Silversurfer (Washington, Dc) on 10/27/2014
Once again I am here to ask a bit of knowledge! I have just taken the co/turps remedy for the first time. Quite an effect I must say. I have passed a lot of... white material, for lack of better words.
Anyways, I know that taking Lugol's Iodoine, turps and borax water simultaneously can be detrimental. I am wondering the time frame that it is considered safe to take them. So for example, after taking a turps/co remedy, how long should I wait before consuming borax water and/or LI? Likewise, how long should I wait between consuming LI and borax?
Thanks for all the great info!
Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/28/2014
But you can also, as an option, take the lower dose non-laxative form of the turps/co protocol, which is much gentler, but I would always take this on a day on, day off basis as well because it should not be so strong acting. This lower dose should not cause a laxative effect -- it should only act to just loosen the stool, so you can also take borax, alkalizing and iodine a few hours before or after taking this protocol without problems.
It's also OK to take borax two hours before or after the lugols iodine. This should cause no problems.
Adult dosages for turps/CO for candida:
Gentle: 1 tspn turpentine, 1 tablespoon turps. Taken every other day or once a week for maintenance.
Strong laxative: 1 tspn turpentine, 3 to 4 tablespoons castor oil. Once a week only.
Notice that the dose of turps remains the same for both protocols. It is the amount of castor oil which makes the critical difference. This ensures, at the higher dose, that the turps is evenly spread throughout the whole intestines(all 28 feet) by the castor oil which also inhibits turps absorption into the blood. That's why this stronger protocol is so good at destroying candida and parasites quickly in the intestines, which is normally the throne and fortress of any candida infection in the body. This stronger protocol may not be pleasant or pretty -- but it works.
Replied By Silversurfer (Washington,dc) on 10/28/2014
Yesterday, I took the 1 tspn turps/1 tablespoon CO. I wouldn't necessarily call it gentle! I was amazed at its rapid effect (Without pain... It just encouraged the clearance). There were no immediate effects and the taste was much more mild than I was expecting. It applied fairly strong laxative effects after about 4 hours. I was passing totally liquid stools and what came out was just incredible (Sorry for being graphic). Keep in mind that I have been on Alkalizing/LI/Borax Water/Pau D'arko/Molybdenum and many supporting nutrients for about 4 weeks now prior (militantly). I also had run another more primitive version of a candida protocol for 2 weeks before that.
I passed large amounts of white spots after the Turps/CO last night. I am almost certain that they were candida and/or biofilms. I felt almost immediately noticeably better and I can tell that I was able to clear large amounts of hyphae from my intestines. I felt the areas in my intestines this morning. Almost like a tenderness after you clean a cut if that makes any sense. In a good way though. No intense pain at all. By 12 oclock today there was no sensation there. Like my intestines were starting to heal themselves. I feel that the candida/parasites/etc had drilled deeply into the intestinal walls and I was experiencing the first bought of clearing.
I had a feeling after you answered some questions previously about the middle and bottom gut still housing large amounts pathogens in my system even after using the other parts of the protocol. This was a great confirmation and I am feeling better and better as today goes on. I can't wait to see the effects after weeks/months of usage. I plan on waiting 2 days and then resuming 1 day on 1 day off. I feel that my body could use the extra day after the initial release.
Anyways. Have a great day!
Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/28/2014
So the dosages recommended are not so hard and fast. I work from the principle that we are not clones because we all eat different diets, we have different metabolic rates, we all have different things wrong with us and we all have different lifestyles. You will have to find your own dose for turps/CO that works for you in other words.
And if I had some sort of chronic disease like arthritis or heart disease or cancer -- the first thing I would do is use the turps/CO remedy to eliminate all pathogens hiding in the lower intestines. Both Max Gerson and William Kelly used laxatives and enemas frequently to good effect to clear out the intestines. They not only used this strategy to clear out toxins -- they also used them to clear out pathogens that were always hiding, lurking and breeding in this lower intestinal region.
You are also using the protocols correctly(without shortcuts). The turps/CO protocol will get rid of all the candida(yeast and fungal from) and other bad stuff from the intestines. But you still need to take the Borax, Iodine, Alkalizing etc to kill the candida(fungal form) and other associated pathogens in the blood and that will take a wee bit longer.
I will be trying out my new turpentine/CO/Boswellia(mixed together) protocol soon. Boswellia is also extremely good at killing fungus.
Replied By Silversurfer (Washington, DC) on 10/29/2014
I will note one thing. And I wonder if you have any comments on this. When I first started this program, about a week later I "injured" my wrist. The only issue was that I had NO idea how I did it. I am pretty athletic so for my entire life I almost always know how I have damaged something. This was out of the blue and not due to any particular stressor or injury I knew of. I thought it was an interesting coincidence that it happened as I began the program.
Now, I am experiencing another similar issue. This time its in my hips (hip pointers on my back) though. And it happens to be following the use of the turpentine. There was no particular movement that I don't usually do with ease that would have caused the pain.
I have no doubt that it will heal just as my wrist did. I'm just wondering if it has something to do with the clearance of candida and other pathogens from the joint tissue. Have you run into anything like this happening before?
By the way, I am 27 and am pretty athletic like I said. I am not usually susceptible to these types of injuries unless I do something intense, at which point I usually remember how I did it in the first place!
Replied By Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/29/2014
One of the most debilitating and primary characteristic features of candida is that candida can release a huge range of poisonous aldehyde waste toxins into the blood. These poisons can greatly lower the immune system potential, lower the body's detox potential, cause mental effects, create havoc with our hormones, cause pain in the gut and can even cause rheumatic and arthritic pain outbreaks in the body.
So when you successfully kill large amounts of candida in your body quickly, then even more of these same poisons are released into the blood for a while due to the sudden die-off or Herx effect. And that's when you can suddenly get these strange pains in your body as well as a possible increase in your symptoms for a while. But these poisons and symptoms should eventually all recede and go away as the liver finally removes these poisons from your blood.
This is the reason I include Molybdenum, ALA, Milk Thistle and Selenium in the full protocol -- for liver detox and support -- to aid the liver. This protocol helps the liver to manufacture more glutathione(master detoxer for the body), helps to neutralize and remove the poisonous aldehydes (molybdenum, ALA, Milk Thistle) and also helps to boost the immune system.
Replied By Cj (Texas) on 11/21/2014
In the strong laxative dose, it's 3-4 tsp of castor and 1 tsp of terp. Do you take 1 tsp of those or 4-5 tsp, or do you take all 4-5 tsp? Thanks!
Replied By Bill (San Fernandob) on 11/23/2014
The lower dose castor oil version -- 1 tspn turps with 1 tablespoon castor oil -- should not have a laxative or diarrhea effect but should only help to loosen the stool. if this dose gives you a full laxative effect then just reduce the castor oil dose by half. This can be taken 3 times a week or it can be taken for 5 consecutive days with 2 or 3 days off as a break.
Replied By Cj (Texas) on 11/23/2014