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Sa (H, Kt) on 09/07/2013

i am 30 year old female and I noticed that I have two or three urine stream and my urine steam sprays down to my legs. I am having this problem since long but now I am getting infections because of spraying urine here and there and on to my lady parts. Is there any other lady that experiences the same? And is there any cure for it?
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Replied By Sa (H, Kt) on 09/14/2013

This is a question for TED, BILL or MAMA to many, I have already posted it but I guess no one knows the answer. I am 26 year old female. The problem is I do not have a straight stream of urine. The stream is either sprayed or double. I got checked with a urologist, did urodynamic study but everything was normal. Does any one knows about any cause causing it. I have otherwise free flow so a stricture is ruled out too.
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Replied By Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 09/14/2013

Dear Sa,

I had hoped someone with the same difficulty (and cured of it) would have had some thoughts for you. I think it is a good sign that doctors have not found anything they are concerned about, though it is frustrating to be left with no solution. I will suggest few things that I would try. First of all, if you don't do them already, try Kegal exercises. All ladies should be doing them anyway, and it might stregthen things up. You should work up to 100 per day. It won't hurt and might help. If your pelvic floor is relaxed or lacking tone, and this causes the problem, this could help.

Also, there are two herbs that are especially indicated for bladder issues. They can be helpful to tone the bladder, among other bladder difficulties. These herbs are cornsilk and Uva Ursi. You could make a tea or take supplements with these things. (With the Uva Ursi, one herbalist says you should take it with marshmallow root. ) Even if you don't find anyone using these herbs for your particular difficulty, because they are so helpful for a variety of bladder conditions, it would be worth a try. I was taking Red Raspberry for many months for pregnancy and found it helped prolapsed bladder very much. Herbs often help quickly, but sometimes need a good amount of time to bring healing. I would give it a few months before giving up if you should try one or the other. Neither herb is recommended in pregnancy and both are diuretic, just so you know. If you decide to go the tea route, take a least a pint of tea a day. If you take supplements, take whatever is recommended on the supplement you buy.

For the more immediate difficulty this is causing to you skin, I would look into getting a peri bottle. They are very inexpensive and so helpful for cleaning. Many hospitals give them to ladies healing after birth. After emptying your bladder, you use the peri bottle of water to rinse yourself (and then pat dry with toilet paper). You can add a couple of drops of lavender essential oil to the bottle to aid in healing. Overnight you might use coconut oil topically to reduce/heal irritation to your skin.

Please let us know what you find that helps you!

~Mama to Many~

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Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/15/2013

I had this when stones were forming and eventually passed one so large it ripped one of my ureters. Just because exams do not reveal any stones, it doesn't mean there weren't any. It's been reported that we can frequently pass small ones.
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Replied By Sa (H, Kt) on 09/15/2013

Thank you, Mama to Many, for your reply. I am already doing kegel but only 15 times a day I will increase it to 100. Also by infection I meant vaginal infection for which I think frequent washing with soap is the cause. I will use the herbs you mentioned and report back. Thank you so much for the reply.
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Replied By Andrea C (Wales) on 09/16/2013

I have something called Nephorosis of the left kidney, it affects my urine flow. Its quite common, and I may have been born with it, but it gave me no problems until I got in to my twenties. I am now 54, go to the Dr's and get checked out to find what the cause is, I was putting mine down to the 'Change' it wasn't, but that aggravated it big time!! ( What helped me in the end was seeing a Herbalist, as the Hospital and drugs were no help at all and made me feel ill. I am sorry but I can't remember what the Herbalist gave me, the plant grows evry where in the UK, it trails up walls and fences, and the root is used, dried as a tea. I found this out after a few expensive outings to the Herbalist, and it was growing all over my back yard!!! Lol I will look on-line and see if I can find the name, but any good herbalist should know what it is. It's got white trumpet shaped flowers about 2 inches long, and heart shaped leaves, and I think the nick name for it is 'Old Father Time' as you can't get rid of it! Hope this helps. Love Andrea C xxxxx

EC: Possibly Hedge Bindweed.

Medicinal use of Hedge Bindweed: "The root is demulcent, diuretic, febrifuge, poultice and strongly purgative. Use of the root is believed to increase the flow of bile."

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Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/16/2013

My husband had to stop using deodorant soap... We both use Ivory now. No colored toilet paper and no fabric softener. Do you frequently change laundry detergents? Make sure all soap is rinsed out. Add a Cup of white vinegar to the rinse water. Just trying to offer other possibilities.
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Replied By Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 09/16/2013

Dear Sa,

I am seeing some great feedback and ideas from Kt and Andrea... I was thinking about what Kt said.. The possiblity of stones. While I was doing dishes, I was thinking about it... As it relates to my sink... When little pieces of grit from my water start to collect on the screen of my faucet, the water comes out spraying at worst, or at least not like the normal stream I get from the faucet. So, stones may be a likely cause.

The cornsilk, marshmallow, and uva ursi that I mentioned before as being good to tone the bladder, are also all "lithotriptics" meaning they are herbs used to dissolve and discharge urinary and gall stones. So, those herbs may help if you have stones. You may end up finding an herbal bladder or kidney formula with all of those and some other good herbs (like Gravel Root, Parsley, Horsetail). By the way, when using cornsik, please be sure to get organic because of all the GMO corn. (All information in this paragraph is gleaned from Philip Fritchey's book, Practical Herbalism; one of my favorites! )

Another thought is that, if it is stones, Apple Cider Vineger might be of help. (It is good for lots of things and is a good all around thing to add to your life. ) You might read around on the Kidney Stones page for lots of helpful information on that.

Plenty of water or hebal tea daily is important for everyone, espeically when there are bladder and kidney troubles.

Please keep us posted, I will be anxious to hear what helps you.

~Mama to Many~

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Replied By Sa (H, Kt) on 09/16/2013

Thank you Kt for your reply. I haven't changed my laundry detergent in ages. My major issue is not having a straight stream, for irritated skin I use lotions and it keeps it ok. If I get a straight stream everything else falls in place but mine seems a rare case as I am still not having any diagnosis.
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Replied By Sa (H, Kt) on 09/16/2013

Thank you so much for your reply AndreaC. Did you have trouble in stream or the stream being straight? Mine just seeps underneath my legs. I will surely look out for it and it really makes sense as I also have a mild hydronephrosis of my right kidney and I do not have any other problem except my stream not being straight else the flow is normal. And is the herb Climbing Vine? Thank you
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Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/16/2013

Mama to Many: I thought you may be interested in this link: http://naturalsociety.com/admittedly-illegal-genetically-modified-soil-fungus-present-in-organic-products/

Sa: I would be very careful using any lotion. Sometimes I use Witch Hazel.

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Replied By Jessica (London, England) on 09/16/2013

Hello, I have experienced this same issue from time to time though never nearly to the degree to which you have. What helped me correct back to a normal stream is to drink about 4 glasses of distilled water throughout the day and I also drink a glass of water alkalized with a pinch of sodium bicarbonate late at night. Let us know what helps you.
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Replied By Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 09/17/2013

Kt,

Thanks for the link to the article! Very interesting... also a neat site I had never seen.

~Mama to Many~

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Replied By Sa (H, Kt) on 09/17/2013

Thanks Jessica, I will try baking soda remedy.

Thanks a lot Mama to Many for thinking about it, I read on some other site that I bend forward while urinationg this will straighten up my stream and it is helping a bit . Just to make things more clear I see sometimes two or three streams too. I drank apple cider vinegar for about 6 months but it did not help. I found the herbs in my area and I will be starting them now.

Kt can you please tell me did you have any other symptoms when you had stones in your kidney? As I do not experience any other symptom apart from abnormal stream. Thank you so much

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Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/17/2013

Sa, the abnormal stream was awhile before I started to experience the pain. It's been so long ago, it's hard to remember exactly. I know the pain got pretty bad and I could hardly walk, getting up in the middle of the night to go. Before I passed the one that ripped my ureter I had been having "trickles" no good flow. I later learned I had been eating too much spinach. I'm slow and piecemeal and my time is running out... Spinach contains oxalic acid... I just need to make sure I get adequate magnesium before ingesting spinach. Be aware that chocolate contains oxalic acid too.
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Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/17/2013

My memory is coming back... It's been over twenty years... I also had yeast and bladder infections until I started to change the way I ate. Even the order some things are eaten (for me anyway) makes a difference. It's been a piecemeal learning endeavor. I'm happy to say I am sixty-five and pain-free unless I eat something I shouldn't. Extreme sensitivity to MSG and it's hidden sources. ALL of our food has been affected by GMO's in one way or another.
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Replied By Stephanie (Las Vegas, US) on 06/03/2014

Urine is sterile and does not cause infections in any way. Bladder Infections are in the same place the urine comes out. Fecal matter from wiping the wrong way or bacteria from intercourse (not nurinating before and after) can cause it. But seriously? Pee is sterile...
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Replied By Jb (Texas) on 12/09/2016

Prolapse organs like bladder, uterus can cause spraying of urination. Detached urethra can do the same. Google condition and treatments.
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Replied By Dia (Usa) on 07/21/2017

Reading about troubles with skin irritation from urine exposure caused me to think I might find some sort of cream/lotion with bees wax in it.....possibly that would put a protective coat over the skin in "the lady parts" area. Just wanting to share in case it helps someone.
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Replied By SUNNY (Ca) on 09/05/2021

Do you have a prolapsed bladder? You should go to the doctor.
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