Holistic Therapy: Lupus (Systemic Lupus Erythematosus)

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Posted by Dessert (USA) on 12/17/2007

Dear Ted, Re: SLE - Lupus remedies feedback (baking soda, borax, ACV and coriander)

I thank God for you and for leading me to earthclinic when I started researching on lupus to understand what lupus was all about. Numerous renowned medical websites and my rheumatologist claim lupus causes are not known, there's no cure and advocate prescribed drugs are the only way to put lupus under control, some with lifetime consumption. I was deceived by such websites and my rheumatologist initially until I found your contributions in earthclinic. I've got a rheumatologist who is always quick to add dosages in the name of preventing flare-ups, by simply basing on unreliable numbers from laboratory tests which are not lupus-specific, scares me. You have imparted valuable truths and knowledge for healthy living. Thank you very much for being very patient, very kind and very committed in finding lupus cure and with me. I suppose this is not your job and you are doing this outside your working time, I truly appreciate you and all that you have done.

I'm in my mid-30s, I've got SLE with no organs implications. I'm weaning off prednisolone which I've taken for 2½ years, the side effects were getting more unbearable and worrisome and the frequency of pains and inflammation were on the increase without your lupus remedies, dropped plaquenil recently which caused blindness intermittently and I've tried traditional chinese medication for 5 weeks which gave me many other side effects, your lupus remedies gave me strong confidence to wean off prednisolone. I know long-term consumption of prednisolone will shut down my immune system and from a patient's point of view and experience, I concur with you that I should not suppress my immune system. Insofar I strongly believe there's no way I can wean off prednisolone without your lupus remedies. Your lupus remedies deal with the causes and hence the pain reduction or elimination and in my opinion, they do it speedily relative to the other treatments I've tried. I hardly change my diet to know and monitor what works for me and against me.

When I first read about your borax treatment on earthclinic, I had much faith in it even before I tried it. The very mention of lupus nanoinsects feeding on heavy metals caused me to link it with the nose infection I had about 8 years ago and I thought it made so much sense. I developed this nose infection shortly after I joined a MNC selling valves when I had to come into contact with them. I had 1 dent on each side of my nose, they looked like my flesh has been eaten up. Before this nose infection was cured 7 years ago, the scalps were never dried up and were growing bigger by and by. I had a biopsy done 7 years ago and I just found out recently I had discoid lupus then.

Over the last 6 months, I've tried your lupus remedies separately to see and feel my body's response to each of them:

1) 1/8 teaspoon of borax in 1 litre of water on empty stomach - I drank 250 ml 4 times a day and eating fresh coriander on empty stomach everyday to chelate mercury which feeds the lupus nanoinsects

When I first started borax treatment, I took it 4 days consecutively. I didn't see any lupus nanoinsects (tiny black dots) surfacing from my skin and I didn't have diarrhea, I used a see-through glass container to collect my stools hoping to see these tiny black dots. My stools are usually light brown to medium brown but during these 4 days, my stools were totally covered by so much of these tiny black dots (I broke down the stools with water to make sure they were not black stools to begin with) and I also experienced constipation and had piles. I understood from you that the dead lupus nanoinsects also cause inflammation hence the constipation and the piles did not make me stop the borax treatment. No more piles for subsequent borax treatments. I had loss of appetite and I experienced drowsiness whenever I take this borax treatment and I welcome drowsiness because I could sleep only 2-4 hours a day for the last decade. For a few months, I was very aggressive on borax treatment because I knew I had 'sticky blood', evident by the big blood clots from my periods. I made the mistake of not unclotting my blood first to allow the borax treatment penetrate into all my cells. The lupus nanoinsects were kinda wrapped up inside the blood clots. I used asprin as per your advice to unclot my blood and I have much lesser 'black blood' during menstruation now, which I've learnt from you that it is an indication of lowered levels of bacterial infection. I'm less dependent of borax treatment now that I don't see tiny black dots from my stools.

2) ½ teaspoon of baking soda in ½ mug of water on empty stomach once in the morning and once before bedtime in the evening to provide unfavourable terrain for mycoplasmas growth

Recently, I had a very speedy recovery from flare-up using this. I had a huge flare-up (intense pains and inflammation everywhere in my body) caused by eating vegetables not cleared of chemicals previously sprayed on them and sugar intake. The chemicals and sugar seem to fuel mycoplasmas growth very fast, gauging from the speed and intensity of pains and inflammation spreading all over my body. Bearing in mind I've been taking prednisolone and plaquenil faithfully since 2½ years ago, they didn't help one bit in any way whenever flare-ups occur. Then I took baking soda treatment and borax treatment on empty stomach, on an alternate basis with 1 hour interval 3-4 times each and only had one meal for the day before I took medicine, the pains and inflammation reduced by 80% at the end of the same day. The next day and the day after, I simply take the baking soda treatment as per normal without taking borax treatment, no more pains and inflammation by the 3rd day. I didn't see any tiny black dots from my stools during these 3 days, figured baking soda treatment did the job. The existence of lupus nanoinsects or mycoplasmas give rise to the same kind of pains and inflammation.

3) 1 teaspoon of baking soda + 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar + 8 teaspoons of freshly squeezed lemon juice + 250 ml of water on empty stomach

Prior to asprin intake, this ACV treatment has made my blood less sticky, the blood clots became smaller. Together with baking soda treatment, the white coating (candida) on my tongue is getting less concentrated, I see more redness on my tongue. From https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/acvinegar.html#why, I'm sure it also helps me in many areas which I'm not aware of.

I shout "YEA! YEA! YEA!" to the abovementioned lupus remedies.

God Bless You

Replied by Christmas
(Dallas, Tx, USA)

OMG! I am so happy to find this site and especially your comments. Thank God someone decided to be so descriptive about what is going on with stools, menstration, etc. At this point, Doctors are talking by the watercooler about me and even before I step into a new doctor's office, they are talking about me in the hall before they walk through the door. I can hear them, they should at least walk down the hall a little. I just visited an infectious disease doctor for the second time since I have lost 25 pounds since this has begun and he plainly states to me, "you seriously need to see a psychiatrist, there is nothing wrong with you except self inflicted wounds!". To make things worse, I got a secondary staph infection which infected my whole family including dogs and killed one of my gerbels. If that didn't confuse everything, I don't know what else!

Anyway, that is beside the point. I wanted to ask you how you picked out your Rheumatologist and what test results helped you get your diagnosis? I have been diagnosed with Fibromayalgia, Ankylosing Spondylitis, now asthma since i am having trouble exhaling, and anxiety issues and depression.

Good grief. I wouldn't be depressed if people would stop saying that I am harming myself (which I am not, these greasy, sticky, waxy lesions just won't heal) Anyway, my symptoms are the same including what you are calling the nanoinsects (need more info., I am new to all of this and this stuff is everywhere in the house) and it seems to respond to fungal treatment oral and topical. That is why I ended up at the infectious disease doctor 2x. However, when I stop the treatment, it reoccurs.

I am sitting here on Christmas Eve while my family is on vacation without me because I waited to be insulted by the infectious disease doctor, thanking God that I found this site.

Any information that anyone can give me regarding how I approach a new set of doctors along with my previous records. I am now hopeful! And by the way, somehow after reading all of this, I feel enlightened and happy. Imagine how a little bit of validation helps!


Replied by Madhumita
(West Bengal, Kolkata, India)

I have had Systemic Lupus Erythematosus since 2007 . Taking steroids and other medicine . Now I want to try your borax treatment. Which borax will I use borax detergent or homeopathy medicine borax?

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Posted by Florence (Olathe, CO) on 11/27/2007

I have been using the vinegar and baking soda for lupus, also seasalt and borax. Since I have been using it I have had a cold and cough. I have had it for over a month now and feel better from the symtoms I had from Lupus, but the cold and cough won't go away am wondering if it is part of the detox. Also what is the maintenance once you have taken the vinegar and baking soda and borax.

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Posted by akhtar (Karachi, Pakistan) on 11/19/2007

Want to contact Lupus patients in Pakistan especially if someone is following Ted's cures.

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Posted by Michael (Lakewood, NJ) on 06/30/2007

Borax treatment for Lupus: I am on day 5 of my 1/4 tsp borax & 1/2 tsp baking soda w/ acv treatment for my Lupus & it is Working!! I have severe skin problems, butterfly rash, redness on farhead, etc., it is really getting less noticeable each day.

Still have alittle brain fog & head pains, some joint pain but all lesser, I did camphor 10% alcohol rub (couldnt find powder), with eucilyptus, and it did help. Im wondering if after 2-3 wks all symptoms are gone if they come back again??

Replied by Sonali

Hello, I want to know if Ted's lupus remedies work well for men also? My husband has lupus and has had a congested chest for a few months now alternating from very clear to congested. Also can someone pl summarise Ted's lupus remedy?

Replied by Lanee

Hello I just wanted to know have anyone's symptoms stayed better with these remedies, my sister's who's very young suffers from this illness and I am going to get her to this because the medicines are lethal and toxic. How is everyone doing now???!!

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Posted by Rhonda (Charleston, SC, USA) on 03/31/2007

Before I forget to mention, Shara from Philadelphia..if you are still reading this post, I highly recommend you get tested for Pompe's Disease...otherwise, something you are taking is causing the rapid muscle breakdown and brown urine, which is called rhabdomyolysis, ..high fluoride in teas and other sources such as drugs can do the same thing.

Ted, you have some good information posted on this site and I will like to add to it...after developing an autoimmune disease myself, I researched extensively on the issue. In the end, I decided that the majority of all autoimmune appear to be linked to a retrovirus, gluten, mycobacteria, silica, or all of them together. Retroviruses can be kept in check with vitamin E and selenium, and killed with fresh coconut meat. The gluten issue is related to strep and staph. Strep bacteria are used in mice to induce autoimmune disease. You can do what is called a BlAST search on pubmed...for a protein/protein interaction, and you will find that the gluten protein resembles the protein coat of strep and staph bacteria...that can trigger disease....be aware that most yogurt has a harmless strep added..but this is not good for autoimmune sufferers...that is why dairy is an issue...along with the fact that strep and staph bacteria are present in milk and yogurt. These bacteria loves low body temperature...so in a hypothyroid situation, (such as that caused by fluoride or triclosan in your antibacterial soap) they run rampant. Be aware that the reason most autoimmune sufferes have B-vitamin deficiencies is when strep/staph are involved, that is because that is WHAT THEY EAT, in combination with chromium(strep and staph need B vitamins and chromium to survive)...So if you cook on stainless steel and take high doses of B-vitmains..you are feeding strep like crazy..try eating a banana and see if your symptoms worsen..haha .Next comes the silica...this is the one that you probably have never heard of...fluoride is added to water in the form of a fluorosilicate..the fluoride reduces white blood cells, but at the same time, the silicate reduces the ability of a person with autoimmune to fight off mycobacteria. Mycobacteria thrive on silica..and some foods are high in silicon...that is how they form the scar tissue...haven't you heard of the breast plant issue with silicon and autoimmune? Anything ground up (such as seasonings), many medicines in capsules, etc..and even table salt, which also has silica added to it to make things "pour" will be a problem with autoimmune sufferers..and you will form scar tissue. The mycobacteria uses the silica in this way in a destructive manner, especially in the presence of fluoride...to make scar tissue. Studies show that TB patients cannot fight off tuberculosis (which is also caused by a mycobacterial infection) if silica is being consumed. You can research this if you want to. I have read that mycobacteria are vulnerable to citrate, tetracycline, monocycline (which, unlike tetracycline, penetrates tissues),and copper. So what does all of this add up to??? I wanted to see if I can make my symptoms completely disappear WITHOUT ANY SUPPLEMENTS...yes you heard me right. It happened...but the problem is, it is a very restrictive (but simple) diet: Elimate all sources that feed mycobacteria, retroviruses, and strep/staph. This boils down no fluoride, silica, and gluten, and foods with B-vitamins added. No fluoride is hard...spring water low in fluoride, do not cook on non-stick cookware in any form, and avoiding high fluoride foods such as chicken, soy, and canned meats. Reduce silica means avoiding seasonings that pour or that you sprinkle on food, and high silicon foods...(i.e.use fresh herbs only for seasoning). Low/No HCL in the stomach is generally caused by fluoride toxicity...you end up with HF instead of HCL inthe stomach, which sets up hypothyroidism, and that will now allow strep/staph, and retroviruses to thrive...also the problem with red meat is this..the stomach is lined with a sodium layer..when you ingest red meat, it pulls the sodium from the lining stomach, and creates a inflammatory condition...because of lack of sodium...mycobacteria thrives on sodium, making the problem worse...but you need sodium to digest your food. And finally, the gluten issue: by avoiding gluten, your body does not launch an autoimmune response to type IV collagen...gluten once again, looks like the protein coat that covers strep and staph..but also that makes up type IV collagen, which is present throughout your body, including your kidneys...and this collagen gets attacked. This is a very general and short version of what i could say, but I hope many find this information useful. Feel free to email for more info. and clarification.

Replied by Ted
(Bangkok, Thailand)
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Without getting confused in lupus remedies, I am going to make it simple and concentrate on major supplements that resulted in major improvements.

I have seen lupus to improve most significantly from only four things being the most important. These are the bare minimum:

1. Alkalizing pH. 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken twice a day in 1/2 glass of water on an empty stomach. Urinary pH MUST be at LEAST 7.0

2. Vitamin D3 2,000 i.u.- 20,000 i.u./day. Magnesium is synergistic with the vitamin D at about 250 mg of mangesium citrate. Vitamin D I found accidentally after I noticed lupus tend to worsen during winter with less sun, and when early summer arrive, the lupus was reduced. Excess sun exposure is still not recommended for lupus, but vitamin d seems to increase the immune systems.

3. 1/8 teaspoon of borax taken weekly diluted in 1 liter of water taken in divided dose throughout the day.

4. No acid forming supplements! Vitamin B6 (pyridoxal hydrochloride) and Nicotinic acid, were the biggest problems in creating a lupus, not because they are vitamin B, but because they are acid forming. One is a hydrochloride, the other is the nicotinic acid. If they are other that are alkaline forming, they are relatively toxic to both staph and strep.

5. Contaminated water supply. Yes fluoride, chlorine, but I also found free heavy metals contaminants to be the big cause also. Certain water had unknown chemicals and switching them to mineral water did major improvement were seen in the condition of lupus.

6. No sweets, too much meats, pizza, steaks, oily foods, white flour, and fried foods. They make the condition so much worse as they too are acid forming.

Those are the big six that resulted in major improvements. You can do the other things later. I have as yet to fine tune this, but lupus is still rare where I live. If I get any more information on lupus, I will update them as it comes along.

Replied by Jen

Ok ted and ec readers.

i am a person who has hyperthyroid. i have written a few posts on here about this and i was reading again teds lupus remedies and something struck me and i dont know why it hasnt before because i have read this post a hundred times. Rhonda from Charleston SC wrote about autoimmunity being connected to strep and staph bacteria. Thats when it hit me that 2 and a half years ago i was diagnosed with Group B strep while i was pregnant. (and i must say that it is not a very pleasant test) Any ways i was told that it was no big deal and that they would give me antibiotics when i was in labor so the baby wouldnt get it. And i never thought anymore about it... until now and i cant find much info about it on the www. other than its part of the strep bacteria family. So my question to ted and others is, What is this Group B strep? Could this be a reason as to why i have a Hyperthyroid? and How in the world do i get rid of it? I dont want it and i dont want to be a carrier of this disease. Or any other for that matter. if anyone knows about group B strep i would love any info. Please, even if it dosent pertain to anything i have asked.

also they say Group B strep is not very common, well of the 4 others who were pregnant at the same time 3 off us had it and were told the same thing.

Thanks so much in adavance
Peace love and life


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Posted by Janet (Croydon, England) on 03/13/2007

I am glad to read that we are waking up. I was diagnosed with lupus along with several other ailments, which only devoloped during taking medication for an operation and having to wait on the waiting list for 8 months. I am in the process of trying to figure out my diet and allergies too. I am nearly back to normal. but i really believe the damage has been done already. So its no more medication for me. We are all guinea pigs. I believe a number of the drugs that I had been taken have since been taken of the market. We all need to think twice before taking medication.

Replied by Ted
(Bangkok, Thailand)
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Pharma drugs basically don't treat the cause, it has always been to treat for the symptoms. It has and always will be the most profitable venue for a pharma drugs, to get people to buy drugs like they were an addictive drugs until you go to the grave. What can be more profitable than that? It is even legal to say the least, which is hugely more profitable than selling heroine since you can sell them legally.

If you read many of my postings, it is the cause that I am trying to treat. Strange alien sounding medicine sounds more like toxic chemicals to me and I think finding the cause of the lupus and treat ourself for the cause is really the best ways toward a more healthy body.

The lupus issue I think that helps is to get regular bowel movements, alkalizing the body, vitamin D supplements, being the top of my lists in dealing with lupus but at least without the crutches and the extreme expenses of Pharma drugs.

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Posted by Mayla (Adelanto, CA) on 04/11/2006

Ted's remedies cured my swelling of the joints and all the pain that I had due to the fact that I have Lupus and I am no longer taking any of my medications for it, I'm just on 17 different vitamins daily and I have changed my diet no read meat just lots of greens and fish,chicken not fried.

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Posted by Shara (PHILADELPHIA, PA) on 01/10/2006

Thank you so much!! I have been ill for my entire life but I was hospitalized when I was 13 yrs old. The Dr's had nothing useful to me other than a sugar and Saline drip and a lot of bed rest. They said that what I had looked like lupus but they could not peg it. Finally a few years ago I learned that Lupus ran in my family thus I believe that I may have a bastardized version of Lupus. My mother put me on a vitamin theorapy treatment of vitamins e,c,Lecithin, Bcomplex, multi, omega 3, Calcium, and many other things here and there. Just recently I have added Lipoic acid. I can honestly say that my lupus has not progressed as the Dr's were afraid of with out their treatment. They said that I would be in a wheelchair by the time I was 19 yrs old and now I am 29 and just having less episodes than when I was 13. I do still have episodes that consist of Extreme muscle break down, memory loss, Brown urine and extreme muscle cramping. Skin rashes are also a symptom along with facial sores that my have bonded with a herpes simplex virus. This mixture of herpes and lupus rash is a constant battle but I contain it by taking L-Lysine, Larrea Root, and Red Marine Algea. But still I am very vulnerable to virus attacks b/c of my immune system and when I contract a virus it sends me into an episode that can take me down for a week to a month depending on the virus. Anyway just wanted let you know that your information is very useful to me and I plan to use it daily

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Posted by Aristo (New York, NY) on 10/05/2005

Before I say anything about this Holistic treatment on Lupus I would like to thank Ted from Bangkok, Thiland for posting this Lupus treatment on the internet.

I am 20 years old and I have been diagnosed with Lupus when I was 18. I have been taking pills for 2 1/2 years now and I was devastated. I've been to four different Rheumotologists - The best ones here in New York city and all of them told me the same thing. They told me that I'm going to have Lupus for the rest of my life and that I am going to have to take medications for the rest of my life so my Lupus conditions won't get worse. That's a lie!!! This is a true story of my life experiences I want everyone with Lupus to read about. Wether your conditions are mild, moderate, or severe. The things that Ted from Thailand said has saved me from this disease. I really thank you Ted.

My father had severe Lupus ever since I was 7 years old. My father took all his medications and went to the doctor for blood tests once a month and his Lupus became worse. First it affected his legs and he couln't walk well and when he walked fast he ended up falling on the ground. When I was 11 years old my father was hospitalized because at home his head was extreamely red and he had blood in his brain at the time. He stayed in the hospital for two months. He became a little bit better and he was released from the hospital. He was still very sick and he was getting worse as months went by. But when I was 18 years old my father ended up in the hospital for good. My father was 54 years old back then. For two years my father went from hospital to nursing home constantly and for two years I did not see my father home as I used to before that. I prayed everyday and I told god I want my father and everyone else who is sick to get better one day and live a healthy and normal life at home with their family.

That did not happen for me. My father took all his medications, two pnemonia vaccines, several surgeries, he was also on morphienes and in two years after he was transferred from hospital to nursing home he passed away at the age of 56 on December 11, 2004.

I have been diagnosed with Lupus when my father was in the hospital. I was given Plaquenil 200mg. I took it 2 times a day with Bayer asprin 81mg one a day. I took the plaquenil and the asprin for a year and a half. I developed arthritis on my shoulder, fingers, arms and legs. Two doctors gave me plaquenil at the time. My arthritis was getting worse and worse. My doctor told me it was because of the lupus so I decided to go to another doctor he gave me prednisone and it made me sleep all the time I told my doctor and he told me keep taking it as your body adjusts to the medication. I went to the fourth doctor, he told me to take Methylprednisolone 4mg, Chloroquine phosphate 250mg, and the Bayer asprin once a day. In 6 months I felt very week, my memory was not good, and everyone who saw me knew I was sick because my face had changed and I looked sick. I was tired of all this. For two years I was looking for the cure of Lupus and I came across what Ted wrote here so I told myself I will give it a try. I am taking a little more than what Ted mentioned above. I am taking Calcium/Magnesium 500mg/250mg, Vitamin E 400IU, Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 1000mg, vitamin B complex 50mg, Niacin (in the form of nicotinic acid) 100mg, Zinc 30mg, L-carnitine 500mg, Alpha Lipoic acid 60mg, and N-Acetyl-L-cysteine 600mg. I take all of these once a day along with Echinacea 3ml daily, RNA/DNA supplement 100mg/10mg daily. I know that Ted mentioned Cellfood but it's very expensive and I cannot afford it, and I also take Kyolic aged garlic 600mg 3 times a day for my arthritis. The only vitamin I am not taking is vitamin A. I have taken these vitamins and suplements for a month now and was shocked to see my blood test results. I compared my blood test results from last month (I was taking the medications) and This month (when I am taking my vitamins and supplements) I saw a big improvement on the results. The first blood test was terrible that was when I was taking my medicine. And my blood test results now are perfect with everything being at the normal range and it's as if I do not have Lupus at all. With these supplements and vitamins I feel strong, energetic, and my memory is perfect because I remember things clearly now and as a college student my grades are up too, I am very Happy now that I got my Lupus cured but I will still be taking my vitamins and supplements.

Thank you Ted from Bangkok Thiland for putting this on the internet.

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Posted by rhonda (tallahassee, fl, usa) on 07/31/2007


Concerning taking Vitamin D, one must be careful when taking it. It is important that it is balanced with Vitamin F. Some doctors will diagnose people with lupus when they actually have sarcoidosis, and diagnose them with sarcoidosis when they actually have lupus. The 2 are not the same, although they are both thought to have a type of mycobaterium involved, but not the same mycobacterium. Vitamin D would be very helpful for lupus but detrimental for sarc. The difference appears to be due to whether or not the mycobacteria has infected your macrophages. If this is the case, your active vitamin D levels will actually be high, even in the presence of low stored vitamin D. A good rule of thumb may be to have both the stored and active levels measured. If taken vitamin D causes you dizziness, this can also be a clue that you active levels may already be high. In this case, it needs to be balanced with Vitamin F.

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Posted by Shirley (San Diego, CA & Puerto Vallarata, Mex) on 12/10/2014

I was diagnosed with skin Lupus Feb. 26 2014 by an excellent dermatologist in Puerto Vallarta. This was confirmed in a second opinion in San Diego. Both doctors recommended several skin creams, one "pro topic" was so strong and a steroid I was very very sick, dry mouth, dry heaves in the morning, and loss of appetite. After trying several other creams I found the best thing was zinc oxide! Besides being better, it is so cheap and no prescription needed. My husband suggested this as it is used for diaper rash, and anti-sun protection. Lately my friend gave me a bottle of prepared liquid MSM in a spray bottle, I have used it for about 5 days in the evening, and it seems to have helped. I also noticed, anything stressful in my life leads to more severe rash. I try to take a nap or at least get horizontal for at least 30 min. a day and read. I realize everybody's "body" reacts differently to different things, but another Mexican product Quadraderm, or its generic works much better than any of the US creams I've used. Good luck everybody!

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