Joint Pain: Top Natural Remedies

I have been taking Borax 5 days on 2 days off from 10/1/2020 till now for 13 months for joint pain. My condition has been improved, but no cure and still have a lot of pain. Should I continue with borax, or stop? I like to ask your opinion and advise, specially Art Sobrig.

Thanks,

Mike

Hi Art.

I am taking 1/4 tea spoon in the liter of water 5 days a week and Saturday and Sunday off. You mentioned take 4 days borax and 3 days off. I will follow that direction.

Is there anything else that helps joint pain?

Thanks,

Mike

Hi Art Solbrig,

I have joint pain and in the last 4 weeks, used Ted's borax remedy, 1/4 teaspoon on the liter of water for 5 days. Not that much improvement.

Any suggestions? Thank you.

Art,

Thank you so much for great information.

What is your thought about Phenobarbital, instead of Dilantin?

Thanks,

Mike V

Hello Team Earthclinic,

I have had pain in my left big toe for many years now. I have looked at the most common causes and honestly can not figure out what it might be. It hurts in the top knuckle of the toe and then down to the tip. Think about if you balled up your hand to make a fist the knuckle down to the tip.

It always felt like it needed to pop but no matter how hard it was pulled on it just would not pop. I have been taking a good bit of Borax in my morning coffee and a few weeks ago I was able to get that knuckle to pop. It hurt so bad and actually left a small bruise above the knuckle. Some days it hurts really bad and some days I hardly notice it.

It has begin recently to pop on its on and does not hurt as bad as it did the first time it popped. It mostly pops once after I wake and I stretch.

Just wondering if maybe the Borax is finally loose in up what ever is wrong with it. I have an x-ray scheduled but am avoiding hospitals at this time. I also take Black Strap Molasses on that cup of coffee and some coconut oil.

If it's gout or arthritis it sure has taken the Borax a long time to work. I am thinking it is an old injury such as turf toe or broken toe or the Hallux Rigidus. It does stay swollen in that knuckle and the bone falls slightly protruded up.

But the popping that it is doing now seems like it might work it's way back to normal.

My husband I realized that our bed might be contributing to pain.

He was waking up with shoulder pain and I with hip pain. I spent time researching beds and got a good bed from Costco - foam, gel something yada yada yada. Husband LOVED the bed. No more shoulder pain. For me, no more hip pain...but instead I was waking up with a new pain between my shoulder blades that required me to ice my neck/back every morning. The bed felt like concrete to me.

We were planning to return it and try something else. My chiropractor suggested a different pillow - a Bed Boss pillow for side sleepers. It is a memory foam pillow with a notch for your shoulder. She said to give it some time. It took two nights for me to become completely sold. I also got a 3 inch egg crate foam bed topper.

The pillow and bed topper have been game changers. I am sleeping better and waking up without pain. Husband does not have pain (At first the foam topper made him feel claustrophobic but he is liking it now.) If you have back pain, consider the possibility of your bed and pillow! ~ Mama to Many~

Hi there fellow sufferers!

It has been many moons since I last posted but please don't take it personally !!

There has been precious little to report actually, so I have preferred not to waffle and dissimulate out of respect for your intelligence! I like to report progress (if any) on my Arthritis / Joint problems / Muscle stiffness etc occasionally and it is time to up-date fellow (and fellowesses) sufferers on my evolving regime. I may bequeath my body to science eventually.

So... Upon rising, take a teaspoon of olive oil OR coconut oil (alternate the two) = Oil Pulling and Swilling trick. Use good, quality stuff please. After 20 minutes expel and rinse with warm water- then drink two glasses of warm water. Surely you can think of useful ways to occupy the time whilst keeping a straight face !?

Certain essential bodily functions spring to a fertile mind. Later on we indulge ourselves with a "nice cup of tea" - a traditional brew in this house from time immemorial, without which we are incapable of coherently functioning.

Breakfast then:- One tablet containing the following: Quercetin 125mg, Devil's Claw 1125mg, Celery seed 1500, Chelated Zinc 5mg, Grape Seed extract 6000mg One tab Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid variety in my case) 1000mg + Rose Hips powder 25mg with glass of water Mid morning cup of coffee 4 pm cup of tea Dinner with tablespoon ACV in a glass of water using a straw Rinse well afterwards but do not brush teeth, Bed time sees me take a teaspoon of Cod Liver Oil In addition,

It might be wise to ensure you get to bed early and get a good night's sleep, increase water consumption, de-stress somehow, walk regularly at least five times per week, take some Magnesium Chloride liquid and also some Bone Broth OR Collagen a couple of times a week.

A lot to remember I guess but if you are desperate enough.... I have been regular with the above and the aches and pains and stiffness problems have become a bit less over a few months. Also scalp problems such as psoriasis and dandruff have definitely improved. Hopefully the Sun will still come up in the morning. I am very happy with progress so far and will keep you posted.

Cheers from Down Under, Michael

Hello everybody. Will someone let me know if we should stop other medicines which we use to treat arthritis if I am using borax as a treatment?

Hello, please help! Many years ago I found Earth Clinic and immediately began taking the acv/bs mixture in water daily and it was incredible the relief I had in my joints & acid reflux but for the past year it is no longer helping even tho I am still continuously taking the same mixture daily. I am in severe joint pain as well as acid reflux which is bringing on depression especially after it working sooo well for years. I have also lost a lot of weight so I don't think the pain is weight related. Should I increase the amount I'm taking? Please please please respond, I am really struggling with this and makes it very difficult to do my job! Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,
Melea

Thanks Timh for the suggestions!

Melody

What kind of chlorophyll? Where do you get it in N.C?

I ordered Natures Sunshine liquid chlorophyll from Amazon. I have used Now as well but Natures Sunshine tastes better I think. Melody

I tried the ornithine for my insomnia and took 3 of the now capsules--nothing. Until the next day, when the diarrhea started. My ibs-d is so awful, now I've had the runs since Saturday. Watch out how much of this stuff you take--it may react badly.

Any updates on this? I've recently started supplementing with borax solution and for the first 4 days didn't sleep at all. Then I stopped for a day or two. Went back to it again and was back to no sleep :(

Hi there, I'm looking into natural remedies for Sacroillitis. Does anyone know of any? So far, I've tried a massage, the chiropractor, yoga, youtube videos for stretches. It doesn't seem to be helping. I am going to try acupuncture and foot reflexology afterwards. I imagine physio is just stretching exercises, I will still try it just in case. After all this, I still feel intense throbbing up my spine, around my tailbone, my buttocks and shoots down my leg. This is making it really hard to walk. Any advice of herbal medicine or what you may have done yourself would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Melody Z

P.S. I should mention that I have been diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis. I am currently on Prednisone and asacol. I hear that gluten free diet helps with Sacroillitis relief as well.. thoughts?

You may be able to find a chiropractor or physical therapist who offers cold laser treatment in your area.

Boswellia carterii will help both of your problems. I am an herbalist.

Erin,

There is herbal powder, raw herb, resin and essential oil available under the name Boswellia Carterii.

Which one are you recommending and how do you propose to use it? What dosing and frequency do you find to work for sacroiliitis?

Art

I've found that 3g of omega-3s daily gets my chronic knee pain under control.

Lee: thanks for sharing your experience and do please inform us on your progress! Question, did you per chance try 7-keto DHEA in your previous nutritional protocol??? I have read that the 7-keto form of DHEA is preferred over the regular DHEA. Anyway it seems as if auto-immunity is more prevalent and disease causing than what we otherwise know.

LDN or (Low Dose Naltrexone) is gaining much acceptance in the prescription pharmaceutical category. The "low dose" factor makes it quite safe and free of bad side effects BUT packs a good punch for regulating immunity.

I am currently researching other options like Opiates and Cannabinoids.

timh, I haven't tried the 7-keto DHEA.

do you recommend this supplement for autoimmune disease? I have just started the chinese medicine treatment but will post any progress that I make.

Lee: There is a good bit of literature in favor of DHEA and particularly 7-keto DHEA for many types immune disorders. At one time I personally experienced noticeable benefits from both. In the nutritional category there are, to my knowledge, only two more nutrients with specific benefits for autoimmunity and they are Colostrum and DMG.

For the past six months, I have abstained from eating red meat and dairy products. About two months ago, I began to experience joint pain in both shoulders. Could this be the result of these dietary eliminations? Any suggestions. The pain and stiffness in the joints is getting worse.

Hello, I am wondering with your dietary changes if your vitamins are off, which of course can cause shoulder pain etc.. Have you had any levels checked such as D? I have terrible joint pains etc. and found I had low d, low b's and even low c? It may be throwing your vitamin level off. Just a suggestion..

My 80 year old neighbor told me he used pectin to cure his arthritic knuckles. But I tried putting it ON the joint and it didn't work. Now I will consume it and see if it works, as this reader suggests. Will add pectin capsules too.

Turmeric is an age old remedy for a number of conditions, especially for joints, ligaments and skin. One tablesp. divided twice a day with a teasp. of simple whey powder and half a cup of water in the blender will be a balanced dosage for long term usage. It is beneficial for lung and heart, a blood thinner and natural antibiotic.

We would love your juice drink recipe. We have a juicer, and have been lax in making our juices.

Hello, just wondering if you have the juice recipe. Would love to try it. Thanks.

Yea for the distribution of noni. According to the Discovery channel it is the greatest nutritional discovery of our time. Tahitian Noni International has done human clincal trials which is very impressive. Also, it is the only beverage listed in the PDR for over the counter meds with no adverse side effects. I drink 2 oz daily of the Noni Extra which addressed my joint stiffness over a 60 day product experience. I no longer have to shake my legs after being seated for a period in order to stand and walk. The Noni FIT Body Composition system has addressed my slowed down metabolism and restored balance allowing me to burn fat and lose inches(@ 1-2 on each side of my waist over a 60 day period dropping 20 lbs. I became a product of the product and now I am an independent health bioactivist.

Does anyone have experience with this problem and could maybe give advice on supplements?

Have you tried the cusack protocol?

I have written in before about my problem with swollen knuckles. I have tried AC vineager and other things witch seemed to help somewhat but did not last. This problem has been going on for almost two years. I finally went to arthritis doctor who took $1,300 of tests and xrays of my hands and he still does not know what is the problem. He wanted to put me on some pretty strong drugs that have bad side effects and I decided not to take them. My knuckles never get unswollen, sometimes they don't bother me that much and other times like now they are really stiff and burning. I am wondering if this could be something to do with gout. If anyone has heard of this problem any help would be appreciated. Pam

Just wondering...are there any issues with yellowing of the teeth if using tumeric powder?

Wild oil of oregano (ooo) which I diluted by placing 10 drops in about 2 tbsp of grape seed oil immediately stopped my bone/joint pain in legs. Like a miracle! I just rubbed it on the leg.

So now, when my husband's knee hurt I used too-but he did not feel relief... Must be different kind. Anyway I thought that maybe there is something out there that is NOT diluted essential ooo but ooo by itself (like e.g. grape seed oil). Is there?

Just a note to make sure you use Chlorella and not any of the other "blue green" algae.

"For the record, I don't approve of the use of two other types of algae, blue green algae (aphanizomenon) and spirulina. Both are in a different group from chlorella. Some species of blue green algae produce toxins, including neurotoxins that can increase long-term risks of degenerative diseases of the central nervous system. I see no reason to include any blue-green algae in the diet.

If you must have your algae, chlorella is a much better choice.

WARNING on the AMBIEN!

I got addicted to Ambien and after doing a lot of research I discovered that IT was responsible for my aching joints and muscles!! It can cause fibromyalgia and flu-like symptoms.

Within 2 weeks of dropping Ambien my aches and pains went away.