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Jnanasutra (Jacksonville, Fl) on 09/24/2014

Has anyone that has tried a combination of coconut oil and bht? The coconut oil dissolves the lipid coating of viruses. Then the bht may be more effective. I have read about a study done in the Philippines in which coconut oil got rid of hiv virus.

Do you know of anyone that has used dmso on the liver area and had positive results in healing? Thank you

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Replied By Swfowkes (Cupertino, California) on 09/23/2015

I have been using BHT dissolved in coconut oil for years. I use the refined coconut oil exclusively because the traces of water, minerals and proteins in the raw coconut oil are catalysts for oxidation reactions and will shorten its shelf life. I use it primarily for topical applications (10% by weight, up to 15% by weight in warm climates) because I have good bile and can absorb oral BHT efficiently without need for pre-dissolving it. But if you are missing your gall bladder, have problems with higher-fat diets and difficulty absorbing fat-soluble nutrients, or just do not get good results with BHT in capsules or crystals, there is no reason why you couldn't use coconut oil to take oral BHT. I prefer it because of its low level of unsaturation. I even brush my teeth with it.
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Replied By Joseph (Tn) on 09/24/2015

I've used coconut oil for 15 years or more, and I do not think CNOil by itself dissolves the lipid coating of virii. I've heard that CNOil derivatives such as Monoloaurin (ML) and Lauricidin (LC) do.

I could not tolerate ML and LC. They seemed to cause bacterial imbalances in my GI tract, possibly by killing off the good bacteria and enabling the bad bacteria to multiply.
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Replied By Daniela (California) on 10/04/2015

I have been using BHT at high doses of 2,000mg/day. At lower doses it was supportive but not nearly as effective for my herpes and other immune related symptoms as higher doses. It's been like a miracle. Unfortunately however, I am getting side effects at this high dosage - a constant rash on my face and diarrhea.

From the BHT book, it sounds like I may either be reacting to possible impurities, or I need to bypass the digestive track. So I am going to try and make the topical oil using refined coconut oil.

How exactly do you do this?? What does the 10-15% by weight mean? Am I to weight the coconut oil and then weight out 10-15% of BHT to oil ratio?

Also, what brand are you using? I am using the Whole Sale Nutrition brand, but am concerned given my side effects that it contains impurities. I know I could try the activated charcoal, but that seems a bit tricky given that I will have no idea how much BHT I end up taking since the charcoal will absorb some amount of the BHT, if not all of it.

Thanks!!!

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 10/04/2015

Dear Daniela [ California ], Why not at least give the much lower dose BHT treatment I have discussed here so VERY many times now a try?

In my opinion: BHT taken with water only on an empty stomach is MUCH more effective than mixing BHT in ANY and ALL OILS. Also: 2,000mg per day is way TOO much BHT. BHT is not safe at such large doses.

I don`t know how much you weigh. The dosage I have discussed is 250mg of BHT per day for people who weigh 125 pounds or less. For those who weigh 150 pounds or more a second dose of 250mg of BHT MIGHT be required. Also: Any time adverse reactions occur LOWER the amount of BHT used.

Why not at least TRY the BHT with water only on an empty stomach method a try at the much lower doses I have discussed? That is what worked for me and others....Oscar

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Replied By Daniela (California) on 10/05/2015

Hi Oscar,

Thanks for replying. Yes, I have already tried the lower doses of BHT. I tried doses of 250mg-1000mg for 2 months. It did help, but I was still getting some amount of tingling, burning and itching consistently even at 1,000 mg. And, yes I take it on an empty stomach with only water.

Lower doses were preventing a larger outbreak, but I was always on alert since I still had symptoms, and if the symptoms got a little worse then I would feel forced to resort to using the Acyclovir ointment (which I had to use with some regularity).

As per my doctors suggestion, I entered in St. John's Wort and Lauricidin in July and that helped to lessen symptoms even more (along with the lower dosages of BHT), but I wasn't "cured". Then in mid-August, after a very stressful event and symptoms worsening, I decided to up the dosage to 2,000 mg (which is what the BHT Book says is the very maximum safe dosage). I am getting my liver enzymes checked regularly by my doctor - all is OK so far. That's when my herpes symptoms went away completely! That high dosage actually worked, and despite major grief and loss, I was feeling more energetic and healthier over-all on this dose. But I also developed the side effects (rash and diarrhea).

After 6 weeks of feeling a lot better, but also dealing with these side effects, I lowered my dose to 1,000mg per day again and within several days I got a canker sore (not sure if this is related, but the haven't had a canker sore since childhood), plus a tiny amount of tingling came back. Sigh.

Because of my side effects, I'm keeping my dose lower anyway, but I am not clear this will work well enough for my viral issues, since symptoms are re-appearing already. My oral herpes symptoms are much more extreme than most. I am one of those more sensitive people. And I have chronic immune-related issues in general. What works for some people, does not work for all people. So, I need to try something else. I am already working with many of the nutritional protocols that the BHT book discusses, but will keep experimenting.

Steve - I'd love to understand what "10-15% by weight" means when making the oil mixture?? I don't understand this. How do you take it once dissolved in oil? Topically or orally? And what dosage does this Oil Mixture end up being both topically or orally? I know you say in the book that dosage is uncertain when applying topically, but any ideas at least?? I don't know where to start with this.

And does anyone know what brands are more "pure"? Has anyone tried using the activated charcoal as described in the BHT book to remove impurities?

Thanks!

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Replied By Swfowkes (Cupertino, California) on 06/10/2022

Daniela,

10% by weight means 10 grams of BHT in 90 grams of coconut oil, or 15% by weight means 15 grams of BHT in 85 grams of coconut oil. But there is no need for precision in such a situation. You could add 50 grams of BHT to 50 grams of coconut oil and it would be OK. 50% by weight would mean that you would have undissolved BHT crystals at the bottom of your oil solution, but other than a bit of grittiness if you scooped to low, it would not be harmful at all. The grittiness would tend to go away as the temperature of the BHT-oil warmed from room temperature to body temperature. And as the oil was absorbed, you could end up with a greasy BHT residue on your skin. This could easily affect how often you have to do laundry, but both BHT and coconut oil are so inexpensive that the financial concern is near zero. The 10% figure I cite is better for cold climates (North Dakota) and the 15% for warm climates (fForida), but if your home, kitchen or bathroom is heated high enough, you do not need to worry about BHT crystalizing out of solution, even at 15%. Coconut oil itself will tend to solidify before BHT crystalizes. Personally, I add a tiny amount of medium-chain triglyderide oil (MCT, as the pure C8 type) to keep my BHT-mixture soft in the winter (I brush my teeth with it). I tend to heat my house sparingly.

I hope you got an answer to your question long before now, but it is a good question that deserves an answer here.