Giovanni (Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, USA) on 04/05/2013
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My dog Bella (11 year old, 10lbs, Shih Tzu) was diagnosed with CHF, Mitral Valve Disease with a # 5 murmur about 4 months ago. The Vet recommend we take her to a cardiologist, and the cardiologist immediately put her on Vetmedin, Benazepril, Furosemide, and Spironolactone. We saw some improvement for 2 months. I hated that she is on these Meds because the bad side effects.

While only the prescribed Meds, she still did not want to eat and each meal was a fight to get the food down. She was coughing badly, she had little energy, and looked very frail.

One day I came home and walked in the door. Bella got overly excited to see me come home. She was wagging her tail doing her little dance and barking as usual and then suddenly she collapsed to floor. She started convulsing and howling. She was in distress, her gums turned white and she felt cold. I thought she was having a heart attack. I thought it was truly the end and that she was going to die in my arms that day.

I rushed her to the VET. Bella thankfully pulled through what I later found out was a fainting spell. The Vet told me that she would have maybe 6-12 months to live and that she might require full time oxygen treatments to make her more comfortable and not to let her get excited at all as sudden death was a possibility. I disconnected my door bell, I prevented her from playing with my other two dogs. I did everything to keep her clam but she still looked and felt miserable. I was not going to sit helplessly watching her deteriorate.

After many hours / days researching on internet, talking to Dr's, and other dog owners about what "works". About 2 months ago, I found "in my opinion", a course of treatment that has unquestionably worked for my dog. I am now really convinced that she can live a long "normal" life if I keep her on this course of treatment.

Bella has significantly more energy, and has not fainted since starting this treatment. On this treatment, her breathing rate has drastically improved and is now 16 BPM while resting, before while only on the MEDS it was averaging 30 BPM. Bella's coughing has almost completely stopped (about 95% improvement).

We started by changing her diet to only freshly prepared foods that we make at home. NO MORE STORE BOUGHT DOG FOODS OR TREATS AT ALL.

Bella is a very picky eater so we had to experiment with what she would and would not eat. Any type of brown rice, carets, celery, apples, parsley, cucumber, is a no go! She will refuse to even look at the food bowl if it's in there, no matter how well you think you may have disguised it.

We discovered she loves ground turkey, and boiled chicken breast (all no salt or very low sodium). We mix in a heaping tablespoon of baked (microwaved) sweet potato in the turkey or chicken along with a teaspoon of olive oil, and a tablespoon of Quaker Oats (the quick one minute oatmeal in the big can with zero sodium) add some warm water too to the mix and serve. We also make sure she has access to lots of fresh water at all times.

Fair warning, the products below are not inexpensive. My dog is like my child, so I will do what it takes to keep her healthy. I researched each supplement to make sure I felt I was giving her the absolute best quality and best "form" of that particular supplement.

Here is an example; In my research I found It is best to use Propionyl -L-carnitine to treat heart disease and not Acetyle-L-carnitine or L-carnitine. Check the link out http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/carnitine-l-000291.htm

Below is exactly what I give to my 10lb Shih Tzu. Please check with your VET before giving to your dog. I found the best prices are on Amazon for everything listed below.

D-Ribose - By Doctor' Best. 1 heaping scoop, (twice a day sprinkle on food).
Ubiquinol QH-absorb (CoQ10) - By Jarrow Formulas 200mg, (1 pill twice a day)
Propionyl-L-Carnitine HCI - By Jarrow Formulas 750 mg, (1 pill twice a day)
Magnesium Taurate - By Cardiovascular Research -125 mg, (1 pill a day)
Mega Red Extra Strength Krill Oil, - By Schiff, 500mg (1 pill twice a day)
L-Arginine - By Jarrow Formulas, 1000 mg (1 pill a day)
Colon Green Fiber Supplement with Probiotics and Enzymes, - By Futurebiotics (Sprinkle 2 pills twice a day)
Esther C Vegetarian Capsules, - By American Health 500mg (1 pill twice a day)
Milk Thistle, 200mg (1 pill twice a day)
Senior Vitality Multi Vitamin, - By Optimal Pet (1 pill a day)

My dog is still on conventional medication (Vetmedin, Benazepril, & Furosemide), we weaned her off of the Spironolactone, and I hope to soon be able to wean her off all of these meds soon. I'm just waiting for her next cardiologist appointment in 2 months. I'm hoping the Dr. Can see and measure her improvement with another ultrasound.

Let me tell you this combo in my opinion, WORKS as I have seen the night/day difference in my dog. She now has the energy to play and run again. The best part is I have my dog back greeting me once again at the front door getting overly excited doing her dance and barking. Day by day she seems to continue to improve. It may not work for your dog but certainly is worth a try.

Replied By Shannon (Houston, Tx, Usa) on 06/07/2013

My ten year old Silky Terrier dog was diagnosed yesterday with a heart murmur. Number two on the scale. She has no outward symptoms such as coughing, wheezing or anything. She is very active and runs up and down stairs. Her weight is about 10 pounds. What can I give her to reverse or stop any progression of the murmur? And in what amounts for her weight?

Replied By Deborah (Chino Valley, Az) on 06/10/2013

Hi Shannon, Lots of information is available on this site re: heart murmurs in dogs. See the link - https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/heart-murmur.html

Sounds like some supportive care would be just the thing for your pup. Murmurs can definitely be dealt with in so many cases.

Good luck! Deborah

Replied By Steve Lewington (Wangi Wangi, Nsw, Australia) on 06/15/2013

Hi all, I would love some advice please as I have read all through these emails and am unsure how to get started healing our little fellow.

He is a 12 year old mini foxy cross chihuha around 6 pounds/

We have just got him home 2 days ago, from hospital, as he had trouble breathing , a cough and was weak.

They had him on oxygen, his heart rate was around 140 bpm, and his breathing around 80 bpm. These have come down a bit, heart is around 130 and breathing 40 bpm.

The vets have given him days to weeks to live. He is on Flusapex(diuretic) 0.5ml 2x per day

Vetmedin(Pimobendan) 1.25mg per day and Fortekor(Benazepril) 1.25 mg per day.

I want to start helping him to heal.

So far I have given him 1 Hawthorn Berry tablet, But split into 3 doses over the day, the brand is Mediherb. I have bought Cayenne, LCarnitine, D Ribose, Calcium Lactate, Krill oil with Astaxanthin, Ubiquinol 100 mg but am unsure of the amount to give him, eg do I weight the powders, and was scared of any interaction with his drugs. I asked the vet, but they couldn't understand why I would want to give him any more than the prescription drugs. We do not have any holistic vets , I did contact one who would do a consult over the phone, but they could not see him.

Could someone please help me put all this into perspective as I have so many questions, and cannot find the answers.

Steve

Replied By Om (Hope, B.c., Canada) on 06/15/2013

to Steve Lewington from Wangi Wangi:

Please give Coq10 from the health food store. That should support his little heart. In addition give Hawthorn tincture. Adjust the dosage for the tincture as per your judgement.

As a food and to strengthen his body give a small Teaspoon Royal jelly or Manuka honey or just plain organic honey in a drop of water, diluted, by syringe. Do this about hourly. Any internal bacteria will be killed by these. Please hug him for me. Om

Replied By Om (Hope, B.c., Canada) on 06/15/2013

Oh and I meant to say to get off those drugs!

Use your judgement and adjust if necessary. The natural remedies, such as hawthorn tincture, have been used for centuries. Ubiquinol can well be taken along with it.

The danger of chemical drugs and over medication must be kept in mind. Often these chemical drugs will stand in the way of improvement with safe herbs. If diuretics are necessary, use tea made with the whole dandelion plant. It will not have the side effect as the chemicals. Chemical diuretics remove valuable minerals/vits. from the body. Stinging nettle is also a good diuretic and will improve his mood while removing toxins. Om

Replied By Steve (Wangi, Lake Macquarie Nsw) on 06/16/2013

Thanks for your input Om.

I have started Teddie on Ubiquinol, DRibose, Hawthorn and Cayenne, but only small dosages. This amounts to two capsules. The Ubiquinol and D Ribose in one, and a small amount of Cayenne (100mg) in the other. The Hawthorn is from a pill cut into 3rds. I have been giving him this spaced out over the day and away from his medications. I am scared to just cut his medication as I do not want to lessen his chances, and the Vetmedin, gives him a lot of relief.

Last night we thought we were going to lose him, as he was struggling breathing, and seemed in pain.

He seemed a lot stronger during the day, and was walking around quite confidently.

Steve

Replied By Diane Cartwright (Modesto, Ca) on 04/19/2014

My 14 year old Llasa/Cocka/Poo mix has a significant heart murmur, a 4 I think the vet said, and was sleeping most of the day, lethargic, coughing and lacking energy. I take him to an alternative/integrative practice in Oakland, about 2 hours from here where the vet does acupuncture and prescribed Standard Process Canine Cardiac Support. It helps a bit. With her approval I also added non-alcohol liquid hawthorn berry, milk thistle extract, fish oil (not too much) and 30 mg. CO-Q 10 twice per day.

I also found Hampl Homeopathics in Australia with homeopathic remedies for the heart and a natural diuretic which are mixed in filtered hot water, cooled and gently syringed into Fritzi's mouth. He's a little resistant but it's worth the effort. Not long after getting this combination he's running both in the house and on his walks and acts like a puppy again. The CO-Q 10 is mostly present in the heart and other muscles so supplementing is very important as it decreases as we grow older.

Last vet check shows an improvement in his murmur and no fluid in his lungs. He's sleeping less and looks happy again. I only use conventional drugs as a last resort. Find a good holistic vet and you'll both be healthier and happier for a long, long time.

Replied By Cheryl (Santa Clarita, Ca) on 06/05/2014

Just thought I'd mention that since Steve from Wangi Wangi was told to add CoQ10 to his dog's diet even after he said he gave the dog Ubiquinol I thought I'd mention that Ubiquinol delivers a more bioavailable—or body ready form of CoQ10 (Coenzyme Q10). CoQ10 is an important nutrient found throughout the body, but your body must break it down into a usable form. That usable form is ubiquinol, and over 90% of the CoQ10 found in your body is stored in the form of ubiquinol, a “ready-to-go reserve” of CoQ10 power. So, basically they are the same thing, it is just that Ubiquinol is bio ready.

Replied By Alicia (Maui, Hawaii) on 06/29/2014

Thank you for this concise list. I plan on adding these supplements to my existing routine of taurine, CoQ10, and fish oil. My vet approved the list and amounts.

My Elvis is a 7 yo King Charles Cavalier and has a grade 4 murmur. I see him slowing but improvement with the above supplements. So difficult to keep him calm when we come home or walk time.

For the person with the older dog with a grade 2.....I would supplement and not worry. Most older dogs and people will experience a heart murmur.

I plan on adding several of the supplements to my own daily routine.

Love and light to all our fur babies. Enjoy the special moments each day. Aloha.

Replied By Diamond (Ma, US) on 06/30/2014

Thank you for your message, every message helps another in need such as my self. I have a very old Cock-a-Poo, she is appox. 15 or 16 years of age. Last month she got very sick, she had no use of her legs at all, she just stayed in her little bed for over a week. However she did eat, I made her organic oatmeal cooked veggies then added salmon oil caps.

I prayed every single day for her recovery, also not to let her live if she were to suffer any further. Then on a Tue. I said to my husband that we need to take her and have her put to sleep as she showed no signs of getting up to walk and go potty. She looked really sick. Then by that same week on a Wed. she got up and walked out on her own to go potty. She is now still our little demon we all love so much.

God Bless every one and especially our animals. They so need us and our help to keep them safe and healthy. A friend of mine always for years cooked or steamed her dogs people food, then chopped it up and fed him a small amount at a time. He lived a very long time. When she passed away I took him home, the worse and saddest thing I ever did was the vet suggested I feed him dog food, so I fed him dog food and eventually he died from many illnesses. Follow your heart. Peace

Replied By Kayla (Brisbane, Australia) on 01/28/2015

Hello,

I would like to know how your beloved pet is? Are the supplements you are using for her for humans also or are they especially for dogs? I've heard of some people using human supplements to treat their dog?

I hope to hear from you. Kayla

Replied By Linda (Huntington Beach, Ca) on 03/07/2015

So encouraging to hear that these various herbs/supplements are a potential hope for for our fur babies with heart problems. Alicia, could you please share what the dosages are that you give to your cavalier? And what has the effect been since you started? I have a-9-year-old 21-lb Cav. & I'd like to start implementing some of these as well for he has a heart murmur of 4/5. He's been on the Benazapril for about a year and just started the Lasix and Vetmedin 2 months ago but the coughing only decreased for a short amount of time and it seems to be back. We just lost his sister 3 months ago on her 9th birthday-she was increasingly put on more rx (increased from 2 to 5 medications over her last year ) so I'd like to add something new this time. I blanch and boil veggies, fish, chicken & egg whites along with fish oil. Thanks so much. Any concrete info on dosages & experiences is appreciated.

Replied By Car (Illinois, US) on 03/20/2015

Hello All, I have a 15yr old terrier mix. She just passed out on me a couple days ago. Vet diagnosed a heart murmur, also said she had bronchitis and was given antibiotic. I'm wondering if it could be the food. I'm feeding her Blue Buf Senior soft and hard food. I really don't want to put her on all kinds of medicines. Has anyone found supplements that work? Any and all suggestions that have worked with your pets are appreciated. Thanks for your time.

Replied By Om (Hope, Bc Canada) on 03/20/2015

Reply to Car --- I have an old rescue poodle who gets Hawthorn tincture with a few drops of water in a syringe three times a day. I put 20 drops into a syringe and divide this over the day. Read up on hawthorn as an herb. It takes about three months of this regimen to strengthen the heart. You can add CoQu - 10 ubiquinol to it. H. is an old well known remedy used for hundreds of years. Side effects = stronger heart and well being.

Namaste, Om

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(Mpls., Mn) on 03/20/2015

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Hey Car!

When I read your post I thought "bronchitis = coughing"; it sounds like your dog has been suffering for a while now for the cough to have turned into bronchitis. It is possible there is a food connection, however IMHO for a 15 year old terrier senior I am thinking genetics is the real culprit here. You dog may have had a heart murmur for years and only now has it gotten worse - chronic cough - so as to become obvious.

I like Om's suggestion of Hawthorne; my only dislike of that particular remedy in this particular case is that it takes 12 weeks to take effect vs relatively rapid relief from meds from the vet.

If you read the posts there are many things to consider that over a period of time do provide healing and relief. I will only add that keeping your pet's weight down is very beneficial with this condition, and that the Blue Buffalo Senior appears to be a fine diet.

Replied By Thuy (San Diego, California) on 04/13/2015

Hi Giovanni ( Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. )

I read your dog, Bella's story, I am very interesting because my dog has CHF also, he is in poor health now, I have tried Hawthorn, CoQ10, D-Ribose along with the prescription, his fluid build up very fast, we have to bring him to the Vet to drain the fluid out every 4 weeks. I wonder how your dog, Bella is doing ? is she still on medication ? or you can be able to wean off the Vetdemin and Benazepril ? I hope you can read this and I am looking forward to hear from you.

Thank you, Thuy

Replied By Monica G. (Manila) on 04/19/2015

My 8-year old lhasa apso has been diagnosed with CHF a month ago. He's hypothyroid and has been suffering from yeast infection, ascites (fluid buildup) and has been coughing. His ECG is normal. He's on Lasix now, twice a day and I feed him a high protein, low salt diet. I know that there's no cure for CHF but I'm willing to try anything to prolong the life of my dog. I'm currently using two organic natural supplements that I believe, helped in improving my dog's stamina and appetite. One is Coco Nectar, which is rich in amino acids. I'm also giving him Moringa/Malunggay oil capsules, once a day. Moringa can supply his body with all needed vitamins and minerals. Since taking these two food supplements, my dog is now eating well, has improved energy and alertness. He is still on Lasix but I'm hoping that the ascites will improve later on. I will look for COQ10 and will add that as well to his regimen.

Replied By Paulina (Manila) on 02/20/2016
May I ask where you took your dog for ECG in Manila? Did you take him to a veterinary cardiologist? Thank you.

Replied By Aaron (Japan) on 06/16/2015

Hello,

I am glad that I found very helpful information, so decided to start with cardio plus and cartaplex b and cartaplex G for my dog(french bulldog, 9years old - he had congestive heart failure).

What I am wondering is, Do I need to have my dog with taurine and L-carnitine, ubiqinol?

My dog have been taken them so far, but start with cardio plus, I am just wondering, because the ingredient have no taurine.. so please kindly let me know. Thank you!

Replied By Mike (Ny) on 08/13/2015

y 15 lb mini poodle dianosed in feb with congenital heart disease, mytral valeve problems.put her on enelaril, spiroloctonate, vetmedin and lasix.i started giving her taurine, l carnitine arginine and co q 10 and fish oil, 6 month checkup shows enlargement of heart. She is stable no increase in drugs. Dr was a vet from the uk and was super nice. He loved the idea I was giving supplements. He was a new dr the old dr said she didnt know anything about supplements. Made me feel good to know I found a dr who like natural as well. So I now give her 100mg magnesium and celeryseed extract as a diuretic along with her lasix, she is doing great, her breathing has improved and she still running and jumping and playing with no cough.

Replied By Michelle (Detroit Mi) on 02/29/2016
Hi Mike, I How is your pup doing? I have a poodle as well with the same problem. Are you getting supplements specifically for dogs or are you using human kind and what dosage?

Replied By Mike (Brooklyn, Ny) on 03/08/2016
My gigi is doing well over 1 yr after diagnosed with chf. I use use human supplements: hawthorne, cayenne, taurine, arginine and coq10.fish oil also. She has slight cough when she gets excited.

Replied By Val (Nz) on 10/21/2015

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Replied By Shveta (India) on 12/08/2015

How much quantity of Hawthorn to give a 8 pound chihuahua?

Replied By Debbie (Tx) on 12/21/2015

FYI- Blue Buffalo is a horrible pet food. it has had many recalls, is in a lawsuit right now and dogs have died from eating the food. A homemade diet is best.

Replied By Scott (Boston) on 01/02/2016

Hi Mike,

Is your dog still on the rest of the meds or just lisik. My 19 pound 11 year old Chiuauhauh is on all 4 meds with no supplements and canned and dry Science Diet. Coughing is pretty bad but better since on the meds. I also have a place to get the meds super cheap. Save you alot of money.

Replied By Laurie (Nh) on 01/14/2016

Hi Giovanni,

Thank you for sharing your experience, I am considering ordering the products you recommended but would love to hear an update and if you were success at weaning off all meds.

Thank you

Replied By Brittany (Los Angeles) on 01/22/2016

Hi there, thank you so much for your post as I too am really big on the holistic vet - yet I have not seen one yet. My little guy who's a Maltipoo is 7 weeks old (he was not properly cared for by the previous owner so that's why I have him so young) and he has a heart murmur..the one and only vet I've seen so far, said his heart murmur is probably about a 5. I have not seen the cardiologist yet and I'm not sure if he's too little to be taking any over the counter healthy meds?

Replied By Kiki (Usa) on 01/25/2016

My mini dachshund just had a dental today that was very risky. Her murmur is a 4. But, instead of her living on antibiotics with a raging dental infection, we took the chance. Her bloodwork looked great ahead of time. Just found out she came out of it fine! Whew!! BUT, I was wanted to get the correct Standard Process supplements to help HEAL her murmur and enlarged heart. How do you get them? This vet is not holistic nor can I find one around here. Thank you.

Replied By Mickie's Miracle (Austin, Texas) on 01/27/2016

To Giovanni:

Thanks so very much for your list of supplements you gave your shitzu, Bella. We have two shitzus, male and female that are 10 years old. Mickie developed a heart murmur about 3 years ago due to flea allergy, infection that even after doing everything to keep our yard, environment flea-free with natural products and treatment for Mickie and several hundred dollars in vet bills later, I finally discovered by researching key ingredients to treating were Taurine (source, turkey liver) and L-Carnitine, L-Lysine, Co-Q10 were vital. So I found one formula of Blue Wilderness Small Breed (pink bag) that had these. I started feeding Mickie that, and chopped organic carrots, apples, raw pumpkin seed (treats parasites, as well as other benefits), peas (high in fiber), cooked beef liver, chicken mixed in.

Mickie started making an immediate and amazing recovery ... becoming more playful, energy, etc. and not one seizure in more than a year! PTL! (prior to ... had several over a few months). Now, with added supplements that you suggested, he is doing so much better. But Christmas day, 2015 we actually lost him during the night ... suddenly no breathing, no life at all... BUT we immediately started praying, anointed him with oil from Israel, massaged his chest, and in a couple of minutes, life came back into his little body; when I put him gently on the floor, he had a couple of "burps" from his chest to tail (organs restarting). Hallelujah! Mickie was literally resurrected! Mickie's Miracle! He is a precious gift from God and I know God cares so much for us that He also cares for our precious pets, his creation; especially when we love, care for them. The only supplements I need to add now, and ordering/buying today are: Ubinquinol (best Co-Q 10), MegaRed Krill Oil (although I've been using organic Norwegian fish oil with vitamins, made by Shed-X (highly recommend) and the Colon Greens Fiber Supplement with probiotics and enzymes. All of these ingredients, as well as amino acids (Swanson AjiPure Cardio Aminos with L-Lysine, L-Argnine, L-Proline and Taurine) are so very vital to the well-being, health of your pets (dogs), especially when they age.

So, once again, thanks so very much for your supplement list and helping me add what Mickie needs. God bless you and all who love their pets, give them the best care, holistic food possible! May your pets be blessed with long, happy lives!

Mickie's Miracle

* Jeremiah 29:11-13

Elaine

Replied By Michelle (Detroit, Mi ) on 02/28/2016
Hi Mickie's miracle. What a awesome testimony. Are you using the exact dose and brand that was listed? If different, can you tell me what you're using. Thank you. Would like to help my poodle, Fredom.

Replied By Val (Ks) on 03/25/2025
What oil did you rub your dog with? My dog recently had an event like this my mom said she was dead and I'm so afraid it will happen again :(

Replied By Michelle (Detroit, Mi ) on 02/27/2016

How is you dog Bella doing now..years later? My dog Freedom is going thru the same thing. I order the supplements you suggested. Thank you

Replied By Elaine (Austin, Texas) on 04/08/2016

Michelle,

I'm using close to the exact dosages Giovanni recommended. Keep in mind your dog's breed, size and just monitor how he does, use your own judgement. I can tell you that these supplements have been wonderful in keeping Mickie healthy, and without seizures for over a year, along with healthy food. We feed the Blue small breed chicken recipe, dry with chicken, peas, carrots, apples mixed in.

The Blue Buffalo brand has these key ingredients for heart health: taurine, l-lysine, l-carnitine and others that are beneficial.

All the best for your precious pet!

Elaine

Replied By Molly (Los Angeles) on 08/16/2016

Hello, I am glad I found this article and discussion. I have a 2yo, retriever/cocker mix and he was diagnosed with heart murmur 2. I bought Vetri-Science Cardio Supplement and my dog can't digest it ( he gets diarrhea every time I give him the supplement). Can you please suggest a supplement that may not cause this? or what may cause the digestion problem?

Thank you,

Molly

Replied By Theresa

(Mpls., Mn) on 08/17/2016

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Hello Molly,

Dosage for this product is 1 capsule per 30 pounds daily; it may just be you are giving too much at once. Try splitting the tablets in half and see if your dog can digest the lower dosage. You might even cut the capsules into quarters and then gradually build up to a full capsule.

Replied By Shannon (Houston Tx) on 08/17/2016

I wanted to give an update on my dog and want to encourage everyone else to update on how their dog is doing after giving them the supplements. As I posted in 2013, my dog was diagnosed with stage 2 heart murmur. At that time I found this site and found the recommended supplements. I have been giving my dog Ribose, CoQ10 and Canine Cardiac Support. So far her heart murmur seems not to have progressed at all. Every time we take her in for a checkup she is fine. As far as I know the murmur is still there but not any worse. She has no or very little coughing. So basically she is doing well.

EC: Thank you so much for updating us!

Replied By Travis (British Columbia) on 10/02/2016

Hi there, the hawthorne tincture you give your dogs ..does it have alcohol in it??? That is all I can find...my norfolk is diagnosed with a grade 2 heart murmur and an a bit of enlarged heart.... Thanks, Travis

Replied By Jaime (Cambridge, Ontario) on 10/12/2016

Thank you for sharing your experience. I intend to use your regiment as my chihuahua Bababooey has the same level 5 murmur and breathing issues. I have shared your list of supplements with my vet and the only concerns was that the vitamin C is very high and not recommended as it will cause kidney stones. As well she had a concern that the magnesium dose was also high. I hope we can achieve the same good results. I hope Bella is still doing well and wish to thank you again.

Replied By Rosemary (Florida Panhandle ) on 11/06/2016

My 7 year old chihuahua was just diagnosed with a heart murmur. She has no outward symptoms. Just heard the murmur at the vet a couple days ago. Did labs that were normal no proBNP yet. Chest X-ray didn't show anything significant. Scheduled for an ultrasound next Friday. The Dr is talking about heart meds which I am against. I guess I will know more in a week.

Replied By Nia (San Diego, Ca) on 11/09/2016

Do you give your dog regular medications too or just those supplements?

Replied By Darcy (Kihei) on 11/13/2016

What it comes down to is diet.These dogs are often sick because of a processed, devitalized diet.In the wild, they eat raw meat. If you want to address the health problems, then try and feed them a diet that at least partly resembles what they have eaten for hundreds of years, and that's RAW meat.When you cook it, you ruin the enzymes and the water content.There are good vets, (you can find on YouTube, )that can teach you how to feed your pet a raw meat and vegetable diet.It is not that difficult to do. In the long run, it is less expensive too, (no vet bills). My dog had that awful hacking cough, kidney failure, severe lethargy, severe atopic allergic dermititis and hypothyroidism.ALL of these conditions resolved when I changed to a RAW diet.You have to spend a little more time making it but the rewards are astounding for your dog (or cat).

Replied By Shannon (Los Angeles, Ca) on 12/03/2016

My dog, a dandie dinmont terrier, suffers from MVS, CHF, and heart murmur. hes on all 4 of the meds that you mentioned and I also, like you, researched what else was out there to help them. the regimen I use is very similar to yours...i use a lot of standard process supplements and COQ10 is really amazing. his cardiologist gave oscar about 6 months back in may when he had his first failure and had to spend 3 days in an oxygen tank. after 3-4 months of his medication plus the supplement program I developed for him, hes the most energetic ive seen him in years! I was bringing him in for check ups every month. the last one, in october, his doctor was amazed at his disposition and told me unless I obviously need to, he doesn't need another check up for 5-6 months! These supplements DO work and im so glad its catching on. even if it does end up shortening his life, at least I know he's comfortable and happy. if he doesnt have quality of life, theres no point.

Replied By Don (New York, Usa) on 01/02/2017

I recently adopted a shelter dog with a heart murmur and pretty heavy coughing. I use Hawthorn berry extract from Pet Wellbeing. Simple directions, shipped once a month or more as needed. The results are very favorable. Very little coughing, frisky, happy dog. I have two Hawthorn trees in my yard and am going to make my own. They have kept me off of heart meds for several years now. Good luck with your Dog. Don

Replied By Ms. Jerry D. (Pensacola, Fl) on 01/04/2017

Hawthorne Berry Tincture without Alcohol at Swanson.

Replied By Deborah (Ne) on 03/01/2017

I would love to try this regime but I have a tiny 3.5lb Pomeranian who is 11 years old. She has been on Benazepril .5mg. per day and Vitamedin .75mg morning and .25mg night. She has no energy and is still coughing. She has a heart murmur was told it was only grade 2 but had a hard time coming out of anesthesia after teeth cleaning and he did an xray and said her heart was a little enlarged so he put her on cardiac meds. They are expensive because the benazepril has to be compounded at a pharm. because she is so tiny. So I am paying 100.00/month. How would I know how much to dose her at for her size? I would appreciate any help you could give. Did your dog act like she had a hard time breathing thru her nose? I thought she had allergies not heart problems.

Replied By Cheryl (Phx, Az) on 04/04/2017

What form all of these supplements in? Are they all separate tablets/capsules? My dog has heart murmers and is on many pills but is losing so much weight.
MMy vet is suggesting a heart diet food but along with the meds he takes it really will be costly. I am looking for homemade heart healthy recipes but they all seem to have stuff in them that will end up also being pricey.

Replied By Shannon (Houston) on 04/05/2017

Another update on my Silky Terrier. She's 14 now and was diagnosed at age 10 with stage 2 hear murmur. Yesterday she had her checkup and the vet could barely hear any murmur so 4 years on the cardio plus, co-Q10 and D-Ribose and prayer has worked for her.

Replied By Siew (Singapore) on 06/04/2017

Hi my cavalier is 8+ years old and been diagnosed with stage c mvd. She's on vetmedin, frusemide and benazapril starting today. I cook for her daily and supplement with fish oil, spirugreen, multivit. I want to start her on coq10. But not sure of the dosage. She is 7.15kg or 16 lbs. can someone advise?

Replied By Vicki C. (Ky.) on 07/18/2017

Recently I had to buy heart meds for my Chihuahua for a heart murmur and heart failure. Rather than just buying a one month supply from my dog's vet, I asked about getting a three month supply (just like I do for my own meds). It was only a few dollars more! I was surprised, and of course I bought a 90 day supply, which saves me gobs of $$$$$. Just wanted to pass this on, in case some of you may have not thought to ask about that!

Replied By Medisa (Berkeley, Ca ) on 07/23/2017

Hi, Could you give me the name of the holistic vet in Oakland that you took your dog to? My dog was diagnosed with a heart murmur and I have been trying to find the best treatment for him.

Replied By Mary (Australia) on 08/05/2017

Hi Siew, did you find out the dosage as I would also like to start my Zac on COQ10 but unsure what dosage. Thanks Mary

Replied By Sarah (Usa) on 08/07/2017

Be careful using d-Ribose. I was giving my 10 lb dog half the dose recommended here and it was crashing her blood sugar. (Hypoglycemia is a known side effect of ribose.) If you choose to use this supplement, please watch your pup closely for signs of weakness, tremors, distress, especially 1-2 hours after taking it.

Replied By Paughnee (Texas) on 08/11/2017

How long did your dog live taking all these supplements or is your dog still alive? I'm going to follow what you did and give it to my dog. She is 13 pounds so there shouldn't be any difference in the amounts.

I was curious as to where you got all this info? Did you see a holistic vet and they told you what to try and how much to give to your dog or did you just do research? It just seems like a lot of each one to give to a small dog.

Also, how did your dog react when you first started giving them and about how long did it take to notice a difference? My dog is having diarrhea after giving them but I also know it is probably cleaning the junk out of her. If it lasts too long then I will have to cut back on them or stop.

I have been giving my dog hawthorn berries and I noticed pretty fast that her coughing decreased to maybe 1 or 2 every 3rd day. I also have been giving her "kidney support" by Pet Wellbeing. With her being on the regular meds the vet gives and especially the diarectics, she needed something to protect her kidneys since it is so hard on them. She had diarrhea after first taking that but it soon went away.

The problem I am having now is her appetite and low energy. I was searching for something that would help her and I found your old post.

I hope to hear back and see how your dog did and what it went through when taking them.

Thanks

Replied By Karen (Rahway Nj) on 10/21/2017

Hi everyone
Thanks so much for this post! My 9 yr old, 23lb Boston terrier has stage 3 CHF with fluid in his lungs, and he is on the usual drugs--vetmedin, lasix and enalapril. We had a recent scare and he got heavy dosages of lasix and spent the night in an oxygen tank. I hate relying only on the meds, especially since I read how hard they are on the kidneys and his cough doesn't seem to be going away (it's a dry cough that ends in a hack).

I recently added 30mg of Coq10....not sure if it should 1 or 2x a day? And I want to add in alcohol free Hawthorne, fish oil and maybe taurine. I'm just not sure of dosage and if any of that will interfere with the meds....I'm not comfortable taking him off the meds :( my vets are dismissive of the supplements which is not helpful at all.

I really really really appreciate any help or advice you guys can offer. I'm desperate to help him

Thank you!!!
Karen

Replied By Thuy Tran (San Diego, Ca) on 11/18/2017

Hi Karen, you should try Hearty heart ( google NHV hearty heart pet health- all buyers said its good ), it has Hawthron in there also and this supplement don't interfere with the medication. You should take him to the Cardiologist ASAP and its great if you could find Holistic Vet for him. I hope this can help your dog get his energy back .

Replied By Kathleen (Virginia) on 11/28/2017

What did you use for supplement brands?

Replied By Jean (Ky) on 11/29/2017

You should try NAC instead of the lasix. It will act as a diuretic w/o the side effects. Figure the dose from a human dose down to the weight of the dog. I was told to do this instead of a diuretic or steroid for my dog. The advice came from our holistic vet.

Replied By Debra E (Madras, Or) on 12/26/2017

My beagle Tasha has a high grade heart murmur. She has been on enanapril and laziks. Last week she could not stand up. The vet put her on vetmedin. her heart rate was 145 at the time. I took her back to the vet and she said her heart rate was 170. the vetmedin seems to stop her coughing, but I have to force feed her. she will get up to drink water and pee outside.

I would like some advice on something to bring her heart rate down and something to entice her to eat. please help. I lost my jack russel who was 17 and my 20 yr old cat one week apart last year and 2 weeks after that Tasha was diagnoised with cancer. she had a tumor removed from 1 of her tits, and handled chemo, without any problems. shes all I have left. Shes 13 thank you for any info

Replied By Dianne (Ga) on 01/23/2018

Can you please post a few recipes for a raw diet. I have a 10-year-old, 17 lb. chihuahua. He has a 2.5-grade murmur, he coughs a lot and his breathing is labored. I give him Hawthorne, Milk Thistle, Dandelion, and Burdock, 1 capsule of each 2 x a day. He still has fluid build up also. I am going to add COQ 10 and need something for the fluid, any ideas? Thank you.

Replied By Blessedmama (Ramona, Ca) on 02/02/2018

It is so wonderful to read all your positive and encouraging posts. Can anyone list the supplements they give their dogs and the dose amount? This would be for my 11lb doggie. Thank you in advance and God bless you!

Replied By Chris (Australia) on 02/07/2018

All I'd like to say is that if your dog is coughing, diuretics will make it go away. Whilst I believe in natural therapies and have my 18yr old Maltese x Shih tzu on some natural remedies, not limited to but including, turmeric, fish oil, chondroitin, glucosamine and CoQ10, there will be a time (which is likely already there for some of you) where you will need to use a conventional heart drug such as Pimobendan (Vetmedin). The drug works miracles for dogs and the side effects are minimal in my experience, my dog has both increased appetite and energy on the medication. Please don't ignore conventional medicine, it works the same way in humans, digoxin is the equivalent of Pimobendan in animals. I hope many of you listen to this and that your dog lives on for many years.

Replied By Kathleen (Virginia) on 02/28/2018

My 13 yr old Pom has a heart murmur. Mitral valve. What is Ribose? Also how much COQ10? What brand? My Pom weighs 14 lbs. Hawthorne scares me as it would be easy to get the wrong kind. I take krill Oil Myself, if that would help my Pom, I can give her that but how much? Dog food is an issue. I make it with boiled chicken, Peas,, Carrots, Sweet Potato, but is she getting all the nutrients she should? I will not use Blue Buffalo. (Recalls). I want her on good supplements instead of medications. But I want to do as few as possible as I think too much added can be dangerous. Please advise on The COQ10 and maybe 2 others that are critical. Thanks.

Replied By Kathleen (Us) on 02/28/2018

Where did you get those supplements for your dog Never heard of Ribose? My Pom is 14 lbs with a heart murmur. Mitral Valve.

Replied By Maggie (Idaho) on 03/05/2018

My dog is a mini poodle, 13 years old. She had a dental last year, had blood work and echocardiogram and everything was good except for the small heart murmur. When I found out she had the heart murmur, I looked to see what to give her so it doesn't get worse. Hawthorn is an herb and the berries are what is used for the heart. I buy the capsules. Most capsules are too big for my dog since she may be having throat problems so I empty the capsules in another vitamin bottle and then put some in her food. It doesn't taste bad. I bought a measuring spoon set that measures tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, and drop and I use that to give my dogs and cats their supplements in their food if I can't give them the capsules. Most capsules are too much for small dogs. I always taste whatever supplement I'm going to give them to see if it's bitter because if it is, they won't eat the food you put it in. I give my dog Hawthorn, D-Ribose, and L-Carnitine for the heart, a "pinch"(1/16 teaspoon) of each, twice a day plus other supplements. I was going to give her COQ10 but read something that I didn't like so I'm not giving it to her.

I used to feed my dogs Blue Buffalo but then decided to cook their food. Now I give them boiled chicken and a lot of different vegetables. Tuna, hamburger, and turkey every now and then, just for something different. They get a vitamin supplement every day.

Replied By Maggie (Idaho) on 03/05/2018

Don't know if you got a reply on where to get D-Ribose but you can get it at most vitamin stores or online. It's not cheap but if you look around, you can get it at a good price.

I too have a small dog with a heart murmur and I give her

L-Carnitine

D-Ribose

Hawthorn Berries

Replied By Maggie (Idaho) on 03/05/2018

My dog is a mini poodle, 13 years old. She had a dental last year, had blood work and pet scan and everything was good except for the small heart murmur. When I found out she had the heart murmur, I looked to see what to give her so it doesn't get worse. Hawthorn is an herb and the berries are what is used for the heart. I buy the capsules. Most capsules are too big for my dog since she may be having throat problems so I empty the capsules in another vitamin bottle and then put some in her food. It doesn't taste bad. I bought a measuring spoon set that measures tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, and drop and I use that to give my dogs and cats their supplements in their food if I can't give them the capsules. Most capsules are too much for small dogs. I always taste whatever supplement I'm going to give them to see if it's bitter because if it is, they won't eat the food you put it in. I give my dog Hawthorn, D-Ribose, and L-Carnitine for the heart, a "pinch"(1/16 teaspoon) of each, twice a day plus other supplements. I was going to give her COQ10 but read something that I didn't like so I'm not giving it to her.

Replied By Jackie Cross (Erie, Pa) on 03/10/2018

my 10 1/2 year old Pomeranian is also suffering from heart murmur and mitro valve disorder. Am going to try the fresh food diet and the supplements but was wondering how you get your fur baby to take the supplements. My Pom knows when I disguise them and will not take them. Was looking for suggestions on that. Thank you. I was inspired by your story. Thank you

Replied By Nicole (Ct) on 03/15/2018

Hi, how is your Cav doing? My cav was just diagnosed with a grade 4 murmur as well. What is the natural remedy you have, and how is it helping?

Replied By Sandra (Nc) on 04/06/2018

My Female English bulldog has a heart murmur and had CHF. She is on meds. She takes Lasix, Spironolactone and Benazepril. She has fluid on her tummy and her hind legs were swollen but not now. Her right side of the heart is very large. Severe tricuspid valve regurgitation and severe right atrial enlargement. Bo is les than 3 years old. SHes had her heart murmur from birth. She had ECO, no fluid around her heary or in her lungs.

What can I do natural to get rid of the fluid in her tummy?

It's pretty big!

What can I give her to help her live a longer life and not suffer?

She weights about 35 pounds. Need help as soon as possible. Thank you

Replied By Tamara (TX) on 12/27/2022
Dandelion Root☕😊

Replied By Rachel (Ca) on 08/26/2018

How long did it take before this started making your dog feel better?

Replied By trippipippi87 (ohio) on 05/03/2021

Thank you SO MUCH for this beautiful and helpful post.

Replied By Patrick (four oaks nc) on 06/16/2022

Can you take some time and send me maybe a list where I can get some ingredients to help me get my little sassy girl feeling at her best she has a 5-6 heart murmur and is holding on but could use a betters regimen than what I'm doing I'm just trying what I've read what others are writing on this web site . I would appreciate it so very much for some help with trying some of these remedies that are a more holistic approach. Thanks so much, Patrick

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