Jackie (Yaxley, Peterborough, United Kingdom) on 06/13/2013
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I have recently spent over Â£1,500 having surgery on my dog for a lip fold pyoderma. She is 12 years old and I thought it was her last chance. It came back almost straight away and I was so stressed as I didn't want to have her put down, but didn't have the money for procedures that the vet suggested. As a last resort I looked into a natural cure and by chance found this site. People on here seemed to recommend natural coconut oil and/or Allicin. I don't know which cured my dog, but within a week of using both these (relatively cheap alternatives) my dog is not only cured but fitter than she has ever been. Thank you so much to those of you who posted these remedies. Without you my dog would no longer be here.

Replied By Jen (Ireland) on 03/18/2014

Hi everyone... My golden cocker spaniel has been suffering with lipfold pyoderma for nearly one year. I've tried a lot of natural remedies but I just couldn't keep it at bay. I tried all of these methods for several months before changing to a new method. The main symptoms were oozing wound, stinky lips, rubbing her lips off couches etc. After drinking water the moisture seemed to gather in the folds. If I didn't bathe it twice daily there would be yellowish puss. So I tried:

Cider apple vinegar and warm water wash using muslin cloth X2 daily..dried with soft tissue and followed with organic coconut oil.

Same as above but using Himalayan salt in warm water (instead of cider apple vinegar).

Same as above but used a few drops of MILTON sterilising fluid.

Same as above but using anti-bacterial soap.

Then I tried germolene instead of coconut oil.

Then I tried Sudocreme instead of Coconut oil.

Then I tried to keep the area dry so did no washing and just wiped with a sensitive pet wipe with a small amount of tea tree oil spray on wipe.

I brought her to the vet and he said it was just her breed so he gave her an injection (steroids?) and anti biotic tablets. This didn't clear it and it seemed even worse a few weeks later.

Then..recently I got some cream for MY nose after having blood vessels cauterised. When I read up about it it mentioned that it killed the Staph bacteria which I knew was linked to lipfold pyoderma. I tried it with my dog by wiping a small amount into the lip fold using a Q-Tip twice daily. Within one week it was totally cured. Her lip is dry and clean with no bad smell. The wound is now sealed over and pink like scarred skin. She seems much happier and more comfortable. I am not a vet or doctor and I know human medicines shouldn't really be used on dogs but I was soooooooo happy to find a cream that worked that I just thought I'd share it with other dog owners.

The cream is called Naseptin: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ear-nose-and-throat/medicines/naseptin-nasal-cream.html

Replied By Theresa

(Mpls., Mn) on 03/19/2014

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Hey Jen!

Thank you so much for sharing your journey of healing for your golden cocker!

I had to take some time to review what you used:

Milton = an aqueous solution of sodium hypochlorite and 16.5% sodium chloride [cream strength of 2% sodium hypochlorite]: this is a sort of bleach/MMS.

Germolene = Phenol [carbolic acid] 1.2% and chlorhexidine digluconate 0.25%

Sudocrem = zinc oxide, benzyl benzoate and benzyl cinnamate [these ingredients are formulated to kill mites and other ectoparasites]

All these have all the right stuff - in theory - to knock out the lip fold pyoderma, but did not. the Germolene has the chlorhexidine as does the product that worked for you, but failed to do the trick in this formulation.

What did work for you was the Naseptin - Sourced from link in original post:

Naseptin = chlorhexidine hydrochloride and neomycin sulphate.

"Chlorhexidine gluconate has an antiseptic effect against a wide range of bacteria, yeasts, and some fungi and viruses. It kills the micro-organisms associated with various mild infections of the skin.

Neomycin sulphate is an antibiotic of the aminoglycoside type. It kills bacteria so is described as bactericidal in action. It works by entering bacterial cells and interfering with the production of proteins that the bacteria need to divide and multiply. This rapidly kills the bacteria.

This combination of ingredients is used to eradicate a type of bacteria called staphylococci from the inside of the nose. The cream is applied inside the nostrils both to treat and prevent nasal infections with this type of bacteria."

So it took combining the chlorhexidine with the neomycin to knock out the staph infection in your dog.

It appears this product is only available in the UK -darn it, as I would love to try it out on a few of mine! For those in the US the alternative remedy would be Ted's Anti-fungal/anti-staph solution, followed up with a OTC neomycin ointment.

Thanks so much for sharing!!

Replied By Sue (Uk) on 02/20/2015

Hey Jen & Theresa

My dog had a couple of small crusty spots appear behind her ear which then spread to her cheek & neck in just a couple of days!! The vets diagnoses was Superficial pyoderma, he prescribed a 10 day course of Rilexine 300 (antibiotics) and to bath her in dilute hibiscrub. He was insistent on clipping my dog back to the skin, ear, face & neck!!!! Is that normal procedure I wonder? I couldn't allow him to do this as surely her long thick coat has served as some protection against the scratching & spreading of infection.

Not feeling overly confident in our vet I did a little research and came across your posts & I have to tell you I'm convinced that 'Naseptin' did the trick, the scabs have gone after only 1 application & a bath, she still feels a little bumpy but the skin doesn't look angry at all, it hasn't spread further and the scratching has almost stopped. So thank you both so much for the detailed info :)

The story so far:

Day 1 (Arrived back from the vet too late in the day for a bath)

Applied Lucy Bees coconut oil & fed 3.6gms of tumeric mixed with raw feed, rolled into balls and hand fed (white coat, orange hands!! )

1 Anti biotic

Day 2 (Not much change prior to having a bath)

3.6gms tumeric

Mixed 20ml of hibiscrub, 60ml 'Earthbath' Oatmeal & Aloe shampoo (great for skin problems), diluted to make 300ml.

Gave 2 good shampoos (not forgetting in between the toes! ) & left on the coat for 5 minutes, dried thoroughly on a cool setting then applied the 'Naseptin'

She threw up the antibiotic! I dont know whether to continue with these, I know you are supposed to complete the course but she has only kept 1 tablet down...decisions, decisions

By the end of day 2, following the bath and Naseptin the improvement is quite amazing :)

I obtained the prescription only 'Naseptin' from the doc to treat a tiny little spot just inside my nose that would come and go, a common ailment, so quite easy to obtain ;) The prescription costs 2.30 if you get it online here

http://www.weldricks.co.uk/prescriptions/product/0037358_naseptin-cream-15g-prescription-item?gclid=COfi4_y98cMCFWjlwgod8hwAQA

Will keep you posted :)

Replied By Shereen (Connecticut) on 10/08/2015

Is there a specific type of coconut oil you recommend?

Replied By Tara (Bourne Lincolnshire ) on 10/20/2015

Hi my cocker is also suffering with this. We've had it nearly a year and also had a lip fold removed but it's the same as before! Can I ask what exactly you did to treat your dog? Thank you.

Replied By Sue (St Joseph, Mi) on 10/22/2015

Boy, can I ever sympathize with all of you. My dog has had problems with her lips for years. I have actually been to four vets trying to find the answer. I heard surgery didn't work so I avoided that. The last vet I went to said he had never seen a case so bad. He gave me a prescription and it cleared it up asap. The label is worn off a bit but I believe it says 5CC Gentocin, 5CC Dex SP added. It says to apply a generous amount to the affected area twice daily. I put it in an empty nasal spray bottle that misted the stuff out onto her lips and it really worked well. It eventually came back but I just misted it again for a couple of days and it went away again. The vet told me to do that. Oh, and I also tried many many natural things and homeopathy and nothing would clear it up. I hope this helps.

Replied By Kate (Raleigh, Nc) on 04/21/2017

I have a new dog who had this but do not think the owner continued care of it as she was dealing with her own health issues. I did not know what she had but bathed her in TJ's Tea Tree n Peppermint Shampoo and then used my expensive 6 13 WEN product as it helped my other pup when I rescued her (to the Vet's amazement, hair growing back in 2 weeks). This one she is licking n scratching less, I added salmon oil to her food, ACV to the water alternating bowls w/Bob's Red Mill's Baking Soda. She is getting garlic pill, calming pill and also longevity from Springtime Inc. All are working so far these past 3 weeks. She's getting another bath tonight, keeping her blankets clean as well. I did find this product when I searched holistic for the condition and it's sold on chewy and maybe in other stores. I have not used it but will consider it and then also adding Silver Wings 500PPM Colloidal Silver to her water and maybe topical as I use it for all virus' and infections. (The 500 PPM to be used for severe illness' etc for about 7 days then off for 7, on again if needed. I've used it often for so many things even my Mom's Shingles). I'm slowly adding Coconut Oil to her food and will consider brushing their teeth after seeing the other reviews. I can't do that personally, I've tried it on my own teeth.

Replied By Emanuel C. (Malta) on 07/28/2017

my dog aged 12 yrs has been suffering from Pyoderma (between back legs) for last 2 years. The Vet gave him antibiotics and isaderm cream.With the latter he improved but never healed completely. I read the articles about Naseptin cream and would like to try it as a last resort. From where can I get the prescription on line with a cheap price as our Vet charges Eur18.Thanks for your help.

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