Natural Cures for Atrial Fibrillation

HI U OLD PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,, after my CT Scan both my ankles turned red and itched. On research I found that folks with blood cancer have this reaction. I was concerned and I called my Dr's office and was told to stop going on the internet. I think something is wrong because I have had blood cancer in the past and treated it my self. Oh well, I'm ahead of the stats so I should just be thankful. Tn is now spraying the roadside instead of mowing. The sprayed us last month and now my roadside muscadine vines are dying. Wrote our road guy and told him that I will cause him grief.......... and I will. Worked for 25 years to get this orchard and am going to raise holy hell. This is crazy stuff. We are killing ourselves. I do all this garden stuff to avoid Round up and the gov. ruins my garden with what I'm trying to avoid. This is about money. I promise you that our national gov is involved. Some lobbyist hooked a rider on an essential bill that will require the states to use round up instead of mowing. I plan to raise holy hell. ====ORH====

You should check out John Bergman on YouTube. I would not do ablation.

Best of luck, ORH! We're rootin' fer ya!

Greetings ORH, I am one of those people greatly inspired by your health walk and awesome experience with life. I know a man who had heart a procedure at 77 years of age and at ninety he still travels around and out of America My uncle does works with concrete. He is up in His eighties and doing this construction work. For about the last ten years, he has been going in to the hospital about once a year to get his heart beat reset. He goes in the morning and when he comes home he goes to work in his garden or wherever. The point there is he doesn't have to go to seat still after procedure. Anyway he always goes out when he comes home. "Knowing when to give in" has added decades to many lives. HisJewel

Parasites also can cause atrial fib.

I suggest check in with a good osteopath (the Canadian kind osteopathic manual practitioner, not the US kind, essentially a doctor) or chiropractor. There will be stuff going on in the spine that influences or interferes with the electrical signalling. See: BMJ (I think about 1984) - a somatic component to myocardial infarction and New Scientist: high blood pressure is a pain in the neck. Of course, just because there is a connection doesn't mean every chiro and every osteo can sort it safely. These are special skills. So be sure to get a recommendation first. Also look up Dr Carolyn Dean - remineralise your heart

YEP IT'S ME AGAIN,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you follow this thread you wii find that for a few years , I have all the answers and then for a few years , I don't know sheet. That's the way us humans are. We 'bout half smart. Right now I feel very dumb. ====ORH====

Greetings ORH, "Ole Robert Henry, You are smarter than you think, it just that there's always more to learn, after we learn. My worst dealings with AFIB almost always happen soon After I EAT a high carb meal. Especially eat out, fries, smoothies coffee, donuts etc. The Magnesium, and potassium helps to slow down and regulate my heart beat. And I found out that if I take fulvic acid just a drop or three in water helps me tremendously to avoid AFIB, but I had to start with a half drop for at least a week. the brand I ordered is strong. HisJewel

ORH, I just want to add to my previous post that I use a liquid Fulvic Acid. The bottle says, "Fulvic Acid Minerals. HisJewel

Hi There again ORH and EC, I found Bill Thompson's post on Fulvic Acid and noticed he used Iodine when taking Fulvic Acid to even things out. That may be key to successful use. Here is his post. Bill from San Fernando, Philippines March 14, 2013 at 8:15 am Hi Lauren… I use humic/fulvic acid on a weekly basis. I also just buy it from the garden center as granules or powder because its way cheaper than buying the organic or edible “standardized” forms. To make the drink I just add a small amount of Humic Acid to water so that the water has a light brown see-through appearance(not black). I also always add a small amount of sodium bicarbonate to make the water alkaline. Then I just add a few drops of lugols iodine or a few drops of 10% sodium thiosulphate to remove any heavy metals and bad halogens and then just drink it like that. Humic acid is just 75 million year old plant humus that has been broken down by enzymes and has also had high thermodynamic pressure applied to it because it is found compacted in rock strata. Humic Acid makes body metabolism much more efficient, it is a wonderful detoxer of poisons and also has strong anti-viral action.

Hello ORH. I just had two AFibs while in hospital for vertigo. Thankfully I was there, but, I do like looking for natural helps while I'm out. I'm on Metoprolol for now, but, I take basic vitamins everyday A, B12, C1000, D3 and Omega 3s, and I also take Magnesium Citrate (listed above) as well. Having a whole-food only diet may help too. Wish you the best.

One more thing, as you age, stop taking magnesium pills. THEY DON'T WORK because they are not absorbed well enough. I make my own spray, use Magnesium Chelate (amazon), put in spray bottle with hot water….spray on chest, skin, neck, etc. NOW you will feel the relief you cannot get with pills…same with potassium….TAKE LIQUID NOT PILLS< THEY DON'T WORK. PACS…GONE, GONE, GONE…do it, try it, you will thank your lucky stars for this website….THANK YOU EARTH CLINIC

Bob,

Do you take the salt tablet every day?

Hi Ron, Thank you much for sharing your finding. Did you take the bentonite on empty stomack in the morning, or on divided portions? Best

Diatomaceous Earth is the same as the clay. Does bentonite clay cure AF or does it cleanse your small intestine to better absorb the nutrients vital to your heart/rhythm health? I suspect the latter. I did notice some improvement while taking this, shrunk hemorrhoids in 30 days, and tho it did not keep me out of AF, the supplements seemed to work faster to get me back to NSR. 6 months is a long time to work. If that's all you took and did not stop triggers, that is truly amazing and absolutely worth a shot. Beats the regimen of deadly drugs they put us on.

Do you mean to say the Diatomaceous Earth is the same thing or has the same action as Sodium Bentonite Clay? Oh, think again. Not at all the same.

No, I didnt mean to say they are the same item, just that they may have the same effect on our body, removing toxins. I believe Bentonite Clay is from the earth and Diatomaceous Earth is from algae in the sea beds. The 3 types of BC are not recommended for internal use, however the calcium type is suggested as it is more easily digested and moves through the colon where sodium and potash may clog the colon. With either one I would suggest drinking a lot of water. Some have suggested a blend of DE and BC 6 to 1 with great success. Bottom line, whatever removes toxins and gives us better absorption of minerals.

It's not just in the gut and it's not just clay or dirt that can cure this. It may have worked for you, but I'm sure you did a few other things along with the dirt.

I do believe you.... as is very hard to follow a good diet that's why most people fail to achieve results. I going to give it a try and give you feedback. Regards

Thank you for your input. For objectivity purpose one should state what he has done for his condition and if it helped. Theories and assumptions (will help in 80% cases) don't add value to one's post and are strictly personal perception. Well formed stool indicates slow bowel function. Stools have to be soft to indicate healthy elimination.

Thank you, I will try the Bentonite! Have suspected it was a colon problem, rather than a heart problem all along!

Thank you for your post. Very encouraging. I believe the afib is also caused by digestive issues (or surrounds the digestive issues), so I am going to take your suggestion and work on it, and I'll keep you posted.

Update:

In my search for a cure I realized I was using crutches in the form of many supplements. I have also found the root to all conditions such as afib, or all chronic conditions such as asthma, cancer diabetes etc is either toxicity and or deficiency. I have also discovered that the best way to eliminate the toxic conditions in the body is with bentonite clay, food grade sodium bentonite. Small amounts do not cure, large does. The stools should be massive, and daily, not small and occasional.

My AFIB is getting less and less to the point that I seldom have an attack and if I do a large bowel movement usually corrects it. Benonite not only pulls toxins from the colon but also pulls toxins from the organs and blood but and it takes at least 5 tablespoons taken daily to work or in pill form up to 80 pills.

Bentonite combined with probiotics will work for 80% of all afibs.The others are heart conditions mine was a colon condition which most of us have. This needs to be done for a year maybe two depending on the individual. I had all day every day 24 hour afib. I would wake up at night or in the morning with run away heart beating loud and fast. I could feel my heart beat in my ears. It was all irritation of the vegus nerve that also controls the heart, the source of which was inflammation coming from toxic conditions in the colon. Other symptoms were heavy mucous after eating, heavy mucous in the morning upon waking and showering. Heavy mucous coming from my nose when having a bowel movement, tinnitus, constipation or diareaha, in a cycle. The constipation would get better until it losened to diareaha , then back to the constipation. Back and forth and back and forth. Now its all healing up nicely with the bentonite.

I also use psyllium and or oxy colon cleanse because the bentonite can bind you up a bit when you take a lot but those massive stools sure move out the toxic waste. If you are not having well formed stools at least once a day you are accumulating toxic matter that could be affecting the vegal nerve that affects the heart. This was the holy grail for me.

HI U RON, , , , , , , , good post. The natural folks have a debate as to which is more important ...... the colon or the liver. I say both and treat them equally. As I am on the shady side of the mountain, I am paying more attention to Hulda Clark....... it's a parasite thing. Those buggers will get you in a natural born minute and our MD's have no clue.

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Hi there, could you let us know how you take the bentonite clay? Mix with water or some other way? You said spoonfuls. Thanks

I have read, that sodium clay leaches calcium out and that is why calcium bentonite clay is preferable (something like cardio calcium EDTA is more advisable for cardio heavy metal chelation that sodium EDTA). Some thoughts on this?

Pat! That's awesome! How long have you been in NSR? Gosh its good to hear you didn't give up and go for the heart scarring. I have that in my regimen, but not daily, usually when I feel "off", combined with increased Mag and C.

Congrats.

Hi everyone,

I take taurine and arginine and magnesium and someone out of the blue said to me ; well how long and how much of these things can you take without affecting liver and kidneys. I have no idea.. So my question is how long can we take supplements without any problems? I know water soluable seem to be okay .. Thank you

Thanks! I really think that I wasn't getting enough Mg and especially the Taurine that helped! Off all meds even if I get afib, I convert with a little metapropol and no more fleccanide! I havent had it for about a month now and each time I have had it since January it gets less and less! So I know I'm getting better! The "Heart Calm" has Taurine and Mg in it along with Potassium and coq10.And I take 1000 more Taurine in addition to that a day! So... hoping that I hit on something here! I take Hawthorn and VitC, D, Fish oil, aged garlic and a multi also which I pretty much always took!

Hope you guys are doing well! I am on the run from those doctors and their ablation! Oh and I also use the Magnesium spray oil on my skin 2x a day! I must have needed a lot of Mg! Very depleted it seems! And Taurine is a potent detoxifier as is Mg! All these supplements are costing me more than the meds, but I'd rather do it this way with NO side effects! The only side effect is how good I feel!

Hi Pat and Hawk;

Thanks for thinking of me.. I am doing well I think.. I am avoiding doctors too like the plague and plugging along trying different things. I am also still taking the 1000 mgs. of taurine and I am still doing the magnesium not as much now though..haven't had on palpitation in ages and I am exercising and eating more raw foods as I hear they will detox anything. I am also taking some kidney herbs too.. anyway; yes I do all kinds of beats from utube. I do think they work.. I do the rife tones and solfeggio and all of that.. love it..

Okay glad to hear you are doing so well. I am so happy and proud of you.. after all of your hard work it paid off.. Kudos to you!!

Just passed the 2 year mark of my AF summer of quitting Flec and Metop. Still in NSR without meds/allopaths and minimal supplements. Walking/Running 5-6 times a week has been a good medicine against this beast. Hows everyone else these days?

I know this is a late blog, but I am off all meds since June including beta blocker and taking Magnesium, Hawthorn, Taurine, HeartCalm, And some other essential vitamins that I have taken forever! I also take Fish oil and Vit E to thin my blood. The Afib episodes haven't disappeared but are much slower and go away quicker(2-21/2 hrs) than they used to. Also seem to come during night when I am asleep for some reason. So all in all feeling better as I am not on rotten meds but still dealing with the monster! This is life, I guess! I don't take any meds when I get it either! Just the supplements (Taurine, Hawthorn) and it is no worse for sure! Don't want ablation as it is not a guaranteed cure and could make me worse! So until they come up with something better than that, I will do it my way! Wondering when/if I need "nattokinase" at some point? Don't know much about that! Take care, Pat

I am interested in knowing how you got off the meds...was it under supervision of a doctor? I take blood pressure meds and having bad side effects. Before my heart problems I didn't take any prescription meds.

HI U PAT,,,,,,,, I take all the supplements that you posted plus Cartizem. I also take Nattokinase because that is what my chelation doctor has his wife take for A Frib.

As all know, I's smart, jus slow. If I miss my stuff then I wake at night with A Fib and I then check my oxygen. Normally it is 98 but when my heart goes crazy, then it is down to 93. I have concluded that I quit breathing in my sleep which brings this on. No way could I wear the WW II gas mask that has been used, but I think I can live with the new nasal system.

I see a specialist in a few weeks. As usual, my advice to all is not to get old. I'm not a fan of MD's because they treat your symptoms and don't try to keep you healthy. However, sometimes you have to treat the symptoms. I think A Fib may fit in that category. No way am I going to do Rat Poison as I've said before.

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Well, kind of used a doctor. No allopath doctor is interested in helping you get off meds, they dont believe in supplements and like the $$ they receive. I used a Naturalpath who was sensible allowing me time to wean off Flec and Metop over 3 months, but it can be a challenge at times. I went into AF 3 times while converting naturally.

Hi to you all

I too hate taking prescribed drugs only because I know they will never be an answer for afib and in the end will come with their own problems, but while big pharma is in control believe me cures are not their business, so all research done is for more toxic drugs to contain this awful condition for more profit, I believe my afib is a symptom of some imbalance in the nervous system which feeds every organ of the body. I work with pumps all day long and it is no different to the heart if there is any blockages or air trap along network of pipes then it will show in the pump which can go erratic (common sense). So it is no good to keep messing with a perfectly good pump when the problem is elsewhere.

Unfortunately, we have a medical system of experts who know nothing about the human body other than their own area of so call expertise it is so frightening we have been going down the wrong road of health care for far too long, just listen to people like Dr John Bergman total common sense stuff which you would think all doctor would know, but they dont, health care now is base on fear and offer no solutions, afib is certainly based on fear, but as long as no-one is looking at the whole picture then there cannot be a permanent answer, drugs only do two things the either block or kill that's it folks!!!, our bodies are miracles and have been doing a great job keeping us healthy all our lifes, so our job is to fine out why this problem is now occurring and eliminate it, not poison it with more toxins.

To start with it is no good eating raw food diet or more greens if they are full of pesticides(toxic) it as to be organic. Get yourself a good water filter to clean the water you drink, take a good omega 3, but if you can get your nervous system checked out by a good chiropractor, If you live in the usa I recommend John Bergman, I live in the uk and I am having trouble finding a chiropractor who does a nervous system check? but always believe you can cure this don't fall into the black hole of despair, try yoga, meditation, and prayer. Don't bottle up your fears like I did for years. It will only make you ill.

Good luck,

Dave

Pat and Dave, Congrats on all your success! I do believe in our bodies ability to heal! I have developed daily proximal afib this past year after having Pac's from dealing with circulatory issues 17years of chronic lyme and mycoplasma with severe symptoms of my scalp muscle and leg spasms. Stress and monthly postmenopausal hemorrhage from altered uterine cells from chronic mycoplasma also occurred during the onset of debilitating daily afib episodes. I take Remag, ReMyte and ReAline to bowel tolerance and other supplements you mentioned but continue with issues. Do you take the Herb Calm and REMag and REMyte? What's the total taurine you take daily as the ReAline does have some? I also do biweekly acupuncture and Chinese herbs to build kidney chi after a vibrant life of 6 kids but now am homebound due to erratic unpredictable afibs (up to 250beats) that have led to passing out, head injury and convulsive syncope. My ekg is ok and blood tests normal. I am looking into ozone for the chronic issues but need to regain NSR which I do have in between serious bouts. You are an inspiration and testimony of body's ability to heal and I appreciate your sharing.Thank you!

Hyssop is adrenal support.

Hi,

I have been taking Taurine and COQ10 and L Carnitine for hbp and then I go and read that one cannot take Taurine for more than a year.. I even asked a famous Cardiologist who wrote books and believes in alternative treatments.. He says you can take L Carnitine for as long as you want and then I read no you can't take that for too long either. So I am so confused...

I also do magnesium and these supplements are a God Send.

What does your doctor say about the length of taking these amino acids...

Taurine is naturally occurring in foods especially meats and seafood with little side effects, so I m not sure why you would need to stop after 1 year. I'll ask next visit to ND. Mag and Hawthorne are the 2 most important for my Atrial Fibrillation condition.

This yog pranayam that your mother is doing is called anulom vilom pranayam. This pranayam is especially beneficial for people with heart, high BP problems, asthama,menstrual problems and the list goes on.....I poste s few days back stating having problems with my menstrual cycle.....i wasnt getting them for ever.......i did yoga for 2 days and there my periods were.....I am an Indian and my own parents and family members have used these teshniques for years now....It is very important that heart patients do anulom vilom very gently .....there are a total of 7 important pranayams.For all others i would recommend doing all 7 pranayams in order....just look up the web for the seven essential pranayams....

Kapalbhati pranayam another greaty pranayam assures of getting rid of all skin ailments, heart, high bp, diabetes,even cancer and helps a great deal with psoriasis....I have been doing yoga for 10 days now.....7 pranayams,7 asanas........aaaaaaaamaazing results........I have started believing in the power of yoga.....My grandmom is 104 yrs old....is pretty fit compared to her age.....her secret yoga...she reads newspaper with her own eyes.....has her own teeth intact......I will comeback and post in more details abnout the various asans and the precautions that should be taken ...as not everyone cannot do all the pranayams.......

Pareept, your post is interesting I have atrial tachycardia, and found yoga to be helpful, but I'm confused about the overwhelming amount of info about it and which asanas and breathing techniques are best for me. The terminology you used helps to guide my on line search for help. Thank you for posting it.

Beta blocker in my opinion makes all other treatments redundant. If the other treatments were effective, poisonous beta blockers wouldn't be necessary.