Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 08/27/2014
Dear Penny from Chico, I am glad to hear of improvement with BHT. But, it is very important that you stay with taking BHT on a daily basis. This stopping and starting the BHT treatment is NOT the way to get good results. Every time you stop the BHT treatment you are allowing the virus to spread to uninfected liver cells. I want to see you get well and stay well. It will probably take at least 2 years of daily dosing with BHT to be truly CURED. You are truly CURED when you test NEGATIVE with the HCV antibodies test. Testing NO VIRUS DETECTED is NOT being cured. That simply means the BHT treatment is working the way it is supposed to. Those viral load count tests are a blood test. The HCV and HBV viruses reproduce in the liver cells and NOT the blood cells. I know of people who got to NO VIRUS DETECTED with the viral load count tests using BHT and stopped the treatment. Those people ALWAYS relapsed eventually. The same is true for people using the prescribed treatments.
Like I said it takes at least 2 years of daily dosing with BHT to be truly CURED. Liver cells live on average about 200 days. One person did get CURED in somewhat less than one year. But he was very lucky. So stay with the BHT treatment UNTIL you test NEGATIVE with the ANTIBODIES test.
Most doctors do NOT know this. It seems obvious to me. But they are taught erroneous information about all this. I have been at this since 1997. The hepatitis C websites devoted to the conventional treatments are FULL of stories by people who got to NO VIRUS DETECTED with that viral load count test only to RELAPSE in a few years .
So, just keep taking the BHT like you have been and eventually you will be CURED. Keeping the treatment simple like you have been is the way to do this treatment. Just stick with it until you test negative with the ANTIBODIES test. That usually takes a few years....Oscar
Replied By Dan (Ontario, CA) on 12/01/2014
Is there anyone out there who had a bad reaction to BHT? I've had hep C for 40 years and I am heading into stage 3 liver disease. I have always self treated and seemed to keep the virus at bay. However, in recent years my levels have gone way up and my ferritin levels are in the 500 range. I am on blood pressure meds, (which I am not happy about). I tried the BHT at 2 x 250 per day and it made me feel ill. I cut back to 1 a day and after 2 weeks I couldn't think or hardly function in day to day activities. I want this to work but I seem to be allergic to it. Oh, I also have Crohn's disease. Any advice would be appreciatedReplied By Mr. Ree (Usa) on 12/02/2014
Have therapeutic phlebotomies...It will lower you ferritin and your enzymes as well...It will also remove some of the virus...I have found that it will lower both enzymes and ferritin significantly after each treatment...You want to get your ferritin in the 30 range regardless of what your doctor says...
At that level your enzymes will be close to normal...Of course Dr's know this...but...
Also, get checked for hemochromatosis...If you have both genes you have it...Then you can automatically be qualified for phlebotomies...
Replied By Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 12/02/2014
Hi Dan,
There is a woman on the low dose naltrexone (LDN) site who has kept her Hep C viral level low by using LDN and alpha lipoid acid. Many others have done the same thing on the Yahoo LDN site. She also says she keeps a high Ferritin level down by taking IP6 capsules, which will chelate iron from the body. This may give you an alternative if the BHT is a problem for you. An additional benefit of the LDN is that it has a high success rate for Crohn's disease, and is currently in Stage III trials. The successful prior trials by Dr. Jill Smith have been published in medical journals. There is about a 67% success rate. LDN may provide a double benefit for you. See www.ldninfo.org for more information, then join the Yahoo LDN Group shown on that first site and ask any questions to the more than 12,000 members on just that site, who take it. Best wishes.
Replied By Dan (Ontario) on 01/10/2015
Thanks to Mr .Ree and Rsw for the replies. Firstly, I have tried to get phlebotomies prescribed for me but with no success. There is no hemochromatosis in my genes as proven by lab work. I am in Ontario and it is almost next to impossible to try and get a physician to work with me on this. I even tried to show a specialist the clinical study proof of being bled to reduce ferritin levels which in turn will bring down ast and alt levels-wasn't interested. Secondly to Rsw, the link you gave me is quite interesting and I am currently trying to get a supplier of LDN. Thanks again for taking the time to reply...Replied By Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 01/11/2015
Not sure if this is allowed but I do feel it would be helpful to many people who are struggling to buy LDN and cannot get a doctor's prescription. I understand if you feel you cannot print this. Thank you.
Hi Dan,
Here is a link you may find to be helpful. I have no personal or business association with this site. The man who runs it also has Hep C, and is thought to be reputable by the LDN community. Best wishes!
http://www.buylowdosenaltrexone.com/order-now.html
EC: Hi RSW,
As one of our wonderful long time contributors, you can post links to helpful products at any time!
Replied By Timh (KY) on 01/12/2015
Thank You Rsw for your LDN advocacy. Suffering debilitating consequences of a twice compromised immune system, as evidenced by chronic viral, bacterial, fungal, and mycoplasma infections, I braved and fought as long as possible but continued deteriorating and started approx. 1.5mg Naltrexone Dec 13, 2014. Two days latter I was able to clean my house and get about some better. I have many issues and the road to substantial recovery is long, but this LDN is helping in a major way.
Again, TY for your recommendation, what, some 2yrs ago?
Replied By Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 01/12/2015
What great news, Timh! Over the years, it has been obvious that your road has not been an easy one, but you have persevered and been unrelenting and unafraid to try new, always logical and well researched treatments, in your quest for improvement. Along that route you have helped so many on this site with your insights and understanding of how supplements and other treatments can interact synergistically for positive results. I have benefited many times from taking your suggestions to heart. This is icing on the cake to hear that you are feeling better! You have made my day.Replied By Dan (Ontario) on 01/12/2015
Dan, You can use I-P 6 (phytic acid) and get your ferritin levels down...With ferritin levels down you enzymes will also go down. It usually works for about 30 points per months...Experiment with strength...
I would still not give up looking for a doctor that would give you monthly phlebotomies...there must be one doctor in Canada with ethics that would help your condition. Don't give up!
Replied By Dan (Ontario) on 02/12/2016
Hey Dan and to all who replied. After a 40 + year battle I had the opportunity to try Harvoni in the spring of last year. I was prescribed an 8 week course (being treatment naïve and having a viral load of 5.5 mil. , ast of 249 and alt of 160). Now, at 9 months post treatment ast and alt levels within range(normal) and hep c virus undetected. Not really a fan of big pharma but this did work. Extremely expensive but thankfully my insurance covered the cost.Replied By Keith S. (Port Isabel, Tx) on 09/21/2016
My iron level is normal, platelet count was 70 and ferritin was 1100. I've been going to a clinic in Matamoros Mexico and they charge me $24 each visit to remove one pint of blood. $20 for a liver panel, $10 for ferritin. VL is $350. I opted for the liver panel and ferritin test. After 8 treatments, my ferritin was down to 375 and alt and ast was down by half. I attribute the rapid drop of ferritin to my using Dr. Bergs wheatgrass juice powder. If you have genetic hemochromatosis take clean chlorella instead of the wheatgrass juice powder because of the iron content.