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Anon (Anonym) on 06/02/2013
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Remedy: Hyaluronic Acid (small molecule), Collagen, Chondroitin

I have a herniated disc at location L4-L5. I'm in my 50s and have had it for 5 years. I tried glucosamine chondroitin with some Hyaluronic Acid (HA) in the past but I think the reason it did not help was the dosage and maybe stomach acid a little. I even tried to bounce on a ball to exercise my spine to get moisture into the spine but it didn't work. I realized that my body needed some nutrient. I was stumped.

I had been looking on and off for years on supplements for synovial fluids. The first failure with the supplement kind of dashed my hope. This past month, I did read Ted's post and saw that he was having success with 4 grams of horse HA in a solution divided up over 14 days with many people. I also read other posts on internet indicating that HA has positive effect on synovial fluid so I upped my dose and made sure I used small molecule kind.

I have taken the supplment for the last 7 days at a dosage of 5 caps in morning and 5 caps at bedtime which totals 500mg HA, 5000mg collagen 2000mg chondroitin per day. My back has dramatically improved. I could actually feel improvement after 2 days.

I can't tell you at this point whether it has cured my herniated disc but I don't feel that pain when bending. I will evaluate my progress every two months. I was hesitant about posting too soon but given the result so far, it should be the first supplement you take for this condition because it hits at the root of why the condition came about. You should get some chiropractor treatments if you have never done so.

I am lowering the dose to 6 caps a day and plan to keep taking it for at least a year. I am thinking that the body may now have everything it needs to heal naturally so I will just be patient and let nature do its job. I will adjust to fewer capsules if I see enough improvement in other areas also. I developed aged spots. That is another sign of deficiency. Maybe it will improve my eyes also.

The formula I use with small molecule Hyaluronic Acid also includes collagen and chondroitin. I am using Biocell. Many products use their stuff. Shop for the best price but make sure it contains the small molecule HA. Be aware that stomach acid neutralizes HA so take on empty stomach.

It should be noted that HA is another form of glucosamine except that it is much more effective. Glucosamine is for all practical purposes obsoleted by Hyaluronic Acid.

Replied By Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/03/2013

My post on Hayaluronic Acid above should have said 1000mg chondroitin per day in formula. I remember first time I looked for herniated disc, I didn't think to also look under ailment Degenerative Disc Disease

Replied By Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/16/2013

It's been about 3 weeks and my back feels pretty strong. I feel much younger. I don't walk like an old person any more. I am able bend down, carry and walk around for much longer periods of time than ever without waking up the next day with aching lower back. I had tenderness in other places along the spine that has disappeared. next time I go to chiropractor, I will take another inventory of tender spots.

The L4-L5 area seems to be the last remaining area that still seems a little tender but not as much as before. I don't feel it when bending but only if I press my fingers hard near that area. Given that it was injured the most, I would expect that to take the longest to heal. I will give that more time to heal before I put my lower back under a more heavier test.

Replied By Kelly (Cambridge, Ma) on 06/17/2013

It would be helpful to know much Hyaluronic Acid you've been taking per day. Thanks!

Replied By Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/17/2013

It was 500 mg HA per day for first week. Half in morning. Half at night.

It was 400 mg HA per day for second week. Half in morning. Half at night.

It is 300 mg HA per day for third week and after. Half in morning. Half at night.

I am 6'2" 240 pounds so I may need more. The intent was to load up my system faster. I don't think it matters when you take it but I just chose to split it up given the large number of tablets. As long as you take on empty stomach and there is enough water in body. I measure my body water by the color of my urine. Collagen and chondroitin work with SMALL MOLECULE HA.

Replied By Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/27/2013

Regarding my L4-L5 Herniated Disc

It's been around 4 weeks and my focal point of pain has shifted to my back hip on right and left side. I didn't realize that was hip degeneration. On hindsight, that's where it all seem to start necessitating me to sleep on air mattress. Before that, I could sleep on a hard bed. The hip pain started many years before the L4-L5 problem.

I expect it will take more time for the hip to heal due to the larger area. I haven't found any time estimates by other people except maybe people taking lower doses where their pain disappeared within a year so just playing this by ear. I think if my hip regenerates, I should be able to sleep on a hard bed.

Some person in another post indicated that a comfrey poultice cured him. I think that could be because they may be younger and/or their body provides enough HA to heal it. I think anyone with any beginning back problems should be on some small molecule HA as a preventive measure.

A long time ago I use to wonder why I had a weak lower back. I tried to lift weights to strengthen it but nothing worked. Looking back, it was a HA deficiency.

Replied By Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 06/28/2013

Prioris, you can snoop around on Katy Bowman's blog at alignedandwell.com. She advocates proper alignment of the body for dealing with a variety of ills. Her blog is free and has lots of info.

Replied By Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/28/2013

It has only been 4 weeks and I have made remarkable progress overall. I can feel progress being made on the hip part over this past week but I don't want to count my chickens until they ALL hatch. I need to understand what it's limitations are.

There has always been a school of thought that posture and alignment are important. I know if my synoptic fluid and spinal is completely healthy, I can sit with crooked posture and alignment and my back will recover and still be ok.

I have been going to a chiropractor for years to keep my back from getting worse. But those only compensate to varying degrees so it is covering up the real underlying problems happening inside the body. It may postpone things or hold the line to some degree but not address the root problems of what is causing things to go bad.

These herniated disc / slipped disc / degerative disc disease problems are very important to solve because they immobilize people to varying degrees. Most people who use conventional medicine - synthetic medicines and surgery - to address these problems are up the creek.

Replied By Rheerios (California) on 09/07/2013

I came upon this site, and, thrilled to find there might be some relief. I have herniated disk L5/S1 and in so much pain. A lot of this language is greek to me. Can you let me know where I can get the HA supplement? I would love to follow this regiment. Lately, I'm in bed a lot resting, icing, sleep is difficult. I am looking for some pain management too because I don't like the drugs the doctors want to give me. Thank you!

Replied By Cathy (New York) on 01/17/2015

YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE COPPER SUPPLEMENTS. The reason many of us have copper deficiency is because copper which is essential must bind with 2 proteins that our adrenals and liver must produce. Ceruloplasmin and Metallothionine. Because many of us have a lot a stress and eat a lot of toxins we are not producing a sufficient amounts of these proteins. Copper alone is toxic in the bloodstream it is highly conductive and produces free radicals. Your body will do 2 things try to excrete it and worse store the copper in deep tissue. http://www.holistic-back-relief.com/copper-toxicity.html

Replied By Michelle (Kentucky) on 06/24/2015

Could you provide a link to the site that you bought your supplement of HA? There are many biocell collagen type 2 out there? I would be so grateful for any directions on this. Thank you.

Replied By Kelly S (New Orleans) on 10/07/2015

I herniated discs at L4/L5/S1 with an annular tear as well. I did chiropractic treatments, had 4 spinal injections and, finally, consulted a neurosurgeon and an orthopedist for a second opinion and both said my only hope was a 2 level TLIF (spinal fusion). Knowing the risks involved in a fusion, along with the low success rate, I was devasted. However, I had not been able to work in 5 years and felt my life was over.

While waiting for my spinal fusion, I got desperate and started researching natural supplements. I found a supplement that contains collagen, hyaluronic acid (HA) and chondroitin sulfate and started taking it almost 3 months ago. My lower back is in less pain and, for the first time in years, I sat in a hard chair for more than a few minutes and was able to walk for 30 minutes yesterday! Neither of these tasks would have been possible just 3 months ago.

Even though it is still early in treating with these supplements, I am hopeful for a recovery that will allow me to work again and have a life again (especially since insurance denied the fusion). Had I not taken these supplements for myself, I would have never believed it! Also, per recommendations I found on the interweb, I am taking a "loading dose" of 8 pills a day (double the daily dose for the first 12 weeks) of the collagen supplement from The Vitamin Shoppe.

Replied By Nat (Europe) on 11/02/2015

Hey, Prioris. How are you doing so far? Still on a supplement regimen? Any further effects?

I'm planning to start supplementation for neck disc problems and it'd be very helpful to have a reply from you.

Replied By Ash (Woodridge, Il) on 12/18/2015

Hi, I have disc problem in my neck and a bone spur please help me with dosage and direction and what you took and quantity will be helpful. I'm in lot of pain.

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