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Enza (Rochester, Ny) on 09/13/2015

Hi Bill,

I hope I'm posting in the right area. I'm new to Earth Clinic. I am hoping you can help me with my Candidiasis. I'm also feeling the uncomfortable early stages of UTI, and am taking cranberry supplements for it (and hoping it works! ).

I live in an area with hard water, and have been starving the candida by not having sugar, starch and carbohydrates. I have recently switched to spring water. I've been taking garlic, ground flax seeds, and cooking with virgin coconut oil for a month now. Though I take them haphazardly, not following any particular schedule as I knew of none. I keep meat to a minimum, and eat salads most of the time. - I'm really sick of salad, by the way. Sometimes I skip a meal because of it. So now I am now exploring bone broth soups and fermented vegetables (My first attempt at saurkraut is almost ready to try). I have also been drinking Raw Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother), 1/2 lemon and 1tsp-1TBSP of cinnemon with 8oz of water a few times a week. All this to stave off the candida beast until I can decide on a protocol to tame it.

I read your updated Candida Protocol, and want to try it. It appeals to me because it seems more clear than others, and I see actual people posting here about their journey, but I have some questions, if you don't mind.

1. Should I begin with a colon cleanse / oxygen cleanse to minimize die-off symtoms before I start your protocol? I've heard others have had success with minimizing die-off symptoms by doing a cleanse before they begin treatment. I am primarily concerned with how much I will be able to endure the die-off. I don't have access to a doctor, so I want to minimize die-off as much as possible.

2. In 'The Health Defence Diet', it says "no dairy", does this include kefir? I have typically been consuming milk kefir, one 8oz glass a day and was planning to begin making my own because of the increase in good bacteria.
My boyfriend and I are at a face-off with this. He says kefir is a definite no if I plan to follow your protocol because of the calcium. I always thought kefir was the exception to the dairy rule (as it is in other candida protocols) because of the amount of beneficial bacteria it holds. Please clear this up for us.

3. Regarding the type of recommended water, spring or mineral water; if I choose to make my own mineral water, do I want one that has more calcium/magnesium or alkaline magnesium?

4. Just to clarify with regard to the multivitamins, are these separate from the Iodine Protocol Companion Nutrients listed?
My boyfriend thinks we need to find the listed Iodine Protocol Companion Nutrients IN the multivitamin and supplement whatever is missing from the multivitamin. I assumed I take the multivitamin daily and the Iodine Protocol Companion nutrients whenever I take iodine. In otherwords, in my head I kept them separate. So now we happily confused ourselves.

5. I am reading candida and UTI are common, am I alright to continue to take cranberry supplements while on your protocol or is there something else I can do to deal with it?

6. With regard to food, avocado is a fruit but it is not a citrus. Is this okay to have? We typically have it on our salads. Also, I did not find anything in the diet that said no carrots or root vegetables. I've been staying away from them lately. Does this mean they are allowed in the diet?

Looking forward to your response so I can get started on my healing journey! I know patience is required when it comes to healing and rebalancing, but while I certainly am enjoying all the things I am learning, I honestly can't wait to be rid of this candida imbalance. Thank you and salamat!

Enza

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/14/2015

Hi Enza...In answer to your questions:

1. Should I begin with a colon cleanse / oxygen cleanse to minimize die-off symtoms before I start your protocol?

You can take a colon cleanse if you wish. But, since systemic candida can involve quite a number of other pathogen species as well, I generally prefer taking laxatives regularly once a week with my protocol. My reasons for this are that a colon cleanse may well help you, but it certainly wont clear out the whole intestines like a good laxative can. A colon cleanse will certainly help with fecal caking, absorption of water and minerals into the body and may help to kill pathogens in the last 10 ft of the intestines -- but what about the remaining upper 20 ft of the intestines that's still infected with candida and other pathogens? That's why I prefer the laxative approach.

2. In 'The Health Defence Diet', it says "no dairy", does this include kefir?...

Kefir is made with yeast/bacteria. Candida is also a yeast/fungus so perhaps not advised to take kefir.

3. Regarding the type of recommended water, spring or mineral water;

I would just drink mineral water. To assure getting your daily minerals you could also buy a product like CMD or concentrated mineral drops, which are alkaline, that you can just add to your drinking water as well. I do this too on a daily basis because its so easy and simple just to add the CMD to any drink. Google CMD.

4. Just to clarify with regard to the multivitamins, are these separate from the Iodine Protocol Companion Nutrients listed?

The magnesium, zinc, B vitamins, selenium, vitamin C etc are all part of the iodine protocol and very necessary because most of these minerals/vitamins are sadly lacking in our modern diets today. I also recommend, depending on what else is wrong with the candida sufferer, taking detoxers like ALA, Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Chanca piedra etc(depending on their symptoms), which are all very protective for the liver/kidney and which also help to purify the blood.

I really have very little faith in mass produced multivitamins from my own experience because so many of them sold out there don't even dissolve properly in the intestines -- so they are effectively useless. So whenever possible, I prefer taking minerals, vitamins and herbs at proper orthomolecular dosages, as pure powders, without any caking agents or other strange and unnecessary additives that go into making convenient pills. Taking tinctures and natural extracts made in the old way(without using preservatives, high heat or added chemicals) is also a good form.

5. I am reading candida and UTI are common, am I alright to continue to take cranberry supplements while on your protocol or is there something else I can do to deal with it?

In your case your UTI problem is more likely to be a fungal or mycoplasm problem because you already have candida. But no harm continuing the cranberry if you feel that its working. If it isn't working for he UTI then try Chanca piedra tea or powder.

6. With regard to food, avocado is a fruit but it is not a citrus. Is this okay to have? We typically have it on our salads. Also, I did not find anything in the diet that said no carrots or root vegetables. I've been staying away from them lately. Does this mean they are allowed in the diet?

Fresh avocado should be fine occasionally in your diet. Vegetables are generally also included in this diet, so carrots, top-veg and root veg(excluding those high in carbohydrates like potatoes) will be fine. Eating white meat -- turkey, chicken, fish -- is also ok.

The full candida protocol is shown here. I would also recommend that you should take Gymnema sylvestre tea or undecanoic acid daily in your protocol as well. These two stop candida morphing into its more virulent fungal form. Other useful supplements that you can use and investigate for yourself against candida are: colostrum, pau d'arco, cat's claw.....I've written way to much already!!

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Replied By Julietta (Uk) on 01/13/2016

Where is the iodine protocol companion list please ..? Realise I have been knocking out the probiotics I have been taking as I am taking iodine at the same time ... doh ... ?! Thank you ..
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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 01/14/2016

Hi Julietta...The complete Iodine Protocol, including companion nutrients and all other information, is here:

The Iodine Protocol

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Replied By Enza (Rochester, Ny) on 02/04/2016

Hi Bill!

Happy New Year! (I know its February, but I was struggling in January and didn't want to be at the PC.) I started your program 5 months ago, and I am finally at the Turpentine stage. Naturally, I have some questions for you. I hope you have time to answer them.

My first dose of turpentine was 1/2 tsp in castor oil, and I felt utterly fantastic for 3 days afterward. I even got back to painting. I hadn't picked up a brush in 15 years! I got so much done. My brain was clear, I was motivated, and I felt like no one could stand in my way. It didn't last though. The following week, I took my second dose. Still at 1/2 tsp in castor oil, it was an improvement, but not as spectacular as the first. I took my third dose just yesterday (3/4 tsp this time, in castor oil), and I felt a little better, but again not as strong as the previous doses even though I raised the amount slightly. Still, it was enough to help me get over an anxiety/depressive moment. Does this mean I should increase my dose more significantly next time instead of progressing at every quarter teaspoon? (I admit to being a bit timid about this. This protocol is a tough one for me to take due to the smell of the oils coming back up, but I cant deny the results)

Also, I have noticed that around the time of taking the second turpentine dose, I get a burning sensation in my stomach (and rarely up to my sternum) that lasts a while after I eat, and I seem to fall asleep about an hour after eating as well. At first I thought I was just tired or overate, but even small meals have this effect on me. I have tried cutting my food in half so I eat even less, and am often tempted not to eat at all, but I know that's impossible and am already losing too much weight as it is. My boyfriend is concerned about this, as am I, so I said I'd write you for advice. What do you think is happening and what can I do about it?

One more thing. I have a filling. It's my last one. I've been taking 1 dose of chlorella (1/2 TBSP in a glass of water) 1 hour after the turpentine as you recommended in the protocol, but read somewhere on the internet that if I have a filling, it will make me feel worse when taking chlorella? (I dont remember the source, my head isn't always clear) Is this true? Removing the filling is not an option for me. Can I keep going on the protocol even with the filling in tact?

Enza

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 02/04/2016

Hi Enza...Happy New Year and well done using the protocol!

You needn't fear turpentine. For over the last three years I've been helping an autistic kids group with there own protocols(they follow Kerri Rivera's Protocol). Without any doubt, candida and parasites are huge players and are perhaps the main reason and cause for ASD problems in kids and babies. I introduced this ASD kids group to gum turpentine as well as alkalizing, borax, lugol's iodine, chlorella etc. The kids(ranging from 4 to 12 yo) were taking up to a full teaspoon without any problems apart from the Herx effects. Some parents were also giving their kids dose much more frequently(even on a daily basis). So you really have nothing to fear when using turpentine. I take turps on a regular basis too, usually once a week for preventative maintenance and I've been doing this without any problems for about 4 years.

After taking the turpentine, the burning sensation that you mentioned is quite normal. To get rid of the burning sensation, just take 1/2 tspn baking soda(sodium bicarbonate) with a glass of water and it will disappear. I do this sometimes.

What I would also advise is to try and increase your turpentine dose to one full teaspoon of turps taken together with a tablespoon of castor oil. I would also increase your dosage frequency to 3 times a week(and take the weekends off).

You could also vary your turps method and try taking a teaspoon of turpentine with either some sugar, molasses or raw honey. Taking it this way, well outside mealtimes, the turps is directly absorbed from the stomach into the blood and will kill all pathogens in the blood and in this respect will help to purify your blood. You might get better results with this latter method, depending on whether your candida is systemic(in your blood organs and tissues) or not. The castor oil + turps is really meant to act in just the intestines to kill candida and pathogens there. So you could perhaps also vary your own turps method by taking the turps + castor oil twice a week and take the turps + honey or sugar or molasses method just once a week. This is really up to you.

You also mention feeling tired after you eat. For that I would recommend just 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda + water after meals. This will stop the fermentation that occurs in the gut when you eat sugars and carbohydrates. Remember that candida loves gut fermentation of sugars, helps it to spread. Take the baking soda + water about 1/2 hr to 1 hr after your meal. That will hopefully stop all the tiredness and sleepiness and sugar spiking in the blood and it kills candida. Taking 1000 micrograms of both chromium and vanadium will also help insulin transport sugars into the cells thus increasing your energy. Drinking Gymnema Sylvestre(GS) tea 3 times a day will also safely help to keep sugar levels low in your blood and helps to prevent sugar spiking. GS also kills the more virulent form of candida(in the blood, organs and tissues) by preventing it from reproducing. Undecanoic acid or undecylenic acid will do exactly the same thing as GS wrt candida.

I would also advise and encourage you to supplement something that will help to give some mighty muscle to your immune system. Carnivora helps to balance the Th1 and Th2 sides of your immune system to help strengthen it(like balancing Yin and Yang). You can easily buy Carnivora online -- its only made by one company. It's an entirely natural and well produced supplement made from the Venus Flytrap plant which contains a remarkable array of nutrients in perfect natural balance. Read the research. Try taking the Carnivora capsules or extract(or both) for a month and see if it helps your energy and well-being. Also be warned that you might well get an initial Herx reaction from supplementing this nutrient because of the sudden wake up call and strengthening effect it will have on your immune system.

Even if you have one filling and you take chlorella, the mercury will have nowhere to go but out through the back-end. If you take chlorella then the alginates in the chlorella will bind to the mercury, whereever it finds it. Alginate is a huge molecule that cannot be absorbed into the blood from the intestines and that's why its safe. So no, chlorella won't harm you. Taking chlorella is the only detoxer that I know of that detoxes heavy metals in the gut without being absorbed into the body and without re-distributing heavy metals throughout the body.

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Replied By Ana Maria (Franklin) on 04/25/2016

Never too much information, just reading help me in my own questions. Thanks for your time, Bill!!
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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 04/25/2016

Hi Ana Maria...

Unfortunately, there is alot of bad information about Lugol's Iodine out there so I'm not really surprised that people are confused, wary or afraid to supplement it. But if people actually knew how frequently LI was used by medical doctor's before WW2 it would perhaps astound them.

Before the 1940s, iodine was used very frequently by medical doctors for a wide range of serious diseases. For instance there was a successful and cheap heart remedy that was called iodo-niacin (50 mgs niacin, 120 mg potassium iodide) which worked well for heart and blood problems with no side-effects. This "drug" worked wonderfully but there was no money in it for the drugs companies because they couldn't patent it. So they got rid of it sharpish and now we have Lipitor. Lucky us?

Ironically, it is also true to say that Lugol's Iodine was the first "drug" ever invented or formulated by alopathic medicine in 1829 by Jean Lugol. It was used as a cure hypothyroidism in old medicine. Then in 1948 because of some bad research called the Wolff-Chaikoff report, LI was more or less marked as a poison and banished from supplementary use -- after one hundred successful years of higher dose LI use with no deaths?

And in those older, more honest days, it was also said that if doctors were stumped and didn't know what was wrong with a patient then they would just give them some daily iodine because iodine would always do something good. And believe it or not, medical history also informs us that it was also quite normal at that time for doctors to recommend dosages of up to and beyond 2000 mgs (or 320 drops) of 5% LI per day. But unfortunately, such high LI dosages are not really possible now -- some people can barely take one drop of LI per day without a severe reaction -- and this is because of the chemical poisons we continually stuff into our bodies every day via food, water, vaccines and drugs.

Before WW2 there were more honest doctors who wanted to cure you, few pesticides, no GMO, no vaccines, water quality was much better, the food was more natural and there were few supermarkets. That's really why people who start taking higher dose iodine today tend to suffer from such severe detox or Herx reactions. It's really all about your diet, lifestyle and your own susceptibility and belief in all that crappy agricultural, food and medical propaganda that is out there in the media today. They own the media now without a doubt and, as the trusting consumer, you are their most important monetary target. Never forget that. And the next time you visit your doctor, don't think of yourself as the patient. In terms of the drugs he will give you, I think it's much more honest to think of yourself as the all-trusting consumer because it's a much better fit.

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Replied By Ana Maria (Franklin) on 05/02/2016

Bill,

Thanks for answering me back. And you´re right about all the misinformation about good things as LI in the media etc etc. The good thing is, there are still some good people with good information from the past to make them available in the present and for future generations.

I started the Candida protocol on April 12th, I am drinking 10 drops of LI 4 times a day, I am also having the Turpentine protocol, perhaps looks like a weird thing, I enjoy having the turps, I do not mind the burping. Improved so dramatically my emotional state, I am joyful than ever, I know, the battle is not win yet, but all depends on me to win.

My story of illness is so long, back to the day I was born, and not one talked to me or tested for bacteria over grow, making so difficult to have the right treatment and heal long time ago. On August 2014 I found a Functional medicine web in the internet and looked for a doctor in my area and this new doc started treating me with Nystatin after having a candida test positive. I felt good only for a month and then what?? Nystatin again, and again and again, what a nonsense was to me!! I got the point of walking 1/2 mile in 30 minutes after walking one mile in 7 minutes (fast walk and hilliest), then, not even 1/2 mile, my legs were heavy to moved, from 125 pounds I got 73 pounds, I was very week and so discouraged, my eating habits changed to a healthier ones through the years of sufferings but not improvements,

I am a vegetarian and to gain weight I needed to add eggs and some chicken and fish to my diet but I do not enjoy eating flesh. Once I knew my malady was Candidiasis, I started researching more how to win this battle and I found this blog and bought your book and now I am in the road!!! I am honest, I was afraid to use the SB, the Borax, not the turpentine or LI, but I am here still alive and feeling much better, a lot of loose stool, but it is ok and I am expecting seeing some monsters coming out soon hee hee hee.

Thanks for all your work done and I have faith that I will win this battle, wait a minute, no, no, it is not only me, if I win, you and other people will win also through our experiences.

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Replied By Enza (Rochester, Ny) on 07/28/2016

Hi Bill,

Sorry, yes. I do have systemic candidia from my scalp to my toes, including oral and vaginal thrush. When my scalp gets red and itchy, I dab a little oregano oil or tea tree oil in the location. Same for my toes, but sometimes I just use a coconut oil concoction which is mixed with either lavender essential oil or tea tree oil. I alternate every week or every two weeks between the essential oils. it works fine for me.

The oral thrush seems to present itself in the mornings. It's not as bad as other photos I've seen on the internet since I can still brush away the coating, but there is a definite taste and it passes the 'candida spit test'. I imagine the thrush will go away with your protocol?

I wanted to tell you that I took your recommendation to try a little honey and turpentine once a week and continued the castor oil and turps twice a week. About two weeks after I began, I passed an 8" tapeworm! Wow! That surprised me, but it was also really cool! (Of course, it's hard to share such news with friends and family. Imagining the look on my mom's face just made me laugh. She's afraid of worms, lol.) I felt good after that, but uncertain if it was a real physical response or just the natural high of feeling a sense of progression on this journey. I felt like I hit a milestone in my healing process. I wish I could say I enjoyed the raw honey, but with the way it goes, the process is so quick, I don't get time to enjoy the sweetness, LOL! Most of the time I'm trying to keep the turpentine from dribbling onto my chin. Honey and turps day is always amusing for me. I am grateful no one is at home to witness my morning theatrics.

Moving onto your suggestion of how to deal with tiredness I get after eating. It happens less often now thanks to your baking soda suggestion. Now, I just move the baking soda protocol to after I eat instead of before. I hope that's okay. (I was just feeling overwhelmed with all the drinks, and still am, really.) Sometimes it doesn't work, and I kick it up to 1/2 tsp on the next meal when I'm fairly certain I'll get knocked out again.

I love Gymnea Sylvestre tea. I keep a really big tin of it now. When I have congestion from gas or have digestive issues, I add a few ginger slices to the steeping process, and it eases things. I add more ginger if I feel the gas or 'cold' enter the upper abdomen area. Sometimes I take extra baking soda/water. I also tend to add iodine in the tea so I can easily have it first thing in the morning, lunch and dinner. Can I mix the GS tea with chamomile tea or green tea? I could use some variety in my life, regardless how minute. I'm sure you know what that feels like.

Chlorella is fantastic! I take it even on the non-turpentine days when I start to experience die off symptoms and usually feel better afterward. Of course, it doesn't seem to work when I have flare ups, but it's actually a nice way to discern between the two. if I think its a flare up, I eat a lot of garlic and or ginger with my next meal. If I feel worse, I take chlorella and if it clears it up, great. If not .. well, I just lay down a bit before pressing onto the next part of the protocol. If it's bad, I pause the protocol and let my body rest for the remainder of that day. That's why I like your program, Bill. I am learning to listen to my body and go at its own pace.

Another plea for help is coming : Over the past few days I have had allergy problems. Before I continue, and in case it's relevant, I want to add that I've been getting a few mouth and tongue sores lately. The tongue sores I can easily treat with a dab of allum (let sit for 1-2 min, then rinse clean and don't eat or drink for at least 30m after), but the sore inside of my cheek doesn't respond to it, so I just gargle with Celtic salt and water before I got to bed and just ride it out.

The allergy is my main concern. I tend to get ear infections from them. I expected that I would get an allergic response when the weather warmed up here as I tend to get them during spring and fall, but this one arrived in the summer. I have a constant runny nose and post nasal drip, but now it's starting to approach my ears. I notice this whenever I swallow. I'd like to avoid a middle ear infection, which is what I usually get when this happens. In the past few years, I've used homeopathic pills such as Pulsatilla, to help prevent things getting worse, but I'm not sure if that will be okay to do given their sweet nature. Someone said the allergies could be candida related. Any thoughts on that and how to proceed?

PS: I finally bought the Carnivora. (Haven't taken it yet.)

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Replied By Giark65 (Phoenix, Arizona) on 07/28/2016

I'm relatively new but from reading the boards I've learned the inhalation of H202 will help clean your respiratory/sinus tract.

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/hydrogen_peroxide_inhalation.html

That may help with ears you can also use H202 with a few drops. Another is mix 50/50 white vinegar and rubbing alcohol in a dropper. Put a few drops in each ear (tilting your head). I prefer the vinegar over H202 treatment.

And as a general tonic for the body it would not hurt to do 2 tbsps. of ACV + 1/4 tsp. of baking soda twice a day.

There are more options if this doesn't work. But this is the easiest and cheapest. If you haven't dabbled in essential oils, one of there many benefits is when used in a diffuser or inhaled via steam. They have anti-microbial and anti-inflammation capabilities. I like using a combo of peppermint, eucalyptus and pine oil.

Great story you shared! I truly enjoy hearing success stories and these testimonials people are encouraging for others to follow a more natural path to healing.

Best to you.

Kraig

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Replied By Enza (Rochester, Ny) on 08/03/2016

Hello Kraig!

Welcome to Earth Clinic! How kind of you to reach out and offer suggestions for me. I was surprised to read that article about H202. I use it primarily in my fish tanks and recently learned I could oxygenate plant roots with it. After my initial reaction, logically thinking, it wasn't that much of a leap to consider inhaling it. I might try that after all. I'll just need to review my protocol to make sure there's no warning or conflicting issue. (Unless Bill chimes in before I find my binder.)

Your reply helped shed some light on something that I've been forgetting lately. Bill's protocol recommends alkalizing with baking soda and raw apple cider vinegar, and I've noticed that I've cut that down significantly. I really should keep track of that stuff. I may need to start using an app to help me keep better record of things. A timer couldn't hurt either; preferably something not on a website where I can easily forget to check. Happens too often.

I have some essential oils that I use in coconut oil as a lotion to treat my candida skin rashes. It works quite well, but I've not done much else with EOs. I admit to trying steam inhalation via towel over a bowl of hot water and a added a few drops of Eucalyptus essential oil. It worked nicely for a bit but then congestion returned minutes after. I will need to fetch me some pine oil.

Do you think a proper essential oil diffuser would make much of a difference, or am I okay doing the steam inhalation method over a bowl of boiled water? I have a humidifier but there's a sticker on it that says not to put oils in it. Heh. (Someone obviously tried that already! )

I guess I have a few things to adjust in my protocol now, but I'm looking forward to seeing changes Thank you again for your helpful reply. Have a wonderful day!

- Enza

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Replied By Becky (Sr, Ca) on 08/13/2017

Enzo, I've been following your messages here and seem to be in the same situation I would be interested in how you were doing now, a year later. I've been desperately trying to get help here, to no avail. Seems dead on this site. Becky

Replied By Kraig (Phoenix) on 08/03/2016

Enza, I suspect the H202 inhalation with a pump spray as described in the link will significantly help with your allergies, as well as maintaining your AVC + BS protocol. I've found no contraindications on this board with Bill's protocol in using H202. The essential oils do help and eucalyptus is a good one for inhalation. Steam works though diffusers aren't that expensive given the multiple use for them, and ease of use. Organic raw coconut oil also works well internally for allergies. One tbsp. x2 day is therapeutic for most. Give these a shot and see how you respond in a week. I will mention I also take 1 tbsp. x2 a day of black seed oil and often my nose runs immediately within minutes of taking. Black seed oil is a little pricey but there are so many benefits, including its properties against candida. Http://www.earthclinic.com/herbs/black-seed-oil.html Best to you, Kraig
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Replied By Wendy (Tx) on 08/22/2016

I also have the same question about the companion supplements. I am taking the lugol's with sodium bicarbonate, vitamin C powder and lemon or lime. I take the companion supplements with my meals. Is this the way you meant it to be done, Bill?

Thank you, Wendy

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 08/24/2016

Hi Wendy...You can take the B vitamins and the minerals at mealtimes but I would take the Vitamin C outside mealtimes because it is so poorly absorbed from the intestines into the blood. So I would take the Vitamin C two hours after meals with a glass of water.

Only about 15% to 20% of ingested vitamin C ever gets absorbed into the body. So if you take it with food then even less will be absorbed. The intestines can only absorb about 1 gram of Vitamin C at a time or per dose. Anything more than 1 gram will not be absorbed and just gets excreted. So best to split your daily Vitamin C dose into 1 gram or 1/4 tspn dosages throughout the day for maximum absorption into the body.

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