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Posted by Sherry (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) on 09/27/2013

I will be going to Cuba in the near future. I have just started Borax - less than 1/8 tsp in a litre of water. Can I add Borax to it because coconut water is all I am going to be drinking when I am there for a week?

Thank you. Sherry

Replied by Prioris
Fl, Usa
09/27/2013
In order for Borax to be effective it needs magnesium so I would take it with a little magnesium if your body tends to be deficient in it.

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Posted by Monica (Rutland, Vermont) on 11/25/2011

Ahhhhh!!! I am sooo confused.. I just started making my own dishwasher detergent with Borax (Mule Team) and Arm & Hammer Washing Soda, and was about to make a batch of Laundry detergent using the same ingredients, Now I read that I should not be using Borax ( especially in Dishwasher ) because it could be leeching into my dishes therefore my food and making us sick... Can someone PLEASE calm my fears? Or at least tell me the real truth? Trying to be green and healthy as well as save money.

Also, if Bleach was accidently mixed with a detergent that I didn't know had ammonia in it, (another homemade cleaner),could it have damaged my or whomever used it lungs, and would the symptoms show immediately? Daughter has been sick for a month with lung issues, and now I am thinking back to that homemade bathroom cleaner, she does have allergies, and it is that season at our house, dust, pets, pollens etc.. So maybe I am just panicking...

Replied by Francisca
Zug, Zug, Switzerland
12/01/2011
Monica, you are not the only one trying to do your best but never quite knowing exactly what the best is or whether what you are trying out might harm you or your family! I always wonder why in the 21st century there is so much disinformation around..... I am in a permanent state of confusion so you are not the only one!
Replied by Sarah
Thornton, Co
05/15/2014
Borax isn't toxic on your dishes even if there's an invisible film. You can take it internally for many health benefits.
Replied by Vonita
Edmonton, Ab
04/02/2016
The dishwasher detergent would be a lot more poisonous to you than borax. Borax in small doses is necessary for our health. There are 20 MG of Boron (the element in Borax) in an organic apple. We are all deficient because it isn't an element added in the commercial fertilizers. Boron will help most conditions.

Posted by Piper (Toronto, On) on 09/05/2010
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Add a tbsp to dishwasher and cut amount of soap in half. Best clean ever. Clear glasses. Also seems to eliminate the crud that sticks to dishes. Can also use baking soda. Now I use 1/2 borax and 1/2 baking soda mix.


Posted by Elaine (Edmond, USA) on 06/07/2008
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I tried mixing my dishwasher detergent with Borax and found my dishes and glasses sparkled. Not a spot on them. I no longer have to buy Jet Dry.


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Posted by Pinch (London, England) on 03/04/2015
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Hi everyone,

I have to say this site is very enlightening! I have been using Borax 20 team Mule for about 8 weeks now. Dosage 1/4 tsp in a pint of distilled water with 7 drops of Lugol's iodine and a splash of apple cider vinegar. Consumed each day.

Right now I am in a lot of pain, actually I am finding it hard to write, otherwise I would be far more polite.

I am 52 going on 53, male. 6'2", weigh about 90kg, I don't carry a lot of fat. Around 3 years ago I started to experience a lot of pain around my joints, shoulders and back.

I am a landscape gardener and sometimes the work is extremely physically labour intensive as I do a lot of garden construction. I live in London and a lot of the gardens are inaccessable to machines, diggers and the like, so it's all by hand.

I have noticed that after a hard day at the office that the morning after my body feels like its on fire and the pain is everywhere. My body is also very stiff all over and takes about 2 hours to limber up. I am inclined to believe that I have fibromyalgia like symptoms.

Since taking Borax I have noticed improvements in finger joints, knees and elbows. They feel stronger and less sensitive.

Right now though I have developed extreme pain in my right hip and I think it is the joint itself, also my right leg is numb along its length. I am not able to walk more than a few steps as the pain is unbearable. I have also developed a chest infection which seems to be clearing somewhat but this morning I was coughing up a disgusting green sputum.

Over the last 2 months or so I have been working hard on my house in preparation to sell it and move lock stock and barrel's to South West France where we own a very old farm which needs restoring from top to bottom. Part of my prep has been to try and rid myself of these physical ailments so that I will be fit and healthy for the work ahead which is considerable.

I have never had problems in my hips and if this problem persists then I will be fit for nothing. I have 2 sons aged 15 and 7 and we had daughter last September so you see I need all my strength most importantly for them and the wife. I think I might have overdosed on the Borax.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Julian

Replied by Nanowriter
Hotspot, Texas
03/04/2015
Julian, I suspect that when we are generally low in vitamins and minerals, it is possible that supplementation can exacerbate other deficiencies.

Going on this premise, you might want to look into the vitamins that tend to be depleted by boron--possibly vit d, calcium and especially magnesium. High vitamin A may help with the lung infection issue.

Replied by Iowama
Usa
03/04/2015
Dear Pinch, I am sorry you are in such pain and I have not used Borax. We share a background in hard horticultural work, however, and I am going to throw out a few things that have stopped the pain that used to wake me up in the night. My pain was in my hands, neck, and ankles and, after doing a lot of reading, I found help through simple changes. I did drink a tea made from vinegar for a while, but later amended my diet to keep my body alkalized. I started drinking a lot more unflouridated water and stopped most alcohol, all flour, sweets, and dairy. These last 4 are common sources of inflamation. I don't know about you, but some of the joints that were painful actually looked reddish each morning. Now my joints are the same color as the skin around them and I rarely feel morning stiffness. In fact, your letter reminded me that I hadn't given stiffness a thought in many months. The thing about this site is that one never knows what things have already been tried, but perhaps you may find something useful here. Good luck to you.

Pinch, If I may add another comment, I just remembered another change I made that helped joint pain and stiffness. It was just the simple taking of a couple of calcium capsules per day. Now I have switched to drinking homemade bone broth instead. My feeling is that you had damaged joints and now have fibromyalgia as well.

Replied by Pinch
London, England
03/08/2015
Here is a link with great information re fluoride:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_y3Cw8MVg

Replied by Pinch
London, England
03/08/2015
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Many thanks for taking the time to reply to my post Nanowriter and Iowama. I have also written a couple of emails to Ted but so far no reply, which is not suprising considering his difficulties.

I have done a lot of reading on Borax and in 1 article found on the internet somewhere it stated that Borax can bring on a Herxheimer reaction resulting in stiffness and pain in the shoulders in hips accompanied by numbness in hands and feet.

This indeed happened to me in a big way, first in the shoulders which subsided after a few days. Sometime later I noticed similar side effects in my right leg and then my hip which became excruciatingly painful and the pain extended down to my right knee. These areas are still very painful but it is beginning to lessen. I think I am having a Herxheimer reaction. I have always been an avid brusher of teeth using fluoridated toothpaste and I am convinced that this is part of the reason for my plight. I also discovered that it is possible that I am being decalcified. Apparently the sciatic nerve can be severely calcified from fluoride and the decalcification process is not on the list of great ways to have a good time. These articles go on to say that the Herxheimer reaction is a sign of healing and not to give up, so I have kept going. 10 weeks into it now.

I know that throughout my life I have subjected my body to gruelling feats of endurance as this my OTTP nature. You always pay the price somewhere down the line but hopefully it is not to late to put things right and also learn a bit of moderation.

I am now alkalising with Bicarb and also taking high doses of ascorbate acid, epsom salts in baths and internally. The baths are wonderful!

I have a big "L" plate on my back in regards to alternative remedies but I am a firm believer that God has provided everthing we need in nature for healing. The problem it seems is that we systematically consume food that is not beneficial to health and that medical science loves a sick population to maximise their profits. "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." History provides all the evidence we need of this sad fact.

Many thanks again and good health to you always! Julian

Replied by Steven
Pennsylvania, Usa
04/20/2015
I don't think you overdosed but I read that for persons with RA they often get worse before they get better. Hang in there or reduce your dose if you feel you must but I think in a few weeks you will find that there will be improvement. Research the herxheimer reaction possible with borax. Read about it at http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

Posted by Dave (Australia) on 01/04/2015

Hi my name is David.

I feel rather stupid about this. I have been reading a lot about borax for some of my ailments. Long story short, I have got a little mixed up with the rates. I have just taken a quarter of a teaspoon in 600ml of water. I now realise this may be way too much. I worried it will have some adverse affect. please help

Replied by Jenn
Coborra, Australia
01/04/2015
I read on here some weeks ago that the quantity is the very tip of your finger in 1 litre of water, so about 15 grains of the stuff per 1000 mils.

As for your mixture..I would drink a lot of water about 3 litres, over the next couple of days then make a new batch, and when it does not taste soapy, you know you have it about right.

Now, I too am in Australia and wanted to ask you what borax you are using? This is because Hovex is no longer available anywhere around here, only the brand, Bare Essentials.

Replied by David
Australia
01/04/2015
Hey again. Thanks for replying. I bought the bare essentials borax from Coles for bout 5 dollars. I read the msd sheet and it said it had no added fragrances. So I assumed this was fine????.I also feel totally fine a day after so I'm not so worried now.
Replied by Mama To Many Donate

Tennessee
01/05/2015
Dear David,

I think Ted's recommended dosage of borax for men is 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of water per day. 5 days a week. So you were not way off base. You might drink more water to dilute it further.

My husband takes borax five days a week. If he takes too much it gives him digestive distress. But it doesn't last too long. I would encourage you not to worry.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by David
Australia
01/05/2015
I read it was a quarter of a teaspoon in a litre of water. That makes your solution. Then you on take one or two teaspoons of that litre solution per day. Can someone clarify if this is correct??

EC: Hi David,

Many people on EC have reported trying Ted's borax protocol, as follows:

Men: 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of filtered water. Sip on the borax water throughout the day until the liter is finished. Next day, prepare another liter. 5 days on, 2 days off.

Women - 1/8 teaspoon in a liter of filtered water. Same instructions as above.

Drink plenty of water without borax during the day as well.

Replied by Maria
Gippsland, Australia
01/05/2015
Hi David& Jenn, We have been using the bare essensials brand for a while now. I think it may be the only one available now in the suppermarkets. Harpers is not available any more here in Vic. At least l cant find it now. A mistake was made when I was very ill and I took aprox 1.5 tsp (yes more than 1 but less than 2 tsp with no ill effects. No matter how sick I am I have never made this mistake again. It is interesting to look at the msds of borax & the msds of sodium chloride (salt) and see how safe borax really is. Although as mama to many said digestion can be temporarily upset & I would assume hormones would be effected with larger doses.
Replied by Jenn
Cobbora, Australia
01/05/2015
To Dave.... Re Borax:

Harpers and Hovex seem to be discontinued in many places in Australia unless there is old stock..As it doesn't go off in the traditional sense of the word, should you be able to access any of this it would still be ok to use.

I recently bought some Borax at our local Coles Supermarket, namely Bare Essentials...but I haven't used this yet... so hope this helps.

Replied by Elizabeth
Thornleigh, Nsw, Australia
04/29/2015
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Hi,

After checking one of the other links about the effect on Candida, I now understand why this body is feeling currently worse. The mucus, pain in hand and finger joints, spinal stenosis symptoms of pinched nerves affecting neck, eyes, nose, ears, arms, skull (massive pain), depression etc. etc. - all part of the detox. I'm glad I read that as I had a feeling these are CURRENTLY detox symptoms and I'm prepared to continue until the boron in the Borax finally works, as I need a job. I'm 63. My meditation also gives relief to the pressure. Not a cure, but helps. Taking pressure off the mind takes pressure off the body.

Another place to get it in Oz is at Bunnings - same brand.

Good to read all this feedback on the effect of boron. I'm so grateful I finally discovered the info online. It gives hope.

Thank you all and I wish success - no more suffering and pain to you all.

Elizabeth

Replied by Lucy
Australia
06/12/2015
IGA supermarkets carry Harpers Borax in the cleaning section.
Replied by Christina
Australia
12/05/2015
Hi David, are you 100% sure Bare Essentials Borax is perfect? No additives??? Please let me know!
Replied by Frances
Cabarlah, Qld.
12/07/2015
Hi, You can buy Harper's powdered borax at IGA; I did until I discovered I could get a 20kg. bag from Blants wellbeing and lifestyle, much cheaper even with freight. They are closed over Christmas New Year.

Posted by Erik (London, UK) on 09/14/2014

Hallo there,

I am interested in using borax to heal myself. I am not sure about the dosage you recommend. I saw people saying here on website 1/4 or 1/8 teaspoon in one litre of water. That's clear.

What I need to know is if that one litre of water I am gonna be having for one day only, meaning every day new litre with new1/8 tsp or for the whole five days. (then two days off) .

Plus I'd like to know what supplements I need to take and how much to heat up the water when mixing it with borax.

I try to find the answer on your website but didn't see it.

Thank you.

Regards, Erik

Replied by Timh Donate

KY
09/16/2014
Erik: As a replacement for the oral route, I instead use 1/4 cup Borax in a whole body hot bath w/ also 1/4 cup Epsom Salt and 1/4 cup Baking Soda. This is a good bit of Sodium so one would be wise to also take a Potassium supplement or drink up on the Apple Juice.

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Posted by Barking Bandicoot (Melbourne, Australia) on 06/04/2015
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I have been taking borax in water for mites/fungus but what I have found is that my eye sight has gotten a lot better! I web searched boron and vision and sure enough it is beneficial!

Replied by Andrew
England
06/06/2015
That's interesting BB, I too have been taking borax for few months with the pleasant side effect of a Testosterone boost so have a higher sex drive and keeping a lean muscle mass. I looked into this and borax has been shown to increase Testosterone in men by as much as 28%. I am 52.
Replied by Brian
Ft Worth
12/10/2015
Andrew. how much borax do you take to increase testosterone?
Replied by Deebee
Germany
08/27/2016
How should I take borax for better eye sight?!? How much of borax and how?
Replied by Mama To Many Donate

Tennessee
08/27/2016
Ted's original recommendation is this:

For men: 1/4 teaspoon borax in 1 liter of water sipped throughout the day. 4 days on and 3 days off.

For women: 1/8 teaspoon borax in 1 liter of water sipped throughout the day, 4 days on and 3 days off.

If you notice side effects, reduce the amount taken. It could take months to notice improvement, so don't give up right if it doesn't seem to be working right away. My husband has been doing this for about a year and a half.

~Mama to Many~


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Posted by Denise (Biloxi, Mississippi ) on 05/25/2009
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Fibro/Flouride:

A brief history. 7 years ago thyroid cancer, the next year adrenal fatigue then early menopause, the following year uterine prolapsed followed by hysterectomy- the following year fibromyalgia and neuropathy. Early Childhood was fluorinated water along with fluoride tablets. Fall of 2008 I was looking at total disability. I could barely walk and couldn't sleep because of the pain and was throwing up daily from the pain in my back. I was on many medications that gave me no relief and I have since found out that they had fluoride as a binding agent. I was sure that my life was over at 45, but thanks to Ted and Earthclinic I am almost at 100%. After reading about fluoride I came to understand where all of my problems originated. I had all the symptoms and reactions. It has been an uphill battle with my doctors and relatives, but you can't argue with a body that is almost pain free. I began the borax detox of 1/8 tsp in a liter of water and within 3 days my symptoms were almost gone. I watch everything I eat and can detect fluoride in vitamins, foods and drinks within 15 minutes of ingesting it. I still suffer from the neuropathy and some pain from the neuropathy but I am off all meds and I have my life. I only wish more people would try to understand the fluoride connections. My sister and mother both suffer with side effects of fluoride and I have only been able to influence my mother. I still borax 5 days on and two days off and give my body a break every month or so for about a week. Thank you :)

Replied by Sher
Snyder, Tx
07/20/2010
Just wanted to ask yea if the borax helped with the neuropathy. My husband was diagnosed 2 months ago and nothing seems to help. He is up every night cant sleep and pain level on scale 1-10 is 8 or 9. He says he is starting to deal with cramping and soreness but the pains that shoot up his legs and burning of his feet he cannot stand. He lays in the floor and cries at times. He is taking gabapectin 200 mg 4 times a day and is on hydracodone. I feel helpless and would like to help find some kind of relief for him. I have him taking b12, b6, chromium picolate, and L-carintene, also magniusm. Just wondering how much borax he should try. And make sure it is safe to drink. Thanks alot!!!
Replied by Tashimoto
Vancouver, Canada
11/06/2011
REPLY TO SHER FROM SNYDER TX... I have read many testimonials on iherb.com of people having success with neuropathy using Benfotiamine, a form of Vitamin B1.

Good luck!

Replied by Fiona
Tustin, Ca
03/25/2013
I felt so sorry about your husband. I used to cry out of pain. Arthritis, stomach ache, low memory. Even painkillers didn't help me. Everything changed when I tried a coffee enema.

About 1 minute after coffee goes into my body, pain just disappeared. It worked for headache, period pain, joint pain, just about any pain.

Replied by Yvette
Germany
05/18/2015
I used for Fibro high dose of Vitamin D3 10,000IU daily with high dose Vit K2 -MK4, and very high dose of B12, within 2 weeks 80 % of my symptoms were gone, the moment I stop, they come back so it could be a deficiency in those above mentioned.
Replied by Koy
Sofia
06/05/2016
Hi Yvette, how much vit k2 you use. Thank you!
Replied by D Hobbs
Crossville, Tn
06/12/2016
@ Sher Regarding Magnesium, is your husband taking it orally or using the Magnesium Oil?

If he is deficient in Magnesium, it is easier to fill his cells with the spray, 2 to 3 times a day, with not side effects, he can get up to 1000 mg per day. My nerve pain went away in 3 weeks doing this.


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Posted by Mick (Ravenna, Ohio, Usa) on 07/26/2010
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Boiron USA makes a homeopathic borax tablet which can be purchased at most healthfood stores (some of which didn't even know they had it). It comes in a tiny plastic tube and can only be marketed to cure canker sores per FDA. I have found it in a 30C and 6C version. I am currently taking the 30C version at three micro tablets per day for flouride poisoning and will post results as they happen. Stay healthy stay strong.

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08/05/2010 Update:

After 3 days on Borax microtablets for flouride poisoning I have a few things to report:

First and foremost was an amazing side effect that I didn't expect. I have experienced what I call "floaties" in my eyes, these are black hazy spots that move when I move my head, that I have had for years and are now gone. After day one my vision was a little blurry, but after day 2 no more blur and no more floaties. It wasn't till after day three that I was really shocked. As I was driving to work I passed a sign that I hadn't been able to read for years and I read the sign. I immediately called my wife and read to her all the license plates of the cars in front of me, which I haven't been able to do. Finally, I could make out the pine needles on the pine tree in my back yard, yet another pleasant surprise. I did experience some extra joint pain and it definitely fired up my kidneys but both subsided after day 2. I did experience the testicular pain and found this was probably due to the high levels of sodium in the area which flouride tends to bind to easily. Boiron recommends using product for only 3 days at a time and I am currently on a break. I definitely recommend this product to anyone who's flouride levels are high.

Replied by Deirdre
Atlanta
08/11/2010
Many thanks to Mick for letting us know about the homeopathic version of borax. For some reason, I had a tough time finding the product based on Mick's two posts while searching on Google. I finally found it on Amazon.com (once I plugged in the right key words) and ordered a pack of 5 over the weekend. Just got them yesterday.

Here's the 5-pack I bought on Amazon. You can also buy single packs.

If you want to search Google Shopping, here's the link.

For those who, like me, find it impossible to read the tiny print on the container, it says: "5 pellets in the mouth three times a day until symptoms subside." As mentioned by Mick, this product is used for canker sores.

Replied by Prioris
Fl, Usa
09/27/2013
Homeopathy is an energy medicine. It changes the water itself. That is why the more diluted it is, the more power it has. The medicine is in the water/alcohol. Not really in the substance although the substance helps change the water.
Replied by Yvette
Germany
05/18/2015
You have to take a break of 4 weeks when using C Potencies in Homeopathy, the higher the potency the longer it lasts in your blood (unless u drink coffee, which is one of the biggest antidote of Homeopathy) do not repeat too often u could get "proving" symptoms of th e Remedy, so less is more, also its not about quantity but about quality one pellet goes a long way it last 4 weeks in blood and does its job. Only in very acute conditions one can repeat more often, (and then its better to use LM Potencies then C)in chronic conditions once a month is enough.

Posted by David (Surrey, BC Canada) on 02/19/2009
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Tried borax for almost 2 weeks

Hi, I tried borax starting with about 1/32 a teaspoon and working up to 1/4 teaspoon, and I had a negative reaction to it. I only used it for about 2 weeks total, but for the last 3 weeks, since I stopped using it, I have had kidney, testicle, and head aches. The pain in my testicles and my headaches mostly stopped about a week ago, but I am still having problems with kidney pain.

Incidentally the pain decreased when I introduced calcium/magnesium in a 2:1 formula, as I knew that magnesium was good for kidney health, but the other pains continued and I just had to stop in fear of might be happening. I still am having kidney pain - only light pain now - occasionally throughout the day, especially at night when trying to sleep. I REALLY wish I hadn't tried the borax (20 mule team).

I am still looking for an alternative to the borax! As now that I think about family members, I see 3 different conditions that are probably caused by fluoride. Thanks for the information though I wish I hadn't participated in the borax 'trial'.

Replied by Doug
Show Low, Az
09/04/2009
I bought the 20 mule team all ready to use it too, but I read the box and it WARNS: DO NOT TAKE INTERNALLY CONTAINS SODIUM TETRABORATE DECAHYDRATE which i assume is borax but i'm guessing that it is probably not a good grade of it. maybe try ordering some cosmetic grade.

EC: Sodium tetraborate decahydrate is one of the synonyms for Borax (aka Sodium borate decahydrate)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_tetraborate_decahydrate

Replied by Lou
Tyler, Tx
02/29/2012
Doesn't cilantro and garlic pesto work for fluoride detox? Or is it heavy metals??? I think Chlorella works for fluoride.

Cilantro Pesto

1 clove garlic
1/2 cup almonds, cashews, or other nuts
1 cup packed fresh cilantro leaves (and smaller stems)
2 tablespoons lemon juice (a professional chef recommends just one Tbl of lemon juice)
6 tablespoons olive oil
Celtic Sea Salt to taste (www.healthfree.com is where you can order your salt)

Blend the cilantro and olive oil in a blender, add other ingredients to make a nice smooth paste, then go ahead and add some nuts and/or seeds: pistachio, cashews, almonds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, you name it. Have fun. Add it to your favorite pasta and serve warm or cold. Remember, cayenne pepper added to anything has a synergistic effect, making all the other ingredients work better. Simple fact.

Replied by Paul
Indiana
05/22/2016
I keep reading of people on here taking a 1/4 teaspoon dose. The directions I read said to mix 6 grams with one liter of water and use that as your concentrate. So you would take one teaspoon dose from the concentrate. Is this the right way?

Posted by Mark (Silver Spring, Maryland) on 12/24/2008

I was pleased to read that there's an inexpensive way to detox from, as well as neutralize, fluoride. Haven't yet found 20 Mule Team Borax in Safeway or Giant. (I live in the Washington, DC area). What about boron supplement? 250 3mg capsules cost $4.00 online from Swanson Vitamins. If it can be substituted, what would be the dosage? Thanks for any information.

Replied by T
Baltimore, MD, USA
12/25/2008
Mark, my local Giant sells the 20 Mule Team borax. You should ask the manager of yours about getting some in. I don't see why they shouldn't if others in the chain do carry it. Good luck.
Replied by Keshia
Bowie, Md
03/24/2010
Mark, I've been able to find 20 Mule Team borax at the Shoppers Food in Bowie.

Posted by James Wallace (Seattle, Washington / USA) on 11/16/2008
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A few years ago I used Borax to reduce fluoride and got a rash on my hands and feet. This is a classical sign of Borax / boron poisoning (I really don't consider it a real poisoning).

Since I really liked what Borax did for me, until I got the rash,I thought if I ever find a way to get ride of the rash I must share it. Mostly because I lost about 15 pounds in 15 weeks while taking Borax (seems that's another side effect of "Borax poisoning").

The thing that worked for me was taking niacin to flush. So you don't want to use flushless niacin. 500 mg to 1000 mg does it for me. I do it as soon as I wake up for the day.

Seems the niacin flush opens the capularies wider and alows larger particles to get out of the hands and feet. The palms of the hands and the soles of the feet are where the Borax rash occurs. It takes awhile to get completely clear of the boran that acumulates there, But releaf from the rash only takes days.

Here's the interesting thing; to make the flushing of boron faster you actually have to quit the niacin until the rash comes back. Then you restart the niacin and it clears up again. In my case this worked asimetricaly. First the sole of my left foot cleared up, then my right palm. After that my right sole and then my left palm.

And now I am clear of Borax / boron poisoning. So now I can take Borax again. It did take a couple of years to get back to normal for me. But if I had figured out how to do the "use niacin for a month and quit until the rash comes backs and start niacin again" I think I could have cleared this up in four to six months.

The possible reason I might have had born acumulation is because I may have smaller capularies than other people.

I don't consider "Borax / boron poisoning" to be a real poisoning because really only the rash and the weightloss are the only side effects.

And the reason I wanted to publish this here is because I don't want any of you to be hesitent to use Borax because of my last post where I said I had gotten the boron rash. And because Borax is safe and effective.

Replied by Ted Donate

Bangkok, Thailand
11/17/2008

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The only rash I have reported from borax came from Morgellon's Disease, Lyme, and Lupus that flushes out the nanoinsects and mycoplasma that lies deep into the system. It seems the use of niacin made the autoimmune disorder worse. So the rash is not a poisoning it's an autoimmunity. I still have a large box of nanoinsects where they come out on the skin, from one of the earthclinic reader, that are in the millions sitting on my desk. It killed off the nanoinsect which surfaces. The niacin is a double edged sword. In one cases the use of morgellons' got worse in another case, the taking of niacin together with borax killed the nanoinsect much faster. Therefore the rash if it is non-Mogellons, turns out to be a mycoplasma that seems to cause the joint pain.

As to the weight loss some, not all, will have that benefit from borax. The issue is if a person has low hormones or low blood boron, the supplementation of boron raises the bodys' hormones (e.g. growth hormone, sex hormone - it works like a viagra) and cause the body's metabolism to burn the fat faster. In fact boron it self is a surfactant that increases the body's hormone's efficiency even if the hormones is still low. In fact fats and oils lowers the body's hormones by blocking them, while surfactants, such as boron and lecithin helps hormones to function normally by removing the fats from blocking as it is soluble to the surfactant.

I don't support or condone the use of boron, but I find it necessary still for removal of fluoride which is a lot more toxic then boron, and still I don't use everyday either, but in conditions of autoimmune disease, Morgellon's, Lupus, these condition are very debilitating to the point that one case the debilitation lasted about two decades before the recovery is possible upon supplementation with baking soda, potassium citrate and borax.

A proper use of borax is to dissolve in one liter of water 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon. In event of colder climates the solubility of borax maybe reduced.so it may have to be dissolved in two liter of water. What I suspect however is that borax was not dissolved in a liter to two liter of drinking water here.

The other issue if niacin if not properly used can make the condition worse in event of an autoimmunity and is not likely will be posted as a remedy and used only as a last resort , after alkalizing remedy is used, and EDTA is used. Most of the cloggings or rashes after examining if it is not nanoinsects, mycoplasma, Morgellons, and bacteria that is deep inside the body, usually existing in the joints Then hydrogen peroxide drops is used too, If those were eliminated, than what I found is the enormous calcification that occurs whenever fluoride is of high level. It's the calcium that clogs the capillaries. The counter remedy to reduce calcium (fluoride tends to increase blood calcium as is metabolic acidosis). And therefore a more useful remedy is to reduce blood calcium to normal levels using the lemon and baking soda, which is a citrate, or a more stronger disodium EDTA, pH buffered to 7.5 pH. Citrate can also chelate out the excess calcium but alkalization also reduces the leeching effects that occurs with blood acidity.

Therefore to prevent further problems of excessive blood calcium, it is often the alkalization that has to be added. A borax is never taken directly but is always diluted with plenty of water, such as a liter of water. Quite often most of the problems I have encountered with borax used is instructions were not followed, and the dose exceeded the instructions, or not understanding proper alkalization during borax use, which is required if the body already had metabolic acidosis. If blood calcium is high it is also good to use the lemon and baking soda remedy where the resulting reaction is a citrate which reduces the blood calcium too. Weight loss is often from the effects of surfactant properties in removing excessive oils that blocks normal hormone functioning that causes weight gains in some people who already had high blood fats.

Ted

Replied by Lilly
Margate, Florida
06/27/2009
Just wanted to reply to the borax poisoning.. I really don't think his reaction on the hands or any part of the skin is from the Borax..I have been using it for months now from the grocery store, I love it and also use it on my girls 5 & 7. Every now and then my skin would itch for no reason almost like crawling and it would keep me up at night scratching, untill I found your site and tried it. I keep it in a tupaware in the shower, soap up a wash towel then pour the borax in the towel (no measuring) just make a mound and wash my whole body w/it...it feels sooo good and I sleep like a baby, no itching, also do the same w/my girls and my husband, it feels like exfoliating and everyone loves it here, we have had no adverse reactions except soft beautiful skin. Thanks to everyone...I love your site and read for hrs.
Replied by Bev
Elroy, Wi
08/25/2011
I don't know if I can help you. I have central hypothyroidism with undetectable TSH. Besides taking Armour 2 gr. I have adrenal failure and I am on hydrocortisone. I follow the dietary recommendations of Ray Peat PhD. www.raypeat.com

Posted by Bev (Elroy, WI) on 12/13/2007
5 out of 5 stars

I had been treated with zithromax for pneumonia but what seemed to trigger the severe, sudden onset of reflux was taking 200mg of ibuprofen twice within the week for pain in my neck during that time. The ibuprofen caused a gastric ulcer since I had been on periodic courses of prednisone earlier for acute asthma which resolved after seven weeks of antibiotics. When I got the pneumonia I had no asthma but a high fever, fatigue and pain in the neck. Steroids can cause ulcers but I didn't think the effect would last that long as I was not taking any at the time. I woke up choking at night with reflux and started protonix. Stopped after about one year and since use digestive enzymes, honey, camomile, ACV with baking soda. Caution: Prevacid ia a fluoridated medication. Along with the reflux, I began severe hypothyroid symptoms I believe caused by Diflucan and Advair which are both fluoridated. Have been doing the borax detox twice a week and have reduced thyroid medication from 3 1/2 to 2 1/2 gr Armour.


Posted by Bev (Elroy, Wisconsin) on 09/11/2007
5 out of 5 stars

After reading the info on fluoride on Earth Clinic I realised that the onset of my severe hypothyroid symptoms of extreme fatigue, weight gain, hair loss etc. was caused by taking repeated doses of Flucanazole to prevent yeast during repeated antibiotics for acute asthma [healed after 90 days on Zithromax]. My TSH [thyroid stimulating hormone] is less than .01 which shows hyperthyroidism so I have had a hard time finding a doctor willing to treat me. Now I know it is because the fluoride inhibits the pituitary gland from producing TSH. I live in a fluoridated community so my exposure has been long term. For several years I have had reverse osmosis water but it is very disappointing to find there is no acceptable whole house removal system. It was recommended to me to take cool showers as skin absorption is greater than drinking. I am hoping to convince our city council to drop the fluoride. I was happy to hear that borax can be used for detox. Yesterday I mixed 1/8 tsp of borax and sea salt in one L of water. During the night I awoke with a headache. By morning it was so bad that I vomited the aspirin, snack and enzymes I took to combat it. I couldn't keep anything other than sips down without dry heaves until early evening.I am thinking that is a detox reaction. I am going to hold off another day and dilute it further. I currently take Armour Thyroid and about $400 of supplements, mainly enzymes to prevent reflux, keep spinal alignment, joint stiffness, fatigue, sinus infections, constipation, hair loss and all those other nasty hypothyroid effects. I was also taking the apple cider vinegar and baking soda [about 8 days now] at the same time so may be that was too much at once with the borax. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thank you for this wonderful website.

Replied by Guilherme
Los Angeles, Ca, Us
06/20/2011
HI BEV, I HAVE hypothyroid LIKE YOU AND ASK IF YOU CAN HELP ME A BIT.
Replied by Conniemerie
Twin Lakes, Wi
12/01/2012
Re: hypothyroid.... The herb "ginger" slows down your basal metabolic rate; there are probably others that I don't know about. Repeated lung ailments can cause the constricting of intercostal muscles with each bout so that asthma gets worse over time. You could try going to a therapeutic massage therapist to have those muscles addressed. Also, the essential oils naouli, peppermint and eucalyptus applied over your whole rib cage during a bout can open up your airways.

For psoriasis you can also take a bath with 1 cup of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide plus 1 cup of borax and completely submerge yourself in water as hot as you can tolerate. Keep refreshing with hot water to take a bath for at least 1/2 hour. Shower off totally. Anyone that has any toxic issues should take as many antioxidants, take as many oxygen producing supplements as they can in addition to keeping their bodies in an alkaline condition.

Last, but not least.... Anyone that wants to treat themselves needs to read up on how their bodies work and what their bodies need for good health and go about learning what works best for them. Become self-reliant and stop attempting to put the onus of your health onto someone else. We're adults here; let's act like it. While it's good to ask advice; ultimately, that's all it is. You decide whether or not you'll take it.



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