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Oska (Uk) on 02/11/2017
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Hello my fellow suffers, I was experience pain at the same time night every few weeks a dull ache and pain nausea and low fever that lasted several hours but in the morning nothing like it was a bad dream. when to the doc who couldn't work out what it was after seeing 3 different ones who kept saying it as acid and prescribed me proton pump inhibitors which reduce acid and bile production, which I never took as I told them I did not suffer from indigestion or acid reflux, im not overweight generally eat healthy and exercise regularly male mid 40 so may be they didn't suspect anything? Then 3 months later had a gallstone attack freighting experience I thought I was going to meet my creator went to A&E did all the usual checks next day felt better so was being discharged when a senior indian nurse said do you have gallstones? didn't know anything about them so did research on line and as soon as read the symptom's BANG in knew it was gallstones, Doc arrange a scan which confirmed I had one 11mm stone and several others. Since the attack taking the apple cider vinegar apple juice and lemon milk thistle turmeric with a bit more healthy fresh fruit and veg no pain at night and 1 or 2 small attack's months apart felling 90% better and a lot fitter but have a slight soreness on my right side and gallbladder that wont completely go away, no matter what I take. After the docs found out they where gallstones they effectively would not offer me any treatment or medication other than removal of the gallbladder which im trying my very best to avoid, iv had a discussion with a particular doc twice and he says gallbladder is not needed and its a great operation to remove it and they will just keep coming back I keep saying to him why would I have this organ if was never needed in the first place? So I was getting a despondent with the situation of constant soreness and interment low pain after 5 months of ACV and lemon grapefruit ect the gallstones where still there presumable as docs wont do a second scan said the soreness is due to gallstone inflamtion I have NOT tried a the lemon and olive oil flush as it doesn't make sense to me as people have reported passing hundreds of stones some 1 to 3 inches in there stools how when the cystic duct is only 5 to 9 mm in diameter on average? Then I took CHANCA PIEDRA non alcoholic Tincture they recommend 5 to 10 drops twice a day in warm water I took 2 drops to test it, that night had a gallstone attack not a bad one but I passed a stone which I felt, I increased the dosage gradually increased to 5/7 drops over the next few days and when sleeping at night on my back felt what could only described as a train of stones or sludge moving down the cystic duct I am still passing them every now and again but the soreness hasten completely gone but do feel better. The CHANCA PIEDRA TEA is better for kidney stones and has the effect of lowering you blood pressure more than the Tincture dose.

Conclusion CHANCA PIEDRA REALY WORKS, however I would cleanse your body for at least a month before you take it. No alcohol which is probably the biggest cause of gallstones plenty of AVC lemon apple ect as you need to be in a position where your gallbladder and internals are healthy and can take the stones passing. Chanca Piedra works by increasing your bile flow and opening your ducts nobody really knows how it works it just dose God knows best, I don't know how many stones I've passed until I have a scan which I'm working on as the doc won't do it and is waiting for me with a scalpel in his hand so will update you. Be Gentle and Patient with your body it takes years sometimes to form gallstones so I can take time to heal Good Luck.

Replied By Bee (New York) on 04/30/2017

Hi everyone,

Question please? I have been expelling large and small gallstones for about a year.. I used the apple cider vinegar and apple juice and chanca piedra tea and some healing tea.. I feel like there were hundreds of stones .. only thing I'm wondering so many and so long coming out does my body just keep making them?? Thank you if anyone knows??

Replied By Mama To Many (Tn) on 05/01/2017

Dear Bee,

I will be interested to hear any other replies! Do you expel the stones during a gall bladder flush or are yours just passing with the Apple Cider Vinegar and Chanca piedra?

I used Apple Cider Vinegar daily for years for my digestion but they never got stones out.

I got many stones over the course of a few months during flushes. Now whenever I have a slight gall bladder twinge, I schedule another flush (about every 6 months.) Recently I was surprised to see a couple of the larger type stones. I too wondered, are these newly formed or old? I think I have read that once you empty the gall bladder of stones, stones from the liver can travel in to the gall bladder. Maybe it takes a while to get all of them from the liver and the gall bladder? But I have also wondered if I am just still making stones.

~Mama to Many~

Replied By Steve (Nv) on 05/01/2017

Yes, your body keeps making stones. Most people have thousands of stones stored in the liver. The problems come when they are a little larger than the ducts they have to pass through, that's when the gall bladder/liver pain comes and GB/liver flushes are needed. Many people go through the life with no issues at all because the stones are small enough that they can pass through unnoticed. So keep going. I find for myself maintence cleanses are needed every other month in order to have normal liver/GB function.

Replied By Bee (New York) on 05/02/2017

Hi Mama..

No I only used the apple cidar vinegar and the tea.. I did not do any flushes at all. I also do lemons and water.... I still have some discomfort but not pain like I had.. funny you should say liver because at times I feel like I see liver stones too...thanks.

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 05/03/2017

Bee: I once had the same problem and mostly resolved by taking Milk Thistle Seed. MTS is best taken with Turmeric Root and Artichoke Leaf.

Consider some Liver building nutrition like Raw or Cooked Chicken or Calf Liver. If you haven't any Mycoplasma infection, take an amino acid supplement of Arginine/Ornithine/Lysine. Since I got the myco I must drop the Arginine but don't function well at all without the Ornithine & Lysine. My Liver function goes flat without the formentioned.

Menthol Cough Drops, which also contain Eucalyptus, are my regular remedy for melting gallstones but if they get too many or too large the flush will be needed.

Not only mycoplasma but fungal infections in general cause increases in LDL Cholesterol and Gallstones so be sure to eliminate these pathogens as much as possible.

Replied By Bee (New York) on 05/07/2017

Hi Tim,

Thank you for the recommendations.. I am eating a lot of raw foods and its helping so I cant do chicken livers.. I am trying to always detox and it helps but it seems to be taking awhile or my body keeps making the stones.. the pain is almost gone now but I do feel stones at times.

I will do the MT as I am already doing the turmeric.. then I read turmeric causes stones. so much confusion.I will try the cough drops.. sounds easy enough.

Next I will work on the liver.. as far as fungus not sure since I eat organic raw fruits and veggies.. but I will def. check into it.

Thank you so much

Replied By Timh (Ky) on 05/08/2017

The herbal combination of Milk Thistle/Turmeric/Artichoke is best, but for Liver/Gall, Artichoke alone is the best of the three. Dr Christopher's "Liver/Gallbladder" formula is excellent.

One of the side effects of low protein diet is the weak liver, so many vegetarians or vegans take Raw Bovine or Calf Liver Tablets. They are sold in most health food stores and have long been a favorite in those seeking strength or longevity as they are one of the superfoods. You must also consider the amino acid Ornithine; it helps me so much in the liver dept. Dr Balk says it is very important for metabolizing lipids in the liver.

A supplement of Choline/Inositol would also help.

Replied By Fmg (Fl) on 06/04/2017

Bee, too much estrogen can cause gallstones, bioidentical hormones. Increasing fiber removes excess estrogen as well as increasing progesterone. Exercise keeps things flowing to prevent the stagnation that causes the stones. Reduce stress - major difference, better sleep reduces stress, lack of sleep causes stones, too.

Replied By Bea (Ny) on 06/07/2017

Thanks fmg and Mama and Tim for your kind responses and anyone else I missed.

Thanks for the info.. I will look into the bio identical hormones..

I do exercise as much as I can...sleeping is on and off and I do tai chi and meditate for stress but yes I do have stress..

Replied By Arden (Atlanta, Georgia) on 09/20/2017

Gallstones are caused by your liver. Attend to your liver.

Replied By Theresa (Virginia) on 03/21/2018

All I can say is Thank you!!! Because it worked! But I also was taking 2T vinegar diluted in water three times a day, Chanca Piedra three times a day and lemon essential oil in a capsule twice a day during my apple fast diet. In-between apples I drank lots of apple juice. 10 hrs after the olive oil-grapefruit juice mixture I passed over 12 stones!

Replied By Arden (Ga) on 03/21/2018

Those things you see "stones" that are floating are not gallstones. That is the olive oil that has solidified. Gallstones will only sink. So be sure, okay! I'm dealing with this problem now. So I understand what you're going through.

Replied By Dee (Uk) on 04/01/2018

Hi, this may be a silly question but, how do you know if you've passed any stones?

I have one 6mm stone which causes me a lot of discomfort. I'm desperately trying to avoid surgery and want to know how to do it naturally. Many Thanks for any advice x

Replied By Anon (Usa) on 04/02/2018

If you use the olive oil/lemon juice/garlic w/ magnesium sulfate cleanse, the stones appear as bright green pebbles floating in the toilet with your bowel movement the next day.

Replied By Steve (Nv) on 04/02/2018

Google hulda clark liver cleanse. It's basically olive oil/lemon juice and epsom salts to relax the ducts and let the stones pass through. Works great.

Replied By Millie (Florida ) on 08/28/2018

Wow, I am happy you did not let that doctor operate on you. I would of DONE the same. Thanks for sharing this! God bless!

Replied By Jean (Old Glory, Tx) on 01/15/2022
Why do they have to take out the gall bladder? Can't they just take the stone out and stitch it back?

Jean

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