Keith (Millstone Twp, Nj) on 01/29/2015
(Mpls., Mn) on 01/30/2015Theresa
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The *signs* that the remedy is working is a relaxed and happy dog. When I have dipped my dogs -either to treat for mange or as a 'go to first' dipping solution for dogs with skin issues, my dogs are always happy and energetic after a dip, and they are not itchy.
From what you describe it sounds like your dog has a secondary skin infection going on, particularly as you have been using the dip for a week now and have no obvious improved results.
If this were my dog I would head to the vet and get a prescription of antibiotics to deal with the staph infection that is going on. If that is out of the question, then I would consider Ted's Borax protocol for pets to fight the yeast from the inside out, as well as Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy to knock down the infection on the skin topically.
I would next consider the diet; if the brand you are feeding has grains in it, it is time to change the diet to a grain free brand.
Since you have been dealing with this for several months, keep in mind it will take time for your dog to heal. When I have treated generalized demodex in a puppy of similar age it took 12 weeks to fully resolve- and this without complications from a secondary skin infection.
You can help your dog's immune system by adding vitamin C to the diet, along with echinacea or golden seal to help fight infection. Supplementing Evening Primrose Oil in the kibble may help with dry skin. OTC products such as Neosporin may help with the raw chin.
If there is a chance that this is sarcoptic mange rather than demodex, you will also need to keep his bedding and living area sanitized regularly to prevent reinfection.
Please keep us posted!
Replied By Keith (Millstone Twp, NJ) on 01/31/2015
I have been working with a homeopathic vet who has been trying remedies of sulfur and silca, but not sure they are working. We have currently stopped remedies. Also, Zeus (my pup) is on a raw diet and taking a Number of vitamins and oils. I hesitate to use antibiotics because it is thought that prescription drugs Zeus took for worms, when he was very young, and vaccines, is what got us here in the first place....weakened immune system.
So, I think I will continue the borax/perioxide baths every other day and borax in his drinking water. The anti-fungal...paste (if I can find the recipe) Neosporin on his chin and coconut oil or castor oil on his dry skin until I see some major improvement. Does that sound right?
Again thank you for all your help. What a valuable resource you all are. Best, k
(Mpls., Mn) on 01/31/2015Theresa
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
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Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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My internet connection is terrible right now else I would find the Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy for you, but if you just do a search for it, or look at 'recent pet posts' and just scroll down and flip back a few pages it is plastered everywhere :-)
In your shoes I would NOT use the castor oil on the chin; if you strongly feel it is indicated use it sparingly as I find it as strong as pure tea tree oil.
The sulpher and silica may be working, but keep in mind that the mites have a certain life cycle so you will need to treat long term no matter the route.
If you are working with a holistic vet then keep them informed of your results; my experience with the mange remedy is that the dogs always leave the tub happy, and that the skin can appear worse before it gets better. 1 dip every other day for a total of 3 dips the first week should be enough - and then once per week thereafter for 12 weeks should do it. Dipping more often may dry out the skin. The anti-fungal/anti-staph remedy can be applied to affected areas on days that you do not dip with the mange remedy - JMHO.
Replied By Keith (Millstone Township, Nj) on 02/10/2015
His hair growth has not started...he looks just awful. Patience is not my strong suit. Any suggestions? Thank you.
(Mpls., Mn) on 02/11/2015Theresa
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
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Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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Your first post was 1/29 and you had been attempting to home treat for a few months; have you seen *any* improvement after using Ted's remedy? Often times bad cases appear to get much worse due to a rapid die off of the mites, but then there is an uptick and things clearly improve- have you seen any signs of improvement/lack of itching/healing of the red bumps?
IMHO if you have not seen any kind of improvement it might be time to throw in the towel and use the Ivermectin approach. While this is not my first approach, when you have super resistant mites I would not hesitate to go this route.
Are you dosing the antibiotics under the guidance of your vet?
You might find slathering the paw with topical antibiotic and wrapping it in gauze and then put a human sock over the paw, and a few inches of duct tape to secure the sock in place [careful not to bind or get too tight] and leaving that on for several hours under observation - or overnight if your dog won't chew the bandage off - might give the paw the break from licking that it needs to get some healing done. If that didn't do it I would consult my vet.
You may find Ted's borax protocol helpful to get a leg up on the internal yeast:
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 12/12/2014
"The borax dose is the same regardless of the weight of dogs. In the end small dogs drink less than large dogs. The only difference is the sex of dogs which the female dog requires half the dosages male dogs.
So a female dog is always 1/8 teaspoon per liter dose. And male dogs is 1/4 teaspoon per liter water. Weight is irrelevant.
Timing:
Borax dosage for 1 week. Then 1/2 dosage in week 2. Stop for 1 week. Resume.
or
Borax dosage for 4 days, then no borax/water for 3 to 4 days. Continue on/off schedule until ailment clears."
You can do the mange dip - and by this time you should only be doing 1 dip per week - and then follow up with the staph remedy in a spritzer bottle to spot treat affected areas without having to dip the entire dog.
Demodex dogs above all else need good groceries and supplements for immune support. Make sure you are not feeding a grocery store brand high in grains and food dyes and sugar. You might find supplementing with colostrum of additional benefit, along with vitamin C and echinacea/golden seal - discuss with your holistic vet.
Lastly, consider a high quality lavendar essential oil - dilute with pure water and put in a spritzer bottle to both spritz the skin for calming, and for the soothing effects from inhaling the fragrant air.
Replied By Om (Hope, Bc Canada) on 02/11/2015
If me, and I have used it with success is
1 Ted's Mange Treatment
2 Ted's anti staph solution for spraying
3 ACV on wash cloth improving the ph
4 The best : UT = your own best body blue print medicine.
5 Last NOT least, Turmeric. Dry powder
Turmeric is a natural anti biotic, excellent for skin and new blood which has largely healed my big dog's entire back which was bloody and infected. My belief is that allopathic antibiotics become precurser for candida and then cancer
My big dog had red mange and I used an essential orange oil household cleaner, spraying. It worked super well. Also, it kills fleas and keeps the skin soft.
ACV as a spray kills fleas well and you can soon see them dead all over which I did not suspect at first. But one needs to spray this at least twice a day, not so with TIKO orange spray which I think is the best but I like to use a multi pronged approach. And ACV is important as it changes the skin ph. You dilute ACV as the dog can handle.
The very best is which people shun but believe me, it is a divine remedy which is God's gift, used all over the world. On him I have used mine and he liked that. But I want to find a long handled 2nd hand pot to take his which is best. But both work. Fresh urine is sterile and does not have an odour. It heals every thing and you can research that.
I still have mites. The last lot from a garment at a big store in Canada. I have soaked a soft terry cloth and used fresh "Manava Mutra" for a month and keep at it as there is far less problem. Also :Shivambhu" as it is called in India, is the answer to all human and animal troubles, cleaning the aura which holds the roots of diseases physically and mentally. Moreover the skin will glow and be beautiful.
Anyway, this is my way and I wish you both all the best success. Namaste Om
Replied By Keith (Millstone Township, NJ) on 02/18/2015
He is on a raw veggie, lightly steamed meat and fish diet, tripe too, With various oils added to his food including coconut oil and coconut water. He is taking probiotics, multivitamins, immune boosters, enzymes, vitamin c. He also did 5 days of antibiotics for his infection. I've also added Borax to his water and recently ACV. NOTHING seems to be working. I've applied cocunut oil to his fur, Neoosporin to his cuts from scratching. ACV I recently have started spraying him
This has been going on since before Thanksgiving. I did see some improvement for about a week and it started off much "milder" then it is now.
He also has been to the vet and is going again tomorrow. What am I missing?
(Mpls., Mn) on 02/19/2015Theresa
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
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Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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I feel your frustration :-(
At this point I have to question if you got the diagnosis of demodex from your vet; did they do a scraping to confirm? Demodex mites are difficult to find in a healthy dog - you literally have to put the dog in a blender and then spin the results in a centerfuge to find mites in a healthy dog. In a dog dealing with demodex mite overgrowth due to health complications, the mites are easier to find on a simple scrape. Lots of times a dog with demodex will develop black-head type pimples- this before they get really bad. Did Zeus have the black-head pimples - or has it always been just itching and scales and hair loss?
From this end of the keyboard it sounds as if you are either dealing with a very resistant strain of demodex mite - which is possible, OR you are dealing with atopic dermatitis, which is a genetic disease that shows up right around 6 months of age, can be linked to seasonal allergy season, and just keeps getting worse each year.
I just had a friend PTS her French bulldog due to atopic dermatitis - he was only 6 years old in a breed that lives 8+ years. The allergies came on each spring, then spring and mid-winter during thaws, and then it was constant. Steroid shots were effective the first few years, but then they became a constant and she simply could not keep up with the constant bathing and the dog was miserable. I wish I had had a chance to work on this dog, but I respect her choice as the dog's owner and caretaker that she made the best decision.
Discuss these possibilities with your vet. The only additional supplements I can see that might apply are colostrum - an immune builder, and quercetin and/or yucca for inflamation.
If this were my dog I would bite the bullet and get the steroid shot; this will break the cycle of itching and give the skin a chance to heal. The steroid shot wears off 4-6 weeks, and the initial reaction to the shot is usually panting when it is not warm [think lady going through menopause! ] and then increased thirst and appetite. Some do not like these reactions at all, but it is just what the shot does, and I have found it helpful in getting on top of an allergy break out. You can stop the mange remedy dips and just use the staph treatment in a spritz bottle for the hot spots. Once the skin is calm and healing I would continue with the health and immune supplements and then try to figure out what is causing the flare ups, and then come up with a plan to nip any flare ups in the bud when they first appear.
If your vet strongly feels it is NOT atophy, and the feeling is still demodex, then Ivermectin may apply - along with several other miticides your vet may recommend. I would avoid mitaban dips - although vets I respect swear by them I just can't see treating my dog with a chemical I need to wear gloves to apply.
Read up on atopic dermatitis:
http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/integumentary_system/atopic_dermatitis/canine_atopic_dermatitis.html
Please report back!
Replied By Monamur (Krakow) on 04/21/2015
I a new here and need some help please.
I have a black pug Hugo who is 3 years old and started having dandruff and loads of it about a month ago. I changed the shampoo after a vet visit to a higher sensitive skin approach and still the dandruff remained and actually got a lot worse. He does not have any hair missing yet and also no actual bloody areas (thank God!! ), but he has small bumps on his head and neck which he scratches constantly. I went back to the vet and they took a scraping as based on my research and the causes of dandruff are several including some mites. They said he is not presenting these so just keep bathing him which, sadly, I did only to actually make things worse for Hugo ( I used to bathe him once a month and we got to even twice a week! ). I came across this treatment and since, I live in Poland with no Polish language skills, I was not able to find ACV, borax or the peroxide, only ACV separately: apple cider and apple vinegar. After some research I mixed the two and I use a cloth to wash him down and have done so for the last three days. He is happier a bit and the scratching diminished but still there. Same with the dandruff. Once I wash him down they both go away, however back by morning... I went to another vet to ask for a more thorough mite investigation and will have the results next week, however if anyone can help, both Hugo and I will remain forever grateful.
(Mpls., Mn) on 04/22/2015Theresa
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
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Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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There are two main types of mites in dogs - demodextic and sarcoptic. Demodex mites are typically associated with puppies under a year of age, and of older dogs that have a serious health issue. Demodex is not contagious, but sarcoptic mange IS - both to dogs and to humans. Sarcoptic mange mites can be picked up from wildlife - by the animals themselves, or from their nesting areas and even poop. So for example if your pug frequents bunny nests, catches and eats bunnies or rolls in bunny poop, then he may have been exposed to sarcoptic mites.
What can be more often confused as mites and is more common are fleas; I would think if your dog had fleas you would find them in your frequent baths, however.
The bumps on the back of the head to me sound like allergy hives. You might try adding a good sprinkle of turmeric to your boy's food am and pm to help with the inflammation associated with allergies. The addition of baking soda to his drinking water may also prove helpful by alkalizing his system and balancing his PH.
If you are online you can access Polish language translators to help with the vocabulary to see if you can get the borax et all you are looking for:
http://imtranslator.net/translation/english/to-polish/translation/
I would discontinue mixing the cider into the vinegar and just use the vinegar as it is. If rinsing your spritzing your boy with the vinegar is providing relief, continue to do so to help keep the itching at bay.
Part of stopping the itching is identifying the trigger - is he reacting to pollens in the air, or dust or dirt or eating a certain food? If you can identify the trigger and avoid it, this will help. Some folks use OTC allergy meds with good effect - something to consider.
Also, it never hurts to give your dog a thorough brushing. Brushing will remove the dandruff, stimulate the skin and distribute the natural oils in the coat. Brush regularly to monitor the dandruff for improvement. Consider adding oils to Hugo's diet to improve dry skin.
Please report back what the vet finds out about mites!