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Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 04/27/2013

It's a new day, yes, thankfully. We overcome!

Has anyone tried to use witch hazel over a long period of time for prolapsed bladder. I use it topically for rashes and skin tags from 3-episiotomies that the skin couldn't hold the stitches and now are little skin tags, so fun..... NOT!

I know witch hazel is used to shrink hemmorhoids, in suppositories... I use it to tighten skin on my face, especially around the eyes. Basically love the stuff.

Been trying to put it in the vaginal cavity with finger and get bladder to go back up.

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Replied By Joy (Batttleground, Wash) on 04/30/2013

To UPDATE in the prolapsed bladder site my post on witch hazel.... Day 4, bladder is mostly up and I reapply the witch hazel with my finger if it drops but not until I notice it is down. Mostly it is up.

I AM SOOOOO THANKFUL TO HAVE RELIEF!!! Hope this helps all you fellow sufferers out there!

Been doing one application midday. There is a product that tightens the vagina with another plant astringent on amazon available. Witch hazel is less expensive. Plan to try some jojoba oil with it next.

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Replied By Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 05/04/2013

day 8 UPdate....... and bladder is > Up < most of the day , usually mid day reapply astringent in vaginal cavity ( witch hazel) when bladder drops down ..... and no more prolapse.

The product on Amazon is also a plant astringent they claim TIGHTENS cavity and aids in prolapse recovery....

I hope all the other women out there can find this post and get some relief from the pain of prolapse. Don't know how to get this FREE good news out ..... Not selling anything... Tried to get a women's site to post it but they are selling surgery and sorrow... So..... No post!


EC: Hi Joy, please send us the name or link from Amazon for posting on EC.

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Replied By Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 05/04/2013

Iso sensuals TIGHT
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Replied By Momxnine (Joplin, Mo.) on 07/02/2013

I just found this site and wanted to see if the witch hazel is still working. Been trying to figure out a solution for bladder prolapse for many years (I've had 9 babies and I need something! ).
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Replied By Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 07/02/2013

Every time I use it, it pulls the bladder back up into place.... Not a perfect fix -but MUCH BETTER than not using it. There is another person that uses red raspberry leaf tea to pull her bladder back into place, she drinks a lot of tea every day.

One more thing that helps a LOT is magnesium citrate.

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Replied By C (Australia) on 08/04/2015

Has anyone tried witch hazel for prolapse bladder while fitted with Mirena? And how long should I leave the witch hazel in for? Is there any interaction with the mirena because I tried the witch hazel and now I've started bleeding again.
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Replied By Denise (Lambertville, Mi) on 01/19/2016

Joy, can you do the witch hazel if you do vegafem cream nightly. ( estrogen cream)?
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Replied By Carol (St Petersburg, FL) on 04/26/2021

Please send me the brand name of a good Witch Hazel. I am so tired of the pain. Thank you.
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Replied By Charity (faithville, Us) on 04/26/2021

I always use the walmart cheap brand. Any plant that is astringent pulls things tight. Use a little cream if you use it a lot . I would use the walmart miconazole, not expensive and helps. That reminds me you can buy vagicaine right next to it to stop vaginal pain. Love that. I learned a lot with a stage 4 prolapse. I have battled it 11 years and >>> I am overcoming it. I do lots of raking, digging, dragging tarps of debris and yes I still have it but the pain is mostly a thing of the past. I use colace, store brand from walmart for any constipation issues, no cramps or runs. I use an inversion table > don't go all the way back, even putting blocks under the foot of bed would help, but I wouldn't sleep that way, just do it for 15 minutes a day or so . Give your pelvic a break. It's actually tendons and ligaments that hold that bladder in place. I am not sure but I think collagen affects that. Coughing is bad for prolapse. Underwear that hold lower pelvic tightly upward, but not push on stomach Because that pushes bladder down. Tension in the abdomen pushes the bladder down. I got the information on a pamphlet from the doctor that three organs can fall into the vaginal opening, so it's best to figure it out and save yourself from those others dropping. Magnesium is the muscle mineral. I good mineral supplement is important.

I would encourage you to go to youtube and watch Eric Berg on cortisol because stress is what led to my health issues and if I could have known I might have avoided a lot of suffering.

Here are my favorites ....faith that I am overcoming is number one because prolapse is very uncomfortable. Sit on a core ball to get relief. One pain trick is Oscillococcinum relieves body pain. Another is if you get in the bathtub up to your neck it tricks your body to think the pain is coming from a larger area and feels very relaxing. Drink water, water surrounding our skin pulls water out of our body.( prune fingers) MSM and Vitamin C for tissue repairs.

I use emerita phytoestrogen cream and progesterone cream in small amounts. I use progesterone inside the vagina and estrogen above the pubic hair line. I do this every day after a shower. For me it's the size of a pea of each one. I know if I miss a day.

I also use dhea 10mg one every four days to counter cortisol.

I can say I haven't tried castor oil packs on it but castor oil works on face pain, mouth pain, liver pain, stomach pain, back pain. Nicknamed palm of Christ. Messy miracle oil.

Currently, I am using a lot of comfrey, I make tea and then eat the leaves I made the tea from. I pick 5-7, 6" leaves a day. It regenerates cells.

I know a few people who had the surgery and lifted something too heavy once and had to have the surgery again. They were happy with the surgery. One was a neighbor with 9 kids.

I would also suggest a good chiropractor in case childbirth caused a misalignment issue in your spine. John Bergman on youtube teaches some very interesting insights on this subject. My sis in law had to have a hysterectomy and she was a mail driver. I think having a foot on the pedal all day could have misaligned her spine and created the circulation issues. Just throwing that out there. She is super fit, strong, amazing body. My spouse's family are physically capable of wonders. I do not have that type of body.

Lugols iodine drops in the vagina reset the uterus hormone and does wonders. I use one of those tiny sample spoons and put 3 drops up there, while on my back on a towel. Pretty messy. Iodine lowers selenium so be aware of that in your diet. Low selenium causes cancer to grow.

I use 20 mule team borax, a pinch a day in my water that I drink, and chanca piedra to keep from getting kidney stones as borax releases calcium out of soft tissue, wonderful to heal arthritis and joint issues. Borax affects hormones and when I get it right I don't have to pluck hairs on my face . ( mid 60's)

Vitamin d-3 and K-2 help process calcium and also horsetail herb.

I can't remember it all but you can pick and choose what you want to try. If you try emerita, use progesterone first and be patient it might cause distress at first but well worth it. Blessings, Charity

Replied By Magnolia (US) on 04/27/2021

Charity,

Could you tell me about the underwear that you referred to? Where do you get it, what exactly is it called? Thank you.

Replied By Charity (faithville, Us) on 04/27/2021

My prolapse had an added issue of bowel and bladder incontinence from the ruptured L-5 disc that started it all. I shop at Ross because they have lots of variety. I found some stretchy 5 % elastin and 95% cotton low/mid rise that fit snug and I noticed when I wore them I had less pain from the bladder bump hanging down because they were supporting it. I wore three pairs of underwear at a time and changed them if needed . I never bought adult diapers or thick pads because I also battled yeast infections from candida most of my life. I don't have those now unless I do some form of a detox. I pray a lot and study a lot and take a lot of supplements. Low B-12 can cause bladder leaks. I start most days with ox bile because cortisol stops the body from producing bile and affects digestion( and mineral absorption) and that would affect prolapse. I learned some digestion stuff from Eric Berg. My comfrey use this week has led to very restful sleep. My plants just started to get spring leaves and I'm hoping to get complete cell renewal full body. A miracle would be nice too, praying for those. Blessings, charity

Replied By Charity (faithville, Us) on 04/27/2021

Prolapse Pelvic Support Belt | Gave Me Confidence to Get Back to Life (braceability.com) I have not used this but read the reviewers, they seem happy and it supports all three organs that fall. Remember you have to treat the cause or it can get worse. Pain sucks.

Replied By KT (Usa) on 04/28/2021

I can't understand why my posts seem to been ignored. Years ago I reported that I have no doubt the capsule, whether gelatin or vegetarian caused my prolapse. I provided details of how I knew. Accumulated hidden sources of MSG cause this too. This was a result of piecemeal learning by the process of elimination over several years.

Previously I reported my GI tract rupture then discovering intussusception and the sever between the anal canal and colon. Both of my babies had been breech but only one was cesarean. So, I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. The reason I am saying all this again is because sources of MSG, especially capsules cause prolapse. The capsule alone was tested and was reported to be about 14 mg. of MSG.

I am in my 70's, weigh 100 lbs. and have no problem with prolapse until I ingest capsules. When prolapse occurs I use a tampon for a few hours or overnight. THIS REALLY DOES WORK. When my husband was alive, before he became ill, sometimes he helped (I don't think I have to detail how! ). C'mon ladies, try the tampons. In discovering this fact I sometimes had to use two but that was several years ago before I totally cleaned up my diet and had massive prolapse.
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Replied By Spring (US) on 04/28/2021

MSG can be a problem if you are low on L- Taurine, it's antidote.

How MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) is Hidden in Your Foods and its Antidote, Taurine - The Health Wyze Report

Replied By KT (Usa) on 04/29/2021

There is not enough time to wait for regeneration to "lift" and try to heal placement. In my opinion and in my experience tampons provide immediate placement and can give the ligaments a better time to attach and heal while holding in place. I don't have to do it often. This last problem was caused by taking 2 Serrapeptase in capsules early in the morning. After eating a Bromelain in capsule then about 3-4 hours later I took 2 stool softeners in capsules. This combo, even though spaced apart caused very uncomfortable prolapse.

Replied By Jacqueline (El Paso, TX ) on 11/21/2023

Dear KT, thanks so much for sharing your simple solution. It must sound odd to say this but I'm excited to try it as it seems like a very logical and hopeful solution. Thanks again, surprised you haven't received more feedback.

Replied By Connie (Cullom, Il) on 02/13/2022

What kind of Witch Hazel are you recommending?? There are toners? Astringents??
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