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Keith (Carson Valley, Nv) on 04/09/2015
5 out of 5 stars

I'd like to add to the information and my condition and recent remedies and success.

I'm 64 and have suffered occasionally from arrhythmia since my 30's. During these years the arrhythmia only lasted at most 2-3 days. I'd only have an attack maybe 2-3 times a year and they were never really bad.

About 6 weeks ago I had the worst episode I've ever had. This one really scared me. I had the racing, skipped beats, weak beats, shortness of breath and low energy. As before, I expected it to end in a couple days. Well it's been 6 weeks and it's pretty much been going on since it started. It's been mostly mild to bad; and everything in between. I've had days without symptoms, but they were few and far between.

My flare-ups generally start when lying down. This last week, I almost dreaded going to bed, knowing that I would most likely have a bad episode. Being able to get a good night's sleep has been difficult.

I've been putting off going to the Dr. because, as many have indicated there's not much help to be gained and like most have said, I'd end up on drugs with unacceptable side effects or even worse surgical procedures or pace maker. I'm just not ready for that.

So I began my quest on the WWW and found this website along with others. However, this site is by far the most informative. After reading I decided to try some of the remedies others have had success with.

My only regret now is that it took me so long to search for and find relief.

I stopped at the grocery store yesterday after work and bought ACV, molasses, magnesium and cayenne. I'd had arrhythmia all day and was feeling miserable. I got home, took two tablespoons of molasses, two teaspoons of ACV, 200mg magnesium and cayenne.

In less than an hour I was feeling better! By bedtime almost all symptoms were gone and I had a normal heart beat and only a skipped beat here and there. I got my first good full night's sleep in a long time. I'm going to have to work with the cayenne though, the dose was too much, at least for me, and I had some diarrhea.

This morning I woke up feeling better than I had for several weeks and no symptoms. Before leaving for work, I took two tablespoons of molasses, two teaspoons of ACV and 200mg magnesium. I've gone the whole day and never once had an arrhythmia episode. I even had coffee as normal this morning.

I'm thankful I found this site and hope that others will find help here as well.

Keith

Replied By Sam (Miami, FL) on 04/10/2015

Congratulations! Now you have to figure out what has actually worked. I bet it is magnesium. While other 3 are beneficial for general health, I doubt they provided such a fast relief. Cayenne increases circulation and is a vasodilator. Molasses is great source of minerals, but watch your serum ferritin levels, 40-60 is optimal. Apple cider vinegar is almost a panacea, it changes your blood reaction toward a healthy one, but it takes time.

Replied By JW (FL) on 11/07/2021
What type of magnesium do I take and what brand? Any molasses brand recommendations?

Replied By GB (Australia) on 11/09/2021
iherb sells liquid Magnesium Malate and Glycinate, both of which are very gentle forms of magnesium. The recommended daily serving size on the bottle is 2 tablespoons.

Replied By Rosemary (Essex, UK) on 04/15/2015

Can you tell me what ACV is, please? I really want to try the remedy you mentioned! Sorry I've forgotten your name. As soon as I'd hit Reply, it went out of my head!

EC: ACV = organic, unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar.

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/acvinegar.html

Replied By Rosemary (Essex, UK) on 04/15/2015

Thanks Keith, I have now found out that ACV stands for apple cider vinegar! I have just gone out and bought some organic blackstrap molasses and cayenne. I already had apple cider vinegar in the house, and also I have a spray magnesium which you either rub into your skin or spray in the mouth. You didn't mention how much cayenne to use, so I tried a small amount, and it nearly blew my head off! I will use just a pinch next time. I will be thrilled if I have the same results as you with the heart stuff.

Replied By Keith (Carson Valley, Nv) on 04/16/2015

Sorry for the late reply. I take 530mg cayenne/garlic 3 times per day with food. I've also added potassium. I've done more research as I've had a couple recent occurrences. I've found that, as others have, alcohol seems to be a contributing factor. I thought back about the correlation as others indicated and it seemed to be the same for me. I'm abstaining from alcohol and see if that helps. I have a feeling I'll be giving up that cold beer. I've found in reading that my symptoms are; a beer or two, the evening before and the next day I have a arrhythmia onset that lasts a couple days. Most of the indications are that alcohol depletes essential elements and dehydrates the body. At age 64 I guess some things are bound to catch up with you. I'll post more when I've had time to test my alcohol theory.

Replied By Sandy (Usa) on 08/20/2015

Keith,

Can you or anyone who is reading can please tell me how much of ACV, mollasses, cayenne, and Magnesium you have mixed. What form of Mag. you have used. I went to store today, but got confused, There are so many types of Mag. availale. Please help. I feel very low energy with the symptoms of uneven heartbeats.

Replied By Sharon (Tennessee) on 09/29/2015

Try the combination Cal/mag/Zinc - or Cal/Mag/D3. however, I can't take D3 at night. Too energizing. Many times they have two types of Magnesium in the combination. Magnesium Oxide and Magnesium Gluconate is what is in the brand I got. The Brand was Best Naturals. It had a high rating. Get a high rated brand on amazon, or another place. CALM with Calcium also seems to help me. It's a powder you put in hot water. I add a touch of juice so it will taste better. Be sure and take a tsp or 2 of apple cider vinegar (with mother) (brown stuff at bottom) with water, and try 2 TBL of Molasses too. Can't hurt. Filled with minerals.

Replied By Anz Cando (Sydney) on 03/30/2022
Magnesium oxide is a low absorbed form of magnesium. Better forms are reported to be Magnesium malate and glycinate.

Replied By Oldchief (Cedar Creek Texas) on 10/04/2015

Am 70 years old and developed some cardiac arrhythmia's over the last 8 months. Really disturbing since during the rapid heart beat sessions I wasn't sure whether or not "this was it." Have HBP which I am taking prescription meds for - Diovan and Atenolol.

I Googled "natural cures for cardiac arrhythmia's and found this site. We had "Calm" in the house but I never took it. After reading this blog, I decided to give it a try. All I can say is after a month my arrhythmia has all but disappeared. I am doing the ACV and molasses regimen as well. Doing 4 - 6 grams of C with Lysine. Got some "MagTech" caps with triple magnesium. Take 4 of those a day. Also recommend Astaxanthin too.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR SAVING MY LIFE.
The Old Chief

Replied By Sharon (Tennessee) on 10/08/2015

To Old Chief- in Cedar Creek, Texas. So glad it my comment on CALM w/ Calcium may have re-confirmed that helped you!! I would like to know if you are taking the 3 heaping tsps. it calls for, or just 1 heaping tsp. I'm still having problems almost every night right now, and don't know whether to increase the CALM dosage to 2 or 3 (like it calls for)..... those PVCs have me really going tonight. Brought on by adrenalin surges from "something!! " or lack of minerals needed in my body- or lack of something needed. The Cal/Mag/Zinc pills don't seem to help much if you take them at night- maybe don't have time to get into the system. But the CALM w/ calcium gets right in. If you take too much, can cause some loose stools. But I'll settle for that anytime- over PVCs!!!! I have not tried the C w/ Lysine. But I'm willing!! I'm taking the ACV twice a day, and usually take a tbls or so of molasses. I'm also on beta blocker- Sectral twice day, and Klonopin a couple hours before bed. My Dr. said to take it during the day too. Perhaps I should start earlier in the day with the Klonopin to get my body more relaxed for the upcoming night.

Friends, keep posting what works for you. I need to know. I've fought this for 30 plus years, but the last few weeks it's gotten much worse- esp. at night. There are a lot of changes going on in my life right now. Although, I don't think I'm upset- there probably is anxiety going on.

One other thing I've noticed is; if I feel "bloated", that seems to bring the PVCs on in spades!! Alka-Seltzer can help, but I've also found GAS-X or something similar may help.

thanks for any input!! I'm getting tired of taking hours to go to sleep because the arrhythmias are keeping me awake. I awake in the morning feeling fine (after they finally subside enough to get to sleep)

Replied By Linda (California) on 02/16/2016
Great info! I'm having arrhythmias constantly. You mentioned you can get arrhythmias from being bloated. That seems to be a trigger. Bloating can push the diaphragm up in the chest cavity, putting pressure under the heart. Wow...I bet that's what's going on with me. Try belly breathing. It's supposed to bring the diaphragm back to where it belongs.

Replied By Sharon (Tennessee) on 11/05/2015

Hi Ya'll, I'm back with some good news about what I have found that helped my heart arrhythmias! I have been almost symptom free now for two weeks. Read on:

I was having lots of PVCs at night, every night. I believe they were brought on by stress, but I've had problems with this type thing for 30 years. However, they were not much of a problem after menopause....until a several weeks ago. Then WHAM! Every night!! For hours!

I read a lot of posts on this site, and took to "heart" your advice. These are things I tried and what worked best for me;;

The Single best thing that seems to work for me is HEART CALM by Vita Biologics, 3 times a day. It is Magnesium combination with Potassium, Taurine and CoQ10. I tried other magnesium supplements, but this combination seems to work best. BY FAR!!

Also, I got HAWTHORN HERBAL TEA by FLora on amazon.com, which contains; Hawthorn leaves and flowers, Hibiscus, Hawthorn berries, passion flower, licorice root, roasted chickory root. The bags are individual wrapped and fairly large to make a large mug of tea. I also added a tea bag of Chamomile with it. I happen to grow Lemon Balm, so I usually put a small handful of lemon balm in also. But I had tried the Chamomile and Lemon Balm together many times, and the HAWTHORN TEA seems to make the difference. HAWTHORN is a good heart builder.

The other thing I take is a couple droppers full of Motherwort extract. Although I had found Motherwort to help a lot over the years, it was not touching this problem by itself! (the last few weeks)

And one more thing I started doing is MAGNESIUM OIL during my bath time. I could not stand to spray it on my body dry- as it would itch and make me miserable. I found if I first washed my upper body and rinsed, then sprayed over my chest and upper arms- rubbing it in, then took my time in the bath, it did not itch at all, and I when I dry off, I leave the chest area wet with the MAGNESIUM OIL- as it should set on body for 20 minutes or so. The magnesium oil had NOT relieved the heart palpitations before I added the HEART CALM, however- I wasn't able to spray much on until I learned the trick about applying it to wet skin.

I believe the main thing that is helping and has almost completely stopped the problem of arrhythmias at night is the HEART CALM magnesium combination!! The very first night, after taking the HEART CALM and the HAWTHORN TEA, I had much fewer heart palpitations. I'm still doing the other things above, and eventually will drop off one of the things above, but will not quit taking this HEART CALM! If I run out of tea (or forget to drink it- HAWTHORN), I will notice if that makes a difference or not.

I am so delighted to give report this good news. I read it all here on this forum.

One thing that did not help by itself for me- was the blackstrap molasses (or any type) I don't think it had enough of what I needed, plus the sugar effect may not be the best thing for night. I tried that for several nights before I read about and ordered HEART CALM- and did not get relief from the molasses.

So, I take one Heart Calm in the morning, one in afternoon, and one an hour or so before bedtime.

A word of caution about the drug CIPRO. (for bacterial infections) It can cause heart rhythm aggravation and even a different type of rhythm problem. I found that I can not take that drug. It also causes headaches and stomach bloating in me.

HOPE THIS HELPS ALOT OF YA'LL!! My heart doctor almost laughed in my face when I suggested that I might need more magnesium or something lacking!!! Wait until I tell him the difference this combination is making! When EVER I decide to go back. Why is it that they give magnesium in hospitals for heart problems, but laugh at taking magnesium supplements when you're not at that point of severity??

I confirmed about the magnesium supplementation in book called The Magnesium Factor just this week. I may post another post on things I found out from that book.

Sorry this was so long.

Replied By Pam (Tx) on 07/30/2018
My physician LAUGHS at me and out-right ignores me. He despises that I know the Medical Terminology and some of the drug interactions. (I'm not clinically trained, but I've been a Medical Coder and Practice Manager for many, many years) so I do understand the jargon. Drives him crazy!

Replied By Robert (Florida) on 04/11/2024
get rid of that doctor!

Replied By Oldchief (Cedar Creek Texas) on 11/18/2015

Just saw your post - looks like you are doing better from the post below. Thanks ChiefVic

Replied By Sonder (Ohio) on 12/28/2017
Greetings Oldchief-

At the age of 40 (I'm now 60) I had several relatives pass away in rapid succession. The stress of the situation caused a spike in my blood pressure for which my family physician prescribed atenolol. I'm a big guy (6'6", 230 lbs) so a minimal dose didn't seem like a big deal. Long story short, it reduced my pulse so much that I experienced my first episode of atrial fibrillation. People react differently to meds so I'm wondering what your pulse rate might be?

Replied By Marjory (Red Rock, Tx) on 12/06/2015

Hi Old Chief,

I am just down the road from you in Red Rock. TNX for bringing up the use of CALM. I know they sell it at the Bastrop Producers Market on HWay 71 right near you (512) 308 9989. They have lots of great stuff in there.

Replied By Ulla (San Diego) on 12/28/2015

Magnesium is definitely important, but I have been on 1000 mg magnesium for years, and the arrhythmia is still there. I think general guidelines are probably in place in terms of what and how much of a supplement one should take; however, our bodies are different and our environments are different as well. I am still struggling with getting AFIB under control. The Cayenne helped some, but not by itself. It seems to help better with lemon juice and Maple syrup. (Master cleanse). Still waiting for the CALM to arrive. Still hoping for natural cure...don't want the toxic meds.

Replied By Anna (Uk) on 01/01/2016

hi Keith

Thanks for your post.

I have had cardiac problems since birth but have been with all types of arrhythmia for the past three years. I am in my thirties and like everyone on here it can be debilitating. I have found this site very helpful and have had molasses which worked like magic.

Although I have respect for my cardiologist I have carried out my own research and have found Coconut water works wonders. I cannot recommend it enough. We are given medications and though they all have their function they are not a cure. Sometimes they do more harm than good and I know this from experience. They also steal nutrients and fluids from our bodies. There is a link between electrolytes and our normal heart function. I started looking into dehydration and went from there.

I hope you are feeling ok now its good to know none of us are alone in this. Keep positive!

Replied By Pat (Pa) on 01/07/2016

To Sharon/Tn:

Thanks! I have used "Calm" by "Natural Vitality" but it is just Magnesium. Maybe I should try tis one by Biologics? I also think spraying my body with Mg oil has helped me probably because I absorb it better than through all the supplements I have tried! And I was told to look into Dr.Carolyn Dean and she also recommends Mg with taurine in it (Magnesium taurate) so I had read about Taurine somewhere and have been taking that 1000mg a day.Just went off the "flecanide" as I couldn't stand the way I felt on it anymore! And it didn't keep the afib away any longer than it was when I only took 1 tablet(50mg) so I'm not taking 2 anymore and plan to get off the 1 if I get better results with these supplements! I can always take the "flec" if I get the episode to get me back to NSR.I did do that before but docs convinced me that if I took everyday, I wouldn't get it as often! Well, that didn't pan out now did it! So let's hope I can keep it at bay wuth supplemants on my own.I do take low dose betablocker at night for whatever it's worth! Don't know if it helps or not!

Keep posting your results! Thks!

Replied By Tana (Australia) on 01/13/2016

I make my own cayenne pepper capsules - very easy - I take 1 morning, 1 evening with a little milk, as it is then kinder on my tummie

Replied By Stella (Texas) on 01/29/2016

Thanks for the info about heart calm And hawthorn tea. I am low on magnesium pills. Will order these today.

After years on nexium, before I wised up, my arrhythmia became worse, especially at nite. I started taking magnesium, Epsom salt baths and magnesium spray with aloe Vera. So much better now. Has anyone noticed that arrhythmia happens after drinking cold liquids?

Thanks for sharing info.

Replied By mguag (Georgia) on 10/20/2020
I have noticed arrythmia is worse with caffieine and alcohol.

Replied By Kg (Ca) on 05/04/2016

I noticed some correlation with alcohol, too. If it is true, that means that heart palpitations relate more than anything to digestion, your gut bacteria (or any yeasts you might have) and how this affects your liver, which in turn affects you blood composition, and only then, as the result of all the above - you get palpitations. So perhaps curing digestion first will cure everything else.

Anyone has specific knowledge on this subject to share, such as the diet and other related things you could post here?

On another subject, it is hard for me to take magnesium - it irritates my stomach. Even the magnesium oil applied to skin has strange unpleasant effects on my body (even though my skin is not irritated much at all.)

Replied By Roman (San Jose, Ca) on 07/31/2016

Excellent discussion, thanks for sharing.

Replied By Gmm3080 (Lakebay, Washington) on 12/04/2016

Indeed, my Chinese doctor of acupuncture told me about gastrocardiac pressure, and one of my N.D.s actually taught me a technique to pull the stomach down (a form of abdominal massage), all to support healthy digestion and to relieve that upwards pressure. I learned over the past few years that with arrythmia it can be a total hit and miss as far as remedies and cures go. Different things work for different people as we are all so very unique, and we all may have completely different causes of arrythmia (brought on by the metamorphosis of menopause in my case). I find it immensely interesting to study different healing traditions with their unique view of the same matter. Fascinating our bodies (and minds)... even when they sometimes scare the living hell out of us (arrythmia or anything involving the heart is more than just a bit scary in my opinion), especially when - like in my case - I went from doctor to doctor for years, without lasting results. I finally landed at homeopathy. And I swear by healing and nourishing herbs!!! I always highly recommend the works by Susun Weed. The most charismatic herbalist in the wise woman tradition I have come across.

Replied By Gary T. (Georgia) on 03/05/2017

I am a nurse on a cardiac floor. Arrhythmia can be very dangerous so do not take any chances see a doctor. Low potassium and low magnesium are the first two culprits we look for with arrhythmia. This probably explains your symptoms and the relief you got after taking a magnesium supplement.

Replied By Gabriele (Wa) on 03/05/2017

There are indeed many different 'causes' for heart arrythmia. I have as a matter of fact been seen by a cardiologist (not a holistic one but still the rather stone age type of conventional one, and was cleared of any and all heart pathology, as well as of electrolyte imbalances and/or deficiencies. Also, every single test done on me (and there were many between the dozen of physicians I visited) came back negative. None of my symptoms matched their criteria or pattern for a dis-ease. I learned real fast that I am indeed the sole authority on my body, and what happens to and with it. The heart is so much, much more than what we are told it is, and it takes a very open mind to take that new information in.

There are a few seriously great books available on the subject of the energetic heart, not the supposed pump in our bodies (the least important and very minor function of the heart), and related physical manifestations of energetic disturbances. Everything is energy. Since there is no separation between energies it follows that everything affects everything, period. I also learned the most important lesson I could ever have learned, and it was very necessary to let my heart be the teacher: I can completely heal myself. Sure, the correct nutrition for the individual (one has to know oneself instead of following rules here as well, there are none), some supplementation - if necessary at times -, daily prolonged exposure to raw nature (wild forests, mountains, near fast flowing rivers, etc.) and unfiltered sunlight in the early morning hours, chemical free and toxin free food, a deep spiritual connection (note, I am not saying religion), working with instead of against nature and her laws, implementation of our plant friends (some of the best healing modalities we have at our disposal), and for some coaching, when needed, a fast forward thinking stellar physician or herbalist, these things I consider essential for holistic healing. The conventional medical field is ignorant about most of these things, relying on dangerous and ineffective methods of treatment. I am happy I learned my lesson and know that I can fully and completely trust my heart, in fact, my entire body. It does never betray me, even when some things appear very scary on the surface. When I went into cardiology in the beginning I approached the staff there with ideas they could/would not understand. Those were things not being taught at medical colleges. But that is okay as I realize that we are all at very different learning levels. Another thing often left out of consideration when ANY unexplained physical things happen to our bodies: Many people who are energy sensitive also react to energies hitting earth from outer space, even interdimensionally (try to inform a conventional doctor of that fact...). It is actually a well known fact that some heart arrythmia in some people are a direct result of extreme solar flare output. I could go on and on and on, but those who know what I am talking about and who have experienced this kind of symptom, are already far beyond the material aspect of nutrition and exercise, etc., etc. They ARE somewhat important, yes, but not the alpha and omega. With this being said I wish all of you who still have heart arrythmia or other 'problems' a speedy and full recovery, and complete healing (and yes, it is absolutely within your reach as long as you don't elevate your doctors onto a pedestal where they probably should not be, and as long as you do YOUR parts and listen and acknowledge your bodies, the physical as much as the ethereal ones, respect and honor them, and converse with nature in all her forms). Sending blessings to all out there:)

Replied By Teresa (Ks) on 07/31/2017
Gabrielle,

Having recently dealt with some heart fluttering, I came to this site out of curiosity to see what others are saying and doing.

I was so pleased to find your post, because, as a metaphysical practitioner, I am a firm believer in the connection of energy and the power of mind. I, too, know we are capable of healing ourselves in so many ways. Meditation with self-healing visualization always has a strong effect on my health. Meditation, intention, and belief in myself has alleviated my problem. I also recognize that we should take care of this vessel, and so, I try to pay attention to the synergy of the multiple things I put in my body. I am 64 years old and in really good health, thanks to NOT following years of "doctor's orders." I couldn't take the "god" complex anymore, especially after some very bad advice and treatments were given. My mother is 90, in amazingly good health, and on NO medications...even though doctors along the way wanted to put her on many things (a practice I believe is responsible for premature death of the elderly). At any given time, she resolved her health issues through diet, some supplements, and belief in her own ability to heal. People can call it quackery all they want--it doesn't change the truth and outcome. For 20 years, I have relied on nature to tell me what I need. Belief is a powerful thing, and if people believe that doctors and drugs are necessary, then, to them, they are. Western medicine is capable of doing some amazing things...but the ignorance and intolerance of holistic solutions is a tragedy.

I wanted to respond to you because I think we share a true kindred spirit regarding these issues.

Thank you for sharing!

Replied By Sue (St. Jospeh, Mi) on 03/06/2017

What kind of magnesium?

Replied By Millicent (France) on 05/19/2017

I didn't realise what was going on; the tired legs, lightheadedness until finally a doctor was around at a crucial time; I'd had a really strong incident with dry mouth and pain in left arm! Had arrythmia verified 2 times but I know its an allergic reaction and heart releases histamines. I've had one doc. agree with me but others think I'm a bit crazy. I don't want to start taking beta-blockers....I don't mess with medication. Anyone else experience this. It was happening today pollen or something in the air. Other than that I know my heart is just fine.

Replied By Mary (Usa) on 07/31/2017

What did you do for A-Fib (heart fluttering)?

Replied By Nelda E. (Florida) on 10/13/2017

GARY T....That's why I come to Earth Clinic to help!!!!

Replied By Anon (Usa) on 10/28/2017

I'm wondering if a toxic mold caused your trouble, such as from peanuts or contaminated water. ACV is vinegar which is antifungal, and magnesium and cayenne would clear your bowels quickly.

Replied By Whole Heart Seeker (Kansas) on 11/03/2017

Is there a particular book or books you recommend?

Replied By Mariana (Ontario) on 02/02/2018

thanks for your post

can you pls let me know for how long did you use the protocol

and the amount of cayenne pepper

(I'm 60 and the dr like me to use pacemaker)

thanks for your time

mariana

Replied By Armelim (Brossard, Quebec, Canada) on 04/10/2018

Indeed!!! Be very careful.

For a bladder infection treatment, I was took Cipron XL 1G. It was a life- and-death situation since I had to run to hospital emergency on the 2nd day of treatment as my pulse was 200 and an obvious strong chest pain. After this episode my arrhythmia worsened.

Replied By Valerie (Yuma, Az) on 11/10/2018

=How are you feeling now? I am going through the same thing currently.

Replied By Anon (Not Canada) on 10/21/2020

Both are diuretics.

You may benefit from electrolytes, potassium, magnesium - but probably avoid sodium. Caffeine will cause the body to eliminate potassium and hang on to sodium, so avoiding sodium when using caffeine in your case may be a good idea. But sodium helps with detox and hydration, so avoiding caffeine is likely the better plan. 🌞

Replied By Jgny (Thousand Islands) on 11/08/2021
I use "wholesome organic molasses unsulphured", I take 1 tablespoon each morning. It has many benefits, but really helped with my irregular/palpitations heartbeat.

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