Borax Cures and Health Benefits

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Posted by Jennifer (Windsor, CA) on 08/26/2007
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Hi read Jackie's post a week or so ago regarding her results with borax and water to shampoo hair. I gave it a try and my hair felt great. I have long, heavy hair and it felt clean, soft and not dried out at all. Is anyone else doing this? I'm curious to see if anyone else had done this long-term as I want to make sure I'm not going to destroy my color-treated hair in the long run. I found a shampoo recipe online last week that included borax, castille soap, glycerin and a couple other ingredients. It turned out to be a disaster - after using a second time, my hair was a matted mess. I'm thinking it was the Dr. Bronner castille soap - which I love for face cleansing, but not on my hair. I used the straight borax and water this morning and my hair feels soft and clean again.

Replied by Marty
Nashville, Tennessee -- Music City, USA
04/21/2009

I, too, have long hair. I ran out yesterday and bought some Borax after reading all of the comments here regarding its use. I'll have to get really brave before I think about ingesting it though! I tried washing my hair in two quarts of warm water with two Tablespoons of Borax. I do give it credit for detangling my hair. Brushing it out wet has always been a chore. Borax simplified that! However, the end result didn't impress me. My hair seemed heavy and wouldn't move. It appeared matted down after dry. I think adding a tiny bit of shampoo will work for me. I am going to try bathing in it for all of the noted benefits, but I truly am the type that needs some shampoo of some sort. Maybe I'll try adding a bit to some Baby Shampoo. I love this website!

Replied by WhollyFool
Farmington, MI
04/21/2009

Hi there,

I had similar problems the first time I used Dr Bronners soap: my hair felt like one big stuck together mass. I wanted to cry I was so upset. Then I used the vinegar rinse (just a splash of white vinegar in some tap water) and my hair smoothed out perfectly. From what I've read, it's a PH problem, so I'm assuming that would be the same with the Borax.

For the record, I tried the castille/vinegar combo out of desperation with my frizzy hair. I don't notice a big difference between my hair with the various high priced shampoo and conditioners I was trying, so I'll stick with the castille/vinegar. At least I know what's in it!

Replied by Rena
Mineral Bluff, Georgia
04/22/2009
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Hi Everyone that reads this,

I've been using the Borax and Water for shampooing my hair for well over a year now. It's kind of hard to get use to in the beginning because it does not foam up but it does get slippery. I am 48 years old, with naturally curly hair, and it is always tangle free and smooth, not dry or oily at all. My one fault is I use a lot of hairspray to keep my hair in place for the day, but the borax and water keeps any buildup from occurring due to the hairspray. I thought why stop there, why not use it all over like a body wash, it's cheap, easy an all in one kind of thing. I can shave my underarms and legs with no problem because it is a slippery solution and the razor just glides on through. I do not have dandruff but never did to begin with so I don't know if it would help with this condition or not.

As far as measurements go, that's hard to say because due to the size of container you are using. Just simply go to the point of saturation, and if there is still some crystals from the borax in the bottom, so what no big deal.

Peace, Rena.


Posted by Jackie (Grand Rapids, Minn.) on 08/12/2007
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Hi, i'm using many of Ted's wonderful remedies. The latest is borax for a shampoo. I was scared at first, thought my hair would be a matted, tangled, dried out mess. Well it works better than any shampoo i've tried, and my stick straight thin hair has new thickness and body. So much so, that i was able to get a chin length haircut with bangs which i didn't dare do before. I don't know if i'm right but i use 2 tbsp borax to 2 qts. warm water and pour it over my head about 3 times then massage my scalp then rinse. i almost forgot to mention i don't need a conditioner or detangling rinse. This makes me really happy because i'm trying to reduce or eliminate chemicals on my skin and body.I use borax water to dampen my hair before a hairset too. I have very light gray hair and i'm trying blackstrap molasses everyday to see if i can get some darker hair back. several people who don't know i'm doing this have said my hair looks darker gray, it definetly is darkening at the hairline on the sides and on the nckline after a short time, so i'm hopeful, but just to be able to have body and thickness to my hair is just thrilling no matter what color it is. Thanks so many times for all this information. jackie

Replied by Cindy
Kansas, USA
10/04/2008

I'd been trying to find the amount of borax to use for shampoo when I stumbled upon a website that sold borax shampoo in the form of 1/8 cup of dry borax in a bottle (appears to be a 1 quart or 1 liter bottle). You simply add water and use as shampoo so I'm going to try that.

Apparently, several people use it but can only find one (Thanks Jackie!) who uses 2 tablespoons borax in 2 quarts of water. How about the others? How much do you use and how do you apply it?

Replied by Dianna
Austin, Tx
12/28/2009
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i've been using borax for a hair wash too. i've used it a couple of different ways - 1 teaspoon in a pint of warm water stired and poured on wet hair, then rinse with water - followed by a 1 teaspoon of ACV in a pint of warm water; rinse again with cold water - and i've used it saturated - which means i put about 1/2 inch in a bottle and filled it with warm water, shook it, and let it sit until no more borax would dissolve (they will be some white crystals which is ok) (then used the same as above) - and i really couldn't tell the difference!!!

both methods leave my hair very full, shiny, smooth, soft - better than anything else i have used!!! before this i was using soap bars which started leaving white residue in my hair when our water quality changed. this is not a problem with borax!

it does seem that the saturated solution may be more prone to 'build up' which means that my hair wasn't quite as shiny (still shiny though) as with the less saturated solution - but this could be because i'm only using ACV to rinse - 1/4 teaspoon citric acid in a pint of water is supposed to be a better rinse - but i have yet to find any and love my ACV rinse. also i like the idea of using less borax since i use it for my laundry and other things.

the other wonderful thing borax has done for me is i have a rat named eric who has always had itchy skin!!! i have tried everything - VCO rubs (to kill mites - he hates VCO) - olive oil, ACV, neem soap, etc. and while some of these work the itchies always come back when it is cold and dry.

the last time this happened he was chewing his skin off and i was desperate and decided to try the borax.

i put about a tablespoon or so into the sink and filled it with warm water and soaked him and massaged his itchy spots. then i rinsed him with plain water.

immediately he stopped itching! he was able to sleep all night that night and has been better since. i have only had to do it once more and it has been a few weeks!!! this time i made sure to get it on his head and this has worked even better.

and rats often suffer from a respitory illness called myco - which seems to me to be similar to pnuemonia - and suprise of suprises! eric's breathing is much better after his borax baths!!! he is an older rattie and has allergies - and while i don't think he has active myco - most ratties do carry myco and they can come down with it if their immune system is compromised.

hope this helps someone! my rattie boy now has much energy and is acting like a young rattie again in spite of being almost 2 years old!!! :)

also my bf has had athletes foot for ever. i finally gave him some borax and he wet his feet in warm water and just scrubbed them with the borax granules. he says his feet haven't itched since he did this!!! and if they do he now knows what to do!!! this is funny to me because he was initially very afraid to use borax LOL

borax rocks!!! YAY!

Replied by Ratgirldjh
Austin, Texas, Usa
01/10/2010

UPDATE: i have been using borax for several weeks once a week to wash my hair with an ACV rinse and i started getting build up on my hair and scalp.

so i went and got the citric acid of which 1/4 tsp. in a pint of water is recommended to rinse borax away since supposedly vinegar and lime or lemon juice is not strong enough to remove the borax.

after i washed again and used the recommended 1/4 tsp. citric acid in a pint of water and then rinsed again my hair was VERY slimy feeling. and then it took over 5 hours to dry.

the next day it felt limp and coated.

finally i washed again and did a stronger citric acid rinse and had the same problem - slimy, coated hair that refused to dry :(

eventually i clarified my hair using clay and i am now afraid to use the borax because it obviously was building up on my hair.

so if you use this method keep an eye out for the borax building up on your hair. in my hair this was evident by it becoming limper and limper and less shiny and feeling very soft and smoother than usual (at first a good thing LOL) and feeling like i had coated it in fabric softener.

then i had little white hard things coming out of my scalp as well as a weird waxy coating on my brush bristles when i would brush.

Replied by Dianna
Austin, Tx
02/11/2010

another update!!!

ok so i started using the borax again since everything else i have tried, eggs, my soap bars, all leave residue on my hair.

what i've found is that if i put 1 tsp. of borax in a pint of warm water and stir it up good and then use it to wash it works great - with no build up!

and i can still use my ACV rinse - 1 tsp. ACV in a pint of warm water!

i think the key is to rinse very well after the borax and then leave the acid rinse on for a few minutes.

citric acid did not work at all for me :(

also the saturated solution built up on my hair very fast - but at this dilution (perhaps because it is not totally saturated) does not appear to be building up on my hair or my scalp.

and i occasionally use this same measurement on my rattie boy if he gets itchy!!!

Replied by Briar Rose
Phoenix Arizona
03/22/2014

I chose to stop coloring my hair and stop using commercial shampoo and conditioners. I tried baking soda and was unsatisfied with results and began using my home made castille (olive oil) soap for shampooing and rinsing with 1 teaspoon vinegar in 1 quart warm water. I was unhappy with results yet chose to stick with my program. I figured since commercial products hyper dry hair and scalp there may be a period of adjustment. Dry scalp will overproduce sebum, a naturally produced waxy substance, and my scalp substantially overproduced for approximately 2 weeks and I immediately noticed burning, itching, soreness with nasty smelling stuff coating roots of my hair especially over ears and along neck hairline about 2 inches wide. (Old commercial product residue my skin was forced to store?) I also noticed 'stuff' in the crown area. Symptoms diminished steadily and by 5 weeks scalp was symptom free and hair was looking substantially improved. Six years have passed and my fine hair has thickened, strengthened and is beautifully shiny. I intend to add borax to my hair and skin regimen. Sometimes patience is required to remove all the crap ignorantly put into the body and all the icky, smelly stuff bodies exude are signs of grateful release of all the garbage the body was forced to endure


Healing Properties  

Posted by Rosy (Bangor, Wales) on 04/19/2012

Hi just want to let you all know there is very good information on borax and it's associated health benefits at this web site

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

It will put your mind at ease about the side effects which may happen when taking the borax.


Heat Rashes  

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Posted by Diana (Ca) on 09/17/2016
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I have been drinking borax, about 1/4 tsp in a glass of water in the morning for about a week. Haven't noticed much change yet.

Last night, I was in pain after two nights of a rash with welts and itching on my thigh. Maybe heat rash, but the weather has been cooler. I got up and took a hot shower and rubbed Borax on my skin and the rash on my leg and rinsed. I felt no more itching and pain afterwards and was able to sleep through the night and the welts have gone down to almost nothing. Today, there is no itching and minimal raised skin.

I will continue with a bit of borax in hand to scrub the skin if I feel the heat rash coming back.

I have dealt with heat rashes for the past 10 years and eliminating soap and skin products has had little effect. I bought the borax last week when I finally found a store that carried it.

I'll post updates if I have further problems.


Home Made Laundry Soap  

Posted by Lin (Tujunga, CA) on 07/23/2009

This isn't exactly a cure, but might help anyone with allergies and sensitivities to chemical laundry detergents.

I bought a box of Borax for the first time and have started making 100% natural laundry detergent, along with a natural soap (Castille is what I used) and Soda Ash (or 'Washing Soda' - which is a more concentrated form of Sodium Bicarbonate/Baking Soda. I bought mine from an Art Supply which was sold as '97% Soda Ash' (people use it to set tye-dye and natural dyes. I read that Arm and Hammer Washing Soda is only about 23 or 30% Soda Ash and has bleach and chemicals added).

There are other ways of washing laundry naturally like soap nuts, etc... I haven't gotten to trying those yet, but just wanted to say how easy and rewarding this was. It's not as laborous as you think! You can find recipes online. It is just a matter of hand grating the soap (which is kind of fun, let the kids do it!), then dissolving the soap in a pan of hot water on the stove, + adding borax and soda ash. White Vinegar can be added to the wash as a natural fabric softener. And for good measure, why not dry some clothes out in the sun! My laundry is coming out beautifully (especially the cottons).

What was once a boring chore is turning into a labor of love. Ok, maybe not EVERY day! But it's inspired me to make many similar changes and get back to the old fashioned ways of life. Afterall, don't they always portray women singing at the clothesline? But we don't do that at the washing machine, do we? Makes me feel like we've lost something there.

Replied by Adriana
Sofia, Bulgaria
03/11/2010

I go further and make my own soap bars with natural fats and lye. I use it to make my own liquid laundry detergent. The soap making process is explained on line. There are also soap calculators on line for proportions of fat, lye and water. Instead of grating my soap, I cut it into smaller pieces and put them in a 10 liter water bottle, add baking soda (about 200 g) and about 100g borax. Fill with water and leave it to melt on its own. Shake it well before each use. I clean at home with baking soda, vinegar, steam-cleaner. I use my own soap as a shampoo and tooth-soap as well. I do not use any chemicals in the house. To remove stains from clothes I use dry clay powder.


Insomnia  

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Posted by Leelannee (Sussex, Nj) on 09/08/2009
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I read about using 1/8 - 1/4 teaspoon of borax in water for various health issues, although not insomnia specifically. I decided to try it, and right away noticed that I was able to fall asleep easily and sleep through the night better. I've had insomnia & nightmares for years & have tried many natural supplements & remedies. I'm often tired but don't feel sleepy...after so many years of insomnia, I LOVE that delicious sleepy feeling! Magnesium has worked ok for me but gets expensive & sometimes I'd be awake for an hour or more after sleeping for just a few minutes. Perhaps the borax is detoxifying flouride or something from my body, or killing off a fungus that was affecting my health. However, I've skipped the borax twice in the last few weeks and had a horrible time that same night. I've read that boron helps you absorb calcium better, and calcium helps you relax and sleep, so maybe that's why it's helping me. In the morning I prepare a liter bottle with 1/4 teaspoon borax and sip it throughout the day. Even if I finish it in the early afternoon or drink the whole bottle an hour before bed, it seems to work


Itchy Scalp  

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 07/12/2012
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I had the worst problem with an itchy scalp for the longest time. I felt compelled to wash my hair at least every other day, sometimes daily because it would make me so crazy! Then, a couple of years ago here on EC, I read about borax for your scalp and decided to try it. Voila! It worked- no more itchy scalp. I would still wash my hair fairly frequently then, I learned of oiling your hair also here on EC. I researched that concept and then started doing that. I found that I no longer needed to wash my hair very often. Maybe every four days now. Somehow the oiling seemed to balance my scalp out and it no longer gets dry or oily or itchy. Lisa


Joint Pain  

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Posted by Daniel (California (ca)) on 10/27/2016
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I HAVE BEEN USING BORAX POWDER OFF AND ON FOR A WHILE...AND notice some pain in n legs and muscles...detox pain...and stopped for a few days and again used it...and off n on...and I began have hip pain and stiffness in joints around hips and legs..and I had not used borax for a few months..about 2 months and I began using it..again a few days ago...and the hip /joint pains have diminished..I dilute a cup of borax powder in a half gallon of water..and shake it up everyday...until the water is saturated.. with borax powder and the left over borax is on the bottom of the bottle..and I shake it up every day...i make lunch with a rice maker..i cook rice...chopped veggies...and change it up every day...but when...the rice maker turns off and its ready to eat..I add a half cup of the water infused borax solution..just one time every day for lunch...and in three days now...my hip/joint stiffness issues have noticeably....subsided a lot..so..I am going to continue this way of getting borax into my bod...and see what happens

Replied by Mia
New Jersey
10/28/2016

Hmm. Maybe I am doing my math wrong. But if you use half a cup of the borax water you are making (1/2 gallon water plus one cup borax) then you are getting 1/16th of the cup of borax, which is a Tablespoon of borax at lunch daily. That is 12 times Ted's recommended dose for men daily. Ted recommends 1/4 teaspoon daily for men.


Lice  

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Posted by Piper (Toronto, On) on 09/05/2010
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Used borax to treat family for lice. Mixed dishsoap with 1 tbsp of borax to make a shampoo. Used borax in hot water to wash bedding, stuffies. Use dryer. Put borax in spray bottle with hot water to spray carpets and pillows and furniture that couldn't be laundered. Vaccuum. Be careful doing this around crawling babies or small toddlers or pets.

Replied by Kim
Ontario, Ca
09/06/2010

How many times did you have to wash your hair? Did the borax kill the first time you used it? I just washed my hair with vinegar, Listerine coconut shampoo with tea tree oil in it.... Waiting for the itching to come back. As it always does....


Lichen Planus  

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Posted by Shahnaz (London, United Kingdom) on 05/16/2010
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Hi Ted, I have SLE/Sjogren's syndrome since 18 years, and for the past few years had a rash on my right leg shin and gradually its spread on my other leg, over my body. the rash is called lichen planus. as the itch is driving me mad, im up to try anything to relieve me as it is getting worse, the medicines are not helping so i stopped everything. currently detoxing, having a complete vegetarian diet, juicing and started to drink the soda bicarbonate. I have washed my infected wounds with borax, it helps drying but makes it very itchy. could you recommend anything for this skin condition please. Much obliged, shahnaz

EC: Hi Shahnaz,

The Q&A page on the Lichen Planus section has one answer from Ted: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/lichen_planus_questions.html#Question_1159

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
05/20/2010
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Borax helps drying, however, to stop the itch, a tannic acid solution may be needed. A weak one for topical application is 1/2 teaspoon of tannic acid per 1/2 cup of water. It is then applied and the itching should stop within about 2 minutes. To remove the drying after the itch goes away, a couple of more applications maybe needed, then apply moisturizing oil. The oil I use is grape oil mixed with some aloe vera oil, or any appropriate moisturizing skin care oil might be helpful.

The only problem is in some countries, such as Canada, tannic acid is not obtainable. An appropriate substitute such as tea tree oil, lavender oil and some sunflower oil in equal amounts might help. If tannic acid is taken internally a very low dose such as 1/4 per liter of drinking water is free of side effect and further help the SLE conditions also by denaturing them and prevent their spread. I am now currently using borax/tannic acid/ and H2O2 for similar symptoms, and baking soda as in 1/2 teaspoon twice a day in a cup of water will further reduce the symptoms.

Replied by Robin
Northern Michigan, US
01/16/2015

Hello Shahnaz, I want to comment on your SLE. Please look into using Celtic Sea Salt. It has a lot of minerals we cannot get anywhere else but from a live salt. CSS has not been refined, processed, bleached, leached or otherwise. It is not that expensive and a ceramic hand grinder is the best to use with a wet salt.

Too often, an autoimmune disease is cause by mineral deficiencies, in my experience.

Best, Robin


Lupus  

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Posted by Helen (Galway, Ireland) on 06/14/2010

borax and lupus nephritis (kidney involvement)

hi, i am wondering is it ok to take borax with kidney disease caused by lupus? i also have high blood pressure. i wanted to take ted's advice and take baking soda, borax, msm, vit bcomplex. I couldn't find anyone else's thread who had kidney involvement. thank you.


Posted by Michael (Lakewood, NJ) on 06/30/2007
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Borax treatment for Lupus: I am on day 5 of my 1/4 tsp borax & 1/2 tsp baking soda w/ acv treatment for my Lupus & it is Working!!

I have severe skin problems, butterfly rash, redness on farhead, etc., it is really getting less noticeable each day.

Still have a little brain fog & head pains, some joint pain but all lesser, I did camphor 10% alcohol rub (couldnt find powder), with eucilyptus, and it did help. Im wondering if after 2-3 wks all symptoms are gone if they come back again??

Replied by Jan C
Earth, Ny
06/11/2011

After doing this, try a pinch of borax in your drinking water. Also check out Dr. Hilda Clark's website and try all of her cleanses. They have worked wonders for my Candida. Colloidal Silver worked to cure my Rosacea!

Replied by Jan
Earth, Ny
06/13/2011

How much apple cider vinegar do u use and do u put this all together in a glass of steamed Distilled water? If so, how much water? Thanks!


Mites  

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Posted by Susannah (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia ) on 10/04/2010

Hi Ted, thanks for the info. I've been trying the HP Borax solution on some moderately bad rosacea for the last week or so. I've seen some improvement but I notice you say Borax should be taken internally to effectively kill the mites. I'm very hesitant because I'm three months' pregnant and I've received advice that it could cause miscarriage. I'm hoping you or anyone else might have some knowledge about this or might be able to recommend a safer alternative. Many thanks.

Replied by Lily
Brisbane, Australia
10/05/2010

Hi Sussanah, I take borax about 4-5 days a week at about 1/4tspn in 1 litre of water then stop for a week. I would not recommend taking it while you are pregnant. It is just not worth the risk. Start taking it after you have finished breastfeeding.

Replied by Susannah
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
10/16/2010

Hi Lily, many thanks for getting back to me. That's pretty much what I thought -- I'll hold out until after breastfeeding and look for other safer remedies.


Posted by Nettie (Banning, Ca) on 01/18/2010
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Demodex Mites - Hi Ted,

I'am on my fifth day of the borax treatment 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of water and I have noticed the itching is not as bad anymore. Now I only feel them on my face sometimes when they are moving around. I have been loosing eyelashes for 2months now and I have also been using tea tree oil in all my face products and shampoo. My question is what can I use on my face since it feels so dry after everything I use. I hear that using creams on your skin only makes it worse its like mite food, but I cant stand feeling my face so dry and stretched out. Please advise me on what I should be applying on my face. I also wanted to ask you if the demodex mites could have come from a homemade cream I ordered online since there is no perservatives could it be they live in these creams?

Replied by Dianna
Austin, Tx
01/18/2010

try some virgin coconut oil on your face or even extra virgin olive oil.

both of these will also help smother the mites. i have treated pets of mine who had mites in the past by putting on a generous layer of virgin coconut oil and rubbing it into their skin and fur.

so for sure it won't make the mites worse!!!

djh

Replied by Dj
Mv, Mo
01/19/2010

For Nettie from Banning... I can not use creams or oils on my skin. My mom gave me a glycerin-based product with "fermented" copper and other minerals in it. She got it from a TV shopping channel. Worked absolute wonders! Hope this helps.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
01/19/2010
386 posts

I don't know exactly for demodex mites but a Morgellon's (which is quite close) do survive in them, at least one that I know that happened in Hawaii, as the guy who makes the cream had Morgellon's disease, so that's how the buyer got it. While there's no demdodex mites, the Morgellon's certainly spew out tiny bugs out of her skin, almost like a demodex mites. It's best to make the creams or remedies yourself. Certain things used in creams and lotions do die, such as lemon oil, orange oil, or even tea tree for example, but that depends on how much those were used to have some killing effect.

Another common method of getting mites is from used furniture or clothes from strangers, family or friends who had demodex mites.

Replied by Pluto
New York, Ny, Usa
06/02/2011

Nettie, I also use borax on my face. After a layer or two of borax (mixed with HP and TTO) is dry I put on a generous amount of Sea Buckthorn Oil. I get a bit orange, but that's not the end of the treatment. After that I put on 20% zinc cream from the drugstore (baby section), which is white. I just do a thin layer, but it cuts the orange and I look pretty much normal, and the zinc is a sunscreen. After that I dust with face powder if I feel it is needed. Sea Buckthorn Oil is labeled as being good for rosacea.


Posted by Scott (Anytown, Usa) on 08/13/2009
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Hello all,

Hope this is beneficial to some other like sufferers...

I have been suffering from skin Mites for the past 2.5 years.

Been on Iodine hard for about a month or so, big help. 20 - 30 drops SSKI 2 or 3 times a day, SSKI I got off curezone. 5 drops Magnascent once or twice a day. 2 weeks ago I started with the Borax as well. I use 1/4 tsp in 1 quart of distilled water and consume 2 of these a day. I'm also having 1 - 3 Tblspn of Flax oil a day and also oil pulling each morning for 20 minetes first thing.

The relief has been phenomenal, 95%. Just what I needed after 2.5 years of absolute hell.

I believe in the power of Iodine and Borax working together.

I have Curezone and this forum to thank for my progress and a elevated outlook on life. All you Iodine and BoronBorax users have been a great help. As a result of Ted and Ginagirl (curezone) post's, jumping over the wall and trying borax was a breeze.

Lets keep the light on.

Scott

Replied by Scott
Anytown, Usa
07/14/2010

Hello all,

Just here to update my usage of Borax as my source of Boron. It's the 14th of July 2010 and I've been ingesting roughly 1/4 tsp of Borax daily for over a year. It has continued to be a great help with my skin mites and now I am using it in a P&B shake to help clear the fungal overgrowth in my intestines from my Candidias. We all have choices to make about what we use for our health and how we use it. My health is ultimately my responsibility, as such I choose to educate myself. Scott



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