Ani (Ontario, Canada) on 04/02/2008
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Check out Honkanen V, Konttinen YT, Sorsa T, Hukkanen M, Kemppinen P, Santavirta S, Saari H, Westermarck T: Serum zinc, copper and selenium in rheumatoid arthritis. J Trace Elem Electrolytes Health Dis 1991, 5:261-263.
Also, there has been some success in treating RA with drugs that LOWER copper in the blood. Look at, for example, http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/510818
So giving copper to a RA patient who is already above normal in copper, is maybe worse than giving them calcium. I would say it is asking for trouble. Two months later the swelling in my wife's hand caused by a copper bracelet still hasn't come down.
Plus, if you really want to experiment with the possibility of destroying your health then just go to some hardware store and get some copper wire and wrap it around your wrists. It will only cost a dollar, instead of the 30 dollars or so for an expensive ornament. But I'd say, don't do that. Resist the temptation to look elegant. Take care of your health instead and don't even think of supplementing copper if you have RA. (Maybe osteo arthritis is different?)
Replied By anne (Roscommon) on 10/31/2024
I have RA and high copper serum levels. I'm trying to chelate with MSM but not sure if it will work. Don't know why you got one star, all information is necessary.EC: 1 star for the remedy, not for the post.
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Hi Anne,Humans need a balanced Copper/Zinc ratio. When copper level is high, zinc can help lower it and help to normalize the copper/zinc ratio by reducing the amount of copper your body absorbs as discussed here :
Here is a relevant quote from the article :
' Zinc reduces the amount of copper your body absorbs, and high doses of zinc can cause a copper deficiency. For that reason, many doctors recommend that you take 2 mg of copper along with a zinc supplement. '
People with Rheumatoid Arthritis often have low zinc levels as discussed here :
Here is a relevant quote from the study :
' Zinc levels in serum, erythrocytes and hair (in 74 patients with RA and 30 healthy individuals) were assessed by atomic absorption spectroscopy. The mean hair zinc content was significantly lower in RA patients as compared to healthy individuals (p < 0.001). '
Another study adds further confirmation to the idea that people with RA have low zinc levels as discussed here :
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7824316/
Here is a relevant quote from the above link :
' It has been known for decades that zinc decreases in the blood of RA patients. '
A decrease in zinc levels, which is typical in RA, can result in higher copper levels and according to the above link, that decreased level of zinc can also result in higher cadmium levels which can result in increased inflammation levels as well as act as a trigger for a specific form of nodular RA as mentioned in the following quote from the above link :
' Remarkably, cadmium exposure through inhalation is now recognized in the activation of macrophages to a pro-inflammatory state and suggested as a trigger of a specific form of nodular RA. '
Two other worthwhile supplements which can help to lower copper levels and promote overall health are Magnesium and Selenium as discussed here :
Here is a relevant article quote :
' Magnesium and selenium supplementation of diets resulted in increased apparent fecal losses of copper while no effect of manganese supplementation was found. '
Certain members of the B vitamin group, B3, B5 and B6 are also useful to help lower copper levels that are too high.
Too much zinc can create a copper deficiency.
This is information you can share with your doctor to help establish an adequate zinc supplementation dose which should be below 50 mg/day as well as an appropriate dose of selenium and magnesium if needed.
Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress!
Art