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Robrt Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 03/20/2015

HI U GOD FEARING FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , ,

Got a wild hair up my ass. Dean Martin (Timh) has probably done this, but I (Jerry Lewis) have not. And that is to bypass your digestive system and implant good stuff into your colon that will not have to travel through your digestive system and be diminished along the way.

The only thing I have done is Coffee enemas and the world knows that works. I take oral probotics, but a recent test showed that I have very little good flora in my gut. You can do anal wheat grass as I'm a great gardner. I can insert my probotic in my rear. All this good stuff will not work if your bowels are lined with plaque that you have accumulated over a lifetime. You will have to clean that out first. That is a long chore in itself. Go to Holistic Horizions and buy Dr. Grey's book. It works.

Earth Clinic is a great site but the short coming here is what Hulda Clark expressed in all her books. You have to cleanse first. None of our great posters tell you that because it is hard and time consuming. Buy her book and do what she says. Then attack your health problem and you will find that it is a piece of cake.

I have totally run out of spit.

====ORH====

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/20/2015

Hi ORH...I don't doubt what you say about the need to cleanse the intestines. But I would perhaps suggest some other methods, with reasons.

First, I think Hulda Clark did a huge amount of good to turn people's attention to poor intestinal health as a significant source for disease. I also recommend her coffee enemas and Parasite Cleanse which are very effective. But I would dispute(and loudly) any claim that probiotics, used just on its own, will cure candida. Here's why.

Your intestines is about 30 foot long and has the absorbtive surface area of a tennis court. Now think of taking just 1/4 tspn probiotics. If your candida and bad bacteria infect the whole length of your intestines -- all 30 ft(think tennis court) -- then the result and outcome of taking such a small amount of probiotics will be exactly the same as for the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. They put up a magnificent fight against 100, 000 Persians, but in the end they were all killed to a man. Same with probiotics vs. candida. I have also never read any testimonial where probiotics on its own has actually cured candida. Probiotics might help you feel a little better for a while but it will not make a dent if you already have candida so extensively throughout the whole length of your intestines.

Now to the second reason why probiotics dont really work. Probiotics only acts in the intestines to kill candida and bad bacteria. So it will not kill bacteria or candida in the blood. Remember that candida is dimorphic and that the fungal form of candida inhabits the blood, tissues and organs as a true parasite. So what usually happens when you eventually stop taking the probiotics, is that the candida comes roaring back to infect the intestines from the blood.

That's why its better to use probiotics when you have got the number down. Please don't mistake my motives here. I like probiotics. But if you have a disease like systemic candida then it wont make a dent. You have to get the numbers down first, then you can try probiotics. I'm using probiotics at the moment. I'm using Lacto-Pafi(made in the Philippines and also sold in the US). This is made from fermented soy and contains high lacto as well as high amounts of minerals and amino acids. Doesn't taste bad either. I'm just mentioning this in case your thinking that I despise all probiotics.

The method I would really favour, regarding intestinal health, would be the method that Dr Max Gerson and William Kelly used. And that is buy using laxatives and coffeee enemas frequently. Using laxatives acts to clear both caked faeces as well as poisons throughout your whole intestines rapidly. Max Gerson was only allowed to work on people with Stage 4 cancers where the doctors had given up all hope. Despite that huge handicap, Gerson still had a 50% cure rate.

You can also use oxypowders if you want to clear the caking of faeces and gunk off your intestinal walls. Oxypowder is just a combination of oxide and peroxide of magnesium. This generates oxygen slowly during its passage through the intestines which not only acts to kill bad anaerobic pathogens but also acts to strip and clean the intestinal walls. And if you do take oxypowder then, after a while, it is likely that you will dump some strange looking stuff that looks like a long black snake. That's the caking being stripped off the intestinal walls. I've read the testimonials. Oxypowder also acts gently to remove the caking. There are several makes that you can use -- Oxypowder and Colosan are the most well known and its quite an easy protocol to follow.

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Replied By Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 03/21/2015

HI U BILL, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , my post must not have been well written because I did not mention Candida. I do know that good gut flora works against Candida and is required for good health.

When I read Hulda Clark over ten years ago and got on this health kick, the first thing we got into were her cleanses. I did Dr Greys slow protocol and my wife used the best selling Oxy cleanse. Within a few days her protocol had released so many toxins that she went into a healing crisis and it took several colonics to get her over that. Now the problem may have been that because of her constipation that the toxins were not passed out upon release. In any case she switched over to the slow Holistic Horizions cleanse which worked wonders for her even though it took over three months.

You qualified Dr. Clarks work. Funny, the German medical folks have taken up her work full bore. Her theory that all cancer cells contain a micro organism is now accepted by The Independent Cancer Research Foundation, Inc.. And the reason I am addressing my cancer with the GB 4000 Plasma Rife Machine as one of my several protocols. The cure rate is reportedly @ 98% as the EMF just kills the micro organism and the cell reverts back healthy. My protocol will also address my candida and a mold that I have.

You are one fella that I follow and have great respect for. At the same time I've also been half-way around the watermelon and and will go with my logic following much research. Thank you for your counsel as it is always considered.

Your Buddy=======ORH========

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Replied By Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn. ) on 03/21/2015

HI U BILL, , , , , , , SJS, and forgot to mention that for Candida in the blood I am doing Bob Beck's blood purification trick, along with Ozone ear and anal insufalation. I eat few sweets, but do have my afternoon martini, which I know feeds the little bastards.

In my last liver and gall flush followed by a coffee enema and Ozone anal insufalation, I passed about 6 or 8 large segmented candida. This tells me that candida has consumed me and causing leaky gut , etc., etc. We raise lots of fruit and berries at our little farm and I just can't give that sugar up. I'll fight them another way.

Also, the only pharmacy drug I take is Actos for my diabetes.

You do lots of good for folks on this site and I want to commend you for that. Your posts make me think. I fire for effect as all know.

=========ORH===========

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Replied By Anon (Anon) on 03/21/2015

Reading a lot , hoping it sticks. I read about charcoal capsules in many sites and these younguns can't stop the drink or the hangover. They found out if they take charcoal they get no hangovers. I wonder if ....

it would keep the sugar from entering where the buggers can eat it . You can have your drink and starve them too.

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/22/2015

Hi ORH...Bob Becks gadget is quite useful but the Rife machine you have is even better I think. Ted uses a Rife machine too.

A few sincere tips for the diabetes problem. First take 1/2 tspn cinnamon powder three times a day. Take it in a drink like coffee or Ginger Tea or Green Tea. Take the cinnamon drink about 1/2 hour before you eat. Cinnamon does 2 special things. It sharpens up all the insulin receptors on your cells to increase sugar absorption into the cell itself and it prevents sugar spiking when you consume all those nasty but delicious wild berries that you shouldn't be eating. And if you're already taking daily Lugol's Iodine then that will also help against the diabetes. Dr Flechas from the Iodine Project also has a story to tell concerning how he stumbled upon LI curing a type 2 diabetes female patient that he was treating for a thyroid condition. Read his story here:

"It was while treating a large 320-pound woman with insulin dependent diabetes that we learned a valuable lesson regarding the role of iodine in hormone receptor function. This woman had come in via the emergency room with a very high random blood sugar of 1, 380 mg/dl. She was then started on insulin during her hospitalization and was instructed on the use of a home glucometer. She was to use her glucometer two times per day. Two weeks later on her return office visit for a checkup of her insulin dependent diabetes she was informed that during her hospital physical examination she was noted to have FBD. She was recommended to start on 50 mg ofiodine(4 tablets) at that time. One week later she called us requesting to lower the level of insulin due to having problems with hypoglycemia. She was told to continue to drop her insulin levels as long as she was experiencing hypoglycemia and to monitor her blood sugars carefully with her glucometer. Four weeks later during an office visit her glucometer was downloaded to my office computer, which showed her to have an average random blood sugar of 98. I praised the patient for her diligent efforts to control her diet and her good work at keeping her sugars under control with the insulin. She then informed me that she had come off her insulin three weeks earlier and had not been taking any medications to lower her blood sugar. When asked what she felt the big change was, she felt that her diabetes was under better control due to the use of iodine. Two years later and 70 pounds lighter this patient continues to have excellent glucose control on iodine 50 mg per day. We since have done a study of twelve diabetics and in six cases we were able to wean all of these patients off of medications for their diabetes and were able to maintain a hemoglobin A1C of less than 5.8 with the average random blood sugar of less than 100. To this date these patients continue to have excellent control of their Type II diabetes. The range of daily iodine intake was from 50 mg to 100 mg per day. All diabetic patients were able to lower the total amount of medications necessary to control their diabetes. Two of the twelve patients were controlled with the use of iodine plus one medication. Two patients have control of diabetes with iodine plus two medications. One patient had control of her diabetes with three medications plus iodine 50 mg. The one insulin dependent diabetic was able to reduce the intake of Lantus insulin from 98 units to 44 units per day within a period of a few weeks."

Source:http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-10/IOD_10.htm

Second -- take Chanca piedra tea(why not mix in the cinnamon to make it interesting?) 3 or 4 times a day. Chanca piedra lowers blood sugar too. If you cant get the tea then just buy the organic powder and use 1/4 tspn per cuppa.

Chanca piedra does many wonderful things including getting rid of gallstones and kidney stones safely and easily. I think you also mentioned way back that you have low blood pressure. So a word of caution here -- if you take the chanca piedra please be aware that CP tends to lower blood pressure as well.

Here's another one for the candida in your blood. This means that you have the fungal form of candida in your blood, tissues and organs. Best way to stop the fungal candida dead in its tracks is to take another tea -- Gymnema sylvestre tea 2 or 3 times a day. Recent research has discovered that this tea completely inhibits the yeast form of candida morphing into the fungal form. It also stops the fungal form breeding. If you drink this tea then be aware that you will likely get a Herx reaction too. Also, on its own, the yeast form of candida is much easier to eliminate than the fungal form. As an encore, GS tea also lowers blood sugar safely, so this also fits in well with your diabetes problem too.

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/23/2015

Yes these so called " colon implants " are some other person unknowns POOP. Why on Earth would you EVER wish to expose yourself to EVERY virus and or other infectious agent some total stranger has been exposed to ?

Hepatitis B, a viral disease is but one of a very many diseases any person WILL become infected with if said colon implant is from a person who is infected with hepatitis B. And, one of every four people alive today is infected with the hepatitis B virus.

And that is only one of a VERY many diseases you can become infected with when you get a so called " colon implant ".

Simply drinking infested water has been a constant source of disease spreading down through the ages. The diseases you can become infected with are so very many I will not even attempt to name them all.

So PLEASE stop with this " colon implant " non-sense. This is PURE and very dangerous QUACKERY!!! ...Oscar

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Replied By Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 03/23/2015

HI U OSCAR, , , , , , , , what in the world are you talking about? No where on this thread has feces implants been mentioned. I don't know you from Adam, but the word Quackery is a code used by by allopathics to discredit the folks who believe in natural healing. Presently the most famous is an Ivy League Psychiatrist who could not pass his boards and now makes his living testifying in medical trials as an expert. AYSM.

Go back and slowly read all the posts on this thread.

===========ORH=========

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/23/2015

Hi Oscar...I think that your fears about fecal transplants are unfounded. Obviously, if you decide to have a fecal transplant then you would go to a reputable health professional who would then fully test the donor's blood and feces for diseases like Hep B, Hep C, AIDS etc before transplanting the feces. This is really just common sense and is also part and parcel of the scientific method in transplant medicine to ensure safety to the recipient. What's more -- you should already know this fact. And if the feces and blood are indeed clear and healthy, then they would normally proceed with the fecal transplant.

Do you have a problem with this common scientific method for safety? Or do you think that it is inadequate?

Personally, I think that some allopathic health professional are pretty dumb -- but they not that dumb because they always, always test before they transplant anything into another person's body.

I've also read great things where people have been cured of many diseases of the gut -- including candida -- using fecal transplants from a healthy donor.

What you should also bear in mind is that your unqualified(no evidence) advice might just prevent a person from doing a fecal transplant. That could also mean no cure for his candida. And you'responsible for that. All because of your knee-jerk opinion about fecal transplants.

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/23/2015

I am glad you agree with me regarding so called " colon implants ". My posting was NOT a response in case you missed that.

I discussed the dangerous so called " colon implants ". I did NOT confuse it with all the coffee enemas and such. I was ONLY discussing people injecting other people`s poop into their colons and was clear about that....Oscar

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/23/2015

This warning about " colon implants " has gotten confused with helpful coffee enemas and other such stuff. That was never my intention.

My warning and concern is about people injecting other people`s poop into their colons. I always try and be very clear. I do not see how I could have been more clear about this.

I am happy to know that the other responder agrees with me about said dangers....Oscar

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Replied By Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 03/23/2015

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/pill-for-fecal-transplants-081914#2

Hi Bill and Oscar,

Saw this recently when I was researching this subject for a friend whose son has been given two years to live before the drugs he has been given for ulcerative colitis destroys his liver. It looks promising! Hope this may give an alternative, and the research continues to find uses for other diseases.

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/24/2015

Hi Oscar...I'm not sure if anyone really agrees with you in this post stream about the dangers of "injecting poop" into the colon. Not sure who you are referring to.

I certainly don't agree with your viewpoint and opinions on this subject.

Please read my last post again. Carefully.

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Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/24/2015

Hi Timh...I did read about the fecal transplant pill awhile ago and I'm all for it. Interesting that it works on the same principle as the fecal transplant except that you take it by mouth with less fuss and expense than via the other end. This pill contains particularly beneficial fecal bacteria -- not probiotic bacteria necessarily -- and that's why the researchers are calling it an Ecobiotic.

As I've said, if this ecobiotic pill helps to cure candida and incurable C. diff as well as other significant gut problems then that's a useful invention which will likely help to end gut disease and misery for many sick people.

I have also found out that Ecobiotics is not so simple as probiotics. Here is some further description, in greater detail, on this interesting subject:

Microbial Ecobiotics -- The Body is not A Machine

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Replied By Art (California ) on 03/24/2015

Hi Oscar,

Could you post links to what you are saying about fecal transplants being dangerous? Everything I have read on the subject has been fairly positive and I haven't read anything that says that they are dangerous when used properly.

Here is a link to a recent case report that is typical of what I have read regarding fecal transplants and in some cases it has actually been lifesaving:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4346118/

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Replied By Megan (Port Angeles, Washington) on 03/24/2015

Regarding fecal implants: I have a young relative who was very sick with Ulcerative Colitis and then hospitalized with a worsening case of C. Diff. It was a very grim situation. Her father became the fecal transplant donor. While the FT didn't cure the UC, it did cure a dangerous case of C. Diff. In her case, the fecal transplant was life saving when all other medicine was failing.
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/25/2015

Dear Art from California - I am responding because you MIGHT be my friend from BC.

I have NO faith or trust in either the medical establishment or the ALTERNATIVES community when it comes to QUALITY CONTROL. This is because of the infected blood transfusions I was given in 1968. Now there was NO test for hepatitis C back then. But there were tests for hepatitis A and B. I became infected with all three: Hepatitis A, B, and C. Whatever. Those blood transfusions did save my life back then. You go with what is available in an emergency situation. I had 24 blood transfusions in 1968.

I CURED those infections with BHT for what that is worth starting the BHT treatment in 1997.

After looking into these so called " fecal implants " it seems to me: You can get the benefits without the poop injections. There are companies selling the specific digestive bacteriums without the risks involved with a POOP TRANSPLANT.

If I was experiencing serious digestive problems diagnosed as a lack of said digestive organisms I would pay the money to have the required organisms introduced into my body by a for real medical doctor. These are NOT poop injections by some alternative medical practitioner.

MDs do have to cope with malpractice suits and are way more careful about such things. You can get the desired digestive microbes without the poop and all the rest said poop contains.

Just say NO to taking POOP from anyone....Oscar

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Replied By Art (California, US) on 03/25/2015

Hi Oscar, No, I'm not Art from BC......I'm Art in California.

From what I have read, fecal transplants can be effective when other methods such as prebiotics, probiotics, resistant starch and fermented foods are not. I have not read anything to date that has said that they are dangerous when used correctly and their use seems to be much more common than just three years ago. The number of case studies employing them is also increasing considerably.

I don't currently need one myself, but if I had a health condition that was not improving or was worsening using other methods, I would certainly consider it for myself . Art

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Replied By Cindy (Usa) on 05/10/2015

Would like to hear from Bill, please. I know this is an old thread but I have been thinking about it since I first saw the posting of it and I was trying to remember if a source for these implant pills was mentioned or not. If not, Bill, could you recommend somewhere reputable to get them? I thank you very much in advance. Do you feel this may also help in addition to following your protocol for candida?
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Replied By Trudy (Alabama) on 05/10/2015

If you haven't looked at ibsgroup.org, try that site for fecal implant information. They have a tab just for this--many people make their own capsules and do various other kinds of infusions. I don't think a dr will have this yet, but it's an up and coming procedure so maybe one day we'll have this option.
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Replied By Bill (San Fernando) on 05/11/2015

Hi Cindy...I'm pretty sure that there are no fecal transplant pills out yet and the reason is that they have not finished testing them. See this link. There are several Universities and small companies involved in this research but I reckon the major drugs companies -- all the usual suspects -- are just not interested in a pill like this because there is just no way that they could manufacture a synthetic fecal transplant pill equivalent -- so no patent licensing is possible and so no interest. But there are some Universities and smaller independent companies who are doing the research right now.
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Replied By Cindy (Usa) on 05/11/2015

Thank you Bill for your reply. I have also been reading of fermented urine implants, so maybe that will have to do for now.
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