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Dave (Denham Springs, La) on 10/10/2013
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I was wanting to ask a question in regards to high blood pressure. I have checked my blood pressure about 10 times a day. It ran 116/66 to 120/75 most of the time. Then one day last week after blood test I saw my alt was 64 and my bilirubn was 1.09. So I decided to do a coffee enema which I have done many time with no real problem. This last time about an hour after I did it, I noticed I feel bad so I took my bp and it was 140/84 so I kept checking it off an on over the next hr and it kept going high and then back down normal to low. I went to bed and in the morning I noticed as I moved around it started going up and down again then it stopped by noon and remained perfect.

The next day I felt hot or flush checked it again and it was 150/89 a little while later its bacck at 120/73. Any thoughts as to why after the enema it would change?

Oh, I was told about 6 yrs ago that I had a 4.3 cm growth in my liver. I also was told I had adenocarcinoma of the pancreas and they told me I had 2.5 to 3 weeks to live. In Jan of 2013 a holistic dr did some bloood test because I had some spells with a drawing in my cheek and mouth he said he thought I was passing blood clots. Then he told me that he thought I had viral chf. Anyway was wondering what your thoughts where.

Oh, I do take 3 natto-k a day 3 virus stop 4 80 billion ultra flora. 1 -1000mg lypo-spheric vit c 500 mg b12. Beta glucan 3 times a day. 3 hawthorn cap a day. 3 chromium and vanadium. 1 cq10 cap 3x a day. 1 chelated zinc a day. 2 fish oil 3 x aday. 1 micro max seaweed cap. 1 magnesium 2x aday. I drink a couple fresh juiced carrot, beet, galic, dandelion, ginger a day. I also take a tonic of the garlic, lemon, ginger, acv, honey 1 table spoon a day. I eat no meat or fish no animal product. All vegan I drink italian still mineral water 33. 8 fl oz 3 times a day. And 1 papaya leaf tea a day. Hey, thx for your time and feed back.

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Replied By Nanowriter (Hotspot, Texas) on 10/10/2013

Hi Dave, I just got done reading a very interesting book by a guy called Matt Stone. He has a theory that we all drink way too much fluid and that this is lowering our basal metabolism. One sign of LBM is high blood pressure and he mentioned that one could get excess fluid was through enemas! Take your temperature and see if it is low.
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 10/11/2013

Gee, Why not just stop with the coffee enamas if they cause your blood pressure to rise? Are you guys playing this for laughs or what? If you are you got a laugh out of me....Oscar
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Replied By Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/12/2013

Hello Dave from Denham Springs.

To answer your question about why would an enema cause an increse in your BP... it didn't.

You used enemas in the past as cleansers... That is apparent from your post, correct? And no problems, correct? Despite the tumor issues in Liver and Pancreas. And those tumors were diagnosed years ago you say. So I take it you've given yourself cleaning enemas before and this time was to clean for bilirubn level.

Coffee cleaning enemas are a major part of the protocol in some very good anti cancer protocols... Dr Nick Gonzales (one of my alt med heros) and the enemas are universal with his patients who all have tumors. The point is, all his cancer patients take enemas but the enemas don't cause hight BP issues. SO... The tumors didn't cause the high BP. (Otherwise Gonzales could not have all his patients on coffee enemas, right?)

So...what is the cause of the BP. Did the enema cause the increase... And I said NO. Then what did?

First, don't confuse relationship in time with causation. (Example: My hair has turned grey in the last 25 years. I have used the same barber who cuts it every two or three weeks. When he started cutting my hair, it was brown. Now it is grey. Hence, the barber caused my hair to turn grey.)

Dave, it could be that your BP was headed up at about the same time as the enema. Previous enemas had not caused an increase.

Something else is going on and the enema and the BP rise happened in approximately the same time frame.

Treat this as a BP issue; look on the EC site under BP ailments and check out all the remedies for BP problems. I keep mine at 107 or so by using natural E, manesium, selenium, argenine, hawthorn, CoQ 10, cayenne caps. You know... the heart stuff.

I do sprint exercises. I do NOT do distance running that keeps the heart going for long periods of time. That type of exercise will harden the heart with time (See Dr Mercola's recent article on this).

However, I not recomment you do another enema right away because you'd be so up tight about it that your BP might go up out of anxiety. I'm assuming you are doing an enema correctly... Not over 15 minutes with the liquid in you... Largely lying on your left side, although body position can vary but the left side is the Kelly/ Gonzales method, and surely you are not using too much liquid... Two or three cups?

And are you on meds for your tumors... meds as we all know can cause BP problems.

Dave from Fountain Inn

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Replied By Dave (Denham Springs La) on 10/26/2013

Hey, thx for all the replys. As far as quiting the coffee enemas I wouldn't dare do that there to vital to my healing. I don't take any meds at all not for over six years. Not even so much as an asprin. the thing that I thought may have happened was perhaps a stone blocked a duct or a blood clot dislodged. Just thought I would throw it out there for others opinion. I haven't had it happen again since then. Thx again for the feed back.
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Replied By Alex (Romania) on 02/19/2015

In my view you suppplement with isolated chemicals. Not a good thing. Ialso agree that coffee enemas could not be the main culprit in this because usually they lower the blood pressure. Also there is a posibility of temporary supratoxicity by the detox reaction which in my imagination drains from inside the cells into the circulatory system.

In my view the first thing to do is to go on a ancient weston price diet . That means ancient cooking and ancient food and experiment with that. The tumors in my view should have been erased in maximum 2-6 months entirely .

I suggest weston price diet +coffee enemas + herbs. This is the easy way there could be harder ways like fasting , juice fasting, water fast, vinegar, salt water flush , ketogenic and stay out of the isolated chemical supplements even if they are natural. hipertension means supratoxicity in the body and the supplements and bad food which you're ingesting besides the good food that you mentioned is most certain to blame for hipertension.

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