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Christine (USA) on 07/20/2023
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How much Kleen-Free Naturally in a 70 gallon bathtub?

Just when I thought things were improving for my client -now I think I might have contracted the demodex. When I first met wih her, she had a cat in the room, which rubbed on me until I asked her to please remove the cat due to my allergies. But now I think I was too late. Today I feel like there is something burrowing/biting into my skin. I want to stop this before it gets a good foothold. I have been doing the borax and hydrogen peroxide baths right from the first day, along with steaming all my clothes, bed and furniture, vacuuming at least once a day and cleaning floors with enzymes and applying DE to floors and to all of the furniture that I don't use. But now I am not sure it has been enough. I can't keep on doing the borax everyday as it is not good for the heart. Hopefully the Kleen-Free will help me get this under control. I would appreciate any info as to how much to see in a bath. Please be kind enough to reply to my plea. Thank you and God Bless you!

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Replied By Gary (Kitchener On) on 07/21/2023

Hi, Christine, The easiest way to get rid of mites, red ants, fleas, spiders, bed bugs is to buy a bag of Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. Make sure it is FOOD GRADE, ONLY. Sprinkle where you think they are, on you at bedtime strip and cover your whole body.Morning shower yourself and so this 2 more nights. They should be all gone, If you have parasites you can put 1/2 teaspoon in warm water in coffee-cup and drink it every night for 90 nights, to kill of the eggs. Almost every farmer use Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth on their livestok. It really kills all little things that I mentioned above.

God Bless Gary

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Replied By Amanda (Tacoma wa) on 08/19/2023

I've been fighting this for two years, my case actually got worse and spread to the rest of my body while doing the klean free baths. My suggestion is to go to the Dr immediately and get on a treatment of oral ivermectin and permithrin cream then start on DIY things like topical cod liver oil, papaya scrubs, and dimithicone gel. Get immune boosting items like fermented beta glucans dandelion tea, bui bui suppliment, ect. Additionally, I like live free bed bug and mite killer for laundry and and spraying around the house it kills them in less than 1min. I have literally tried everything on this list except suspend SC and turpentine. On sensitive areas I use a and d ointment. You need immediate and aggressive medical attention or you could be like me. Good thing is more research is coming out now about treating this condition so research as much new stuff as you can. Best of luck friend.
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Replied By Share (Seattle) on 08/21/2023

Hello,

Forgot to mention that to get rid of these types of infections one must also treat their environment (house, yard, car, work environment):

Repellent: find an effective bug repellent and use it consistently on yourself and environment to prevent reinfetion if this involves a flying insect or even mites. some people sleep with nano-netting over their beds.

Laundry: depends on the organism. If strongyloides, must boil or iron clothes very well to kill surviving parasites that will penetrate through the skin. Hookworms and some flukes also can do this.

If mites, soak clothes 1 hour in cedarcide solution, enzyme solution, ammonia, borax/soda or borax/salt solution, many other effective solutions. Can add various essential oils to these soaks (e.g., orange, lemon, eucalyptus, tea tree, grapefruit seed).

Best to always iron clothes very well before wearing.

House: spray and vacuum most everything.

Spray solutions: enzymes, essential oils, cedarcide, 91% isopropyl alcohol (kills mites though will ruin some surfaces and very toxic if on the skin), ... there are many effective solutions to spray the environment with. Can also fog the environment with many of these solutions. And/or apply Diatomaceous Earth.

Best to know what organism you are trying to treat to determine the most effective way to treat your environment. Flying insects require additional methods (e.g., screening, zappers, etc...).


Replied By Share (Seattle) on 08/21/2023

Hello,

There are several ways to rid yourself of various ectoparasites or parasites. I like the suggestions in the prior posts. Below are various protocols that worked for us. Depending on the issue, we sometimes alternated them throughout the day. Hope you are able to identify what it is and resolve the issue soon!

1. Kleen Free - Enzymes

This product is not the original solution is used to be. It is not even half as concentrated as the concentrate used to be. This is why many are having treatment failures. We contacted the company when they changed their "coffee dark" concentrate to a VERY weak tea and they responded that they needed to sell more to people who needed it????. It still works if you only use the concentrate straight from the bottle in a spray bottle. Spray this on your skin, rub it in, often throughout the day . This kills many bugs if used frequently. There are other enzyme formulations on the market that are equal or better.

Enzymes are great, they are usually used to dissolve biofilm and even kill some of the parasites if used frequently enough. It is most often used with other treatments such as Ivermectin; Diatomaceous Earth; Anti-Mite Creams such as EmuaidMAX; essential oil blends that kill parasites; sulfur treatments; etc...

2. Ivermectin

Use a 3% cream with 10% DMSO in versa base - this is obtained at a compounding pharmacy. Apply to very clean skin which ideally has had any potential biofilm removed (e.g., abrade the area, apply enzyme then rub/wash off, salicylic acid, etc...). Apply 1-3 times daily and rub in the cream VERY WELL. This alone can resolve the infection. Give it time. Consistency is key. It is best to leave the cream on for a full 12 hours. Some need to apply two layers of Ivermectin cream per application to be more effective allowing each application to dry in-between.

Sometimes it is best to also take Ivermectin orally. Depending on your size and considering any malabsorption issues take anywhere from 12 - 15 - 24 mg daily, check with your physician. There are people taking anywhere from 12 mg twice daily to 15 mg four times daily or more due to severe malabsorption issues from other health conditions.

Some have successfully used other Ivermectin derivatives topically only.

3. Diatomaceous Earth

Only use the real stuff. Many contain mostly fillers. You will know it is the good stuff because it will actually work, you will see results and it feels more gritty on the skin. DE draws any organisms below the skin to the surface when it is briskly rubbed into the skin, this is how it is activated. Then, over time is desiccates the organisms that are brought to the surface. Try to use it as often as possible. DE alone can get rid of some of the parasites if used consistently.

Some find it works better if WET or DRY HEAT is applied, such as overnight. Or, if they apply a "killing" cream first (e.g., Ivermectin, Emuaid, etc...), let it dry for 30-60 minutes, then rub in DE, doing this twice daily.

If taking it orally, the standard dose for an average sized adult is 1 heaping tablespoon x2/day on an empty stomach with 8 oz water. Take this for 90 straight days. Anything less will not be as effective. Most people do see results.

4. EmuaidMAX

The skin must be clean and dry, rub in only a little amount and must rub the cream in VERY, VERY well in order to activate it. Use 2-4 or more times daily depending on the issue. It gets rid of scabies and other mites very well. Along with fungus, viral issues, etc...

This cream is also very soothing, anti inflammatory and an analgesic.

5. Essentil Oils

There are many blends that kill insects and parasites. Must use 2-3 times daily and rub in well. Can alternate with DE and/or enzyme sprays.

Examples:

Purification blend (Citronella, Lavandin, Lemongrass, Myrtle, Rosemary, Tea Tree) followed by Oregano then apply a carrier oil or cream over these - 2-4 times daily.

Straight clove or peppermint can clear scabies if applied 2-4 times daily. Ideal to first prep the skin with enzyme spray, orange oil, grain alcohol, etc...

OTHER insecticidal oils that you can blend: eucalyptus globulus, citronella java, lemongrass citratus, lemon, orange, catnip, copaiba, thyme, tea tree from Australia, rose, tagetes, etc....

A successful blend used by many:

60 drops tea tree, 18 drops Thieves (rosemary, lemon, clove, cinnamon bark, eucalyptus radiata), 18 drops clove, 18 drops lavender, 18 drops oregano (or more), 30 drops peppermint in 1/2 - 1-1/2 oz carrier oil mix such as real olive oil, emu oil, black seed oil or neem oil. Other carrier oils can be used. Experiment to see how strong you prefer your mix. We use a strong mix. Can also add DMSO to the mix.

If the issue is "tough", some first apply oregano neat to the skin (it does burn), wait, and then rub this oil mix over the affected area since some parasites require stronger treatment.

Can also take an essential oil tea to rid body of mites: 1 drop each of clove, black pepper, cardamom and cinnamon bark to warm tea. Drink x4/day. Or add oil into a capsule with a carrier oil.

6. Sulfur Bath & Cream Treatment

This treatment can be effective by itself if used often enough.

Use a 10% sulfur/3% salicylic soap bar. Soak in hot water for 5-10 minutes then create a very rich lather on the skin, leave on the skin for 10-15 minutes. Soap must remain wet during this time to be active and kill organisms so may need to add more wet soap or water. Rinse and repeat. Best results are seen when "soaping up" twice daily.

Some leave a layer of soap on their skin during the day or apply a 10% sulfur cream on the skin twice daily. Neem oil can be added to this.

Best to also take a good type of sulfur and neem leaves orally, 2-3x/day.

Many have cleared their skin of mites using only the sulfur regimen.

Or, they apply one of the treatments listed above, usually a cream.

7. Salt Treatment

Soak areas in a concentrated salt bath for 1 hour daily. Can divide this into two 30 minutes sessions. Continue for 3 weeks or as needed.

Can also use hot salt packs in cheese cloth with turpentine (100% gum) or other anti-parasitic essential oil added to the skin and/or cloth. Hold over area 30 minutes, twice daily. Can leave on longer. It eventually will kill the organisms.

Epsom salts is often combined with other salts or used alone since it is a powerful drawing salt.

Can use salt therapy with other treatments listed above.

NOTE: some parasitic organisms require physical removal when they surface to the skin, this may be uncomfortable though it must be done to remove any layers of organisms and the dead skin that accumulates between the layers. This is sometimes less painful if the organisms are killed first (e.g., ivermectin cream applied).

And, any dry skin needs to be removed to uncover any additional and deeper layers of infection.

8. Other Internal Treatments

Build up the immune system (vits/minerals, greens, herbs, Ayurveda, ...)

Make the body "repellent" to these organisms, e.g., take natural "repellents" consistently and often such as peppermint, garlic, chrysanthemum, biotin, neem, natural sulfurs (MSM), oregano, rose, etc...

9. Other Treatments that have worked for many:

* MMS topical and/or internal

* KEYS skin remedies (e.g., RediCare cream and various KEYS soaps)

* Ozonated Olive Oil Salve

* NuStock - or something similar (pine oil, 76% sulfur, petrolatum). Instructions: leave a thick covered layer on the area for 3 days, it must remain wet to be active so may need to add more of it or some other essential oil to it). Remove covering, clean, and reapply for 3 more days. Repeat until nothing else surfaces.

* Various drawing salves have worked, apply as you would Nustock.

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