogen peroxide 20 drops per 1 liter of water, 3% food grade. The other, that can help (within reason!) is the use of vinegar, which somehow induced vomiting (in dogs) and caused a return to normal appetite.

Unfortunately long term exposure involving heavy neurological damage has limited ability to reverse this condition, but a mild exposure can be reduced by destroying permethrin through either breathing in ozone, and/or the use of hydrogen peroxide drinks, very 2-3 hours for about a day. In the event hydrogen peroxde and/or ozone isn't available, which happens very often in third world countries, then I would settle for vinegar and baking soda remedy. Which is 2 tablespoon of vinegar plus 1/2 teaspoon baking soda (the baking soda is a bit higher here by the usual 1/4), in 1/2 glass of water taken 3 times a day. A vitamin B complex is also helpful. Granulated lecithin 1 tablespoon was also protective, as is some magnesium also.

Few people know permethrin can be absorbed by the skin and checked for its presence within an hour or so after the application. It's also true that any oil based aromatherapy has the same effect transdermally. It is one reason how bisphenol A found in cosmetic products and canned food products get into our system also. In a laboratory findings of a rat where it's stomach were shaved, and lavender oil was applied, then it was sacrificed, the scientists found the presence of lavender in their kidneys. The same is also true for the use of garlic. A fresh clove of garlic, chopped, is placed on the foot of a person. Within 30 minutes to an hour, its possible to detect the presence of garlic in a person's breath even though a person have NOT consumed the garlic. It's this reason why ADHD condition are made much worse after the use of any commercial toiletry products, especially those that contain aldehydes and ketones.

Though information is lacking, its possible to prove that through blood tests for their presence. The same is true in proving aspartame poisoning in detection of methanol content over time increases after their consumption, and given a longer period, the presence of formadehyde from their breakdown in the body system. The secret is in the blood in proving things, not expensive rat studies to prove tumor, these research can be altered, but not a blood test.

In any event, I believe hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and vitamin B complex will be most helpful. If none of those are available, permethrin are also destroyed by both UV and ozone exposure too. But their damages to neurological system maybe damaging, even in low concentration even for humans.

Ted

Replied By Dianna (Austin, Tx) on 03/06/2009

when my best friend had scabies and couldn't use the prescription cream and treatment from the doctor this is what she used and had immediate relief. also i was helping her apply the orange oil and i had first put some on myself (the spray) and i didn't get scabies from her.

try it it works! and it is very cheap - which is good also. you can buy orange essential oil in the health food section of your grocery oil - where you would find lavender oil. also google orange oil for scabies and they also make a commerical spray that is similar made of the inside peel of the orange - the chemical is called D'Limonene.

Replied By Not So Itchy Guy (Indianapolis, Indiana) on 09/08/2009

In doing some research I came across several remedies that others are offering up as what worked for them. The simplest and most natural way that I have had success with has been using 10% sulfur soap, from the drug store. As soon as I used it the first time I noticed a HUGE difference. In the four areas of my body where they are showing the lesions seemed to diminish as well as the itching was lessened. The sulfur kills the scabies mite, but not the eggs so a couple months using this soap is what is recommended.

It's very simple, twice a day you get in the shower, make the water as hot as you can stand it, then get a wash rag and take the soap and build up a good lather with it. Apply the soapy rag to the affected areas of your skin and scrub it in. They recommend you do this twice a day until the rash disappears and then after it's gone you should do it at least once a week for a couple of months. This is what I have been doing and I have to tell you that it's really working for me and the best part is that it's very simple and very accessible for most people by going to the local drug store or even ordering it online. Good luck and I hope this will help someone.

Replied By Justin (Australia) on 02/04/2018

btw what God designed these creatures...i really cant understand that.

Replied By Ellen (GA) on 01/25/2023