Vertigo Remedies: Q&A
Last Modified on May 06, 2012
05/20/2012: Natalie from Detroit Lakes, Mn, Us replies: Steve, I have lived with Meniere's Disease for 11 years now and I had a great deal of difficulty in obtaining a diagnosis. After an 11 month search, I found a world renown specialist in my state and have remained under his care. According to his research, ppl suffering incapacitating Meniere's symptoms may test negative about 52% of the time because any test is just a snapshot of the condition in that moment. The ENG or Caloric testing is the most reliable; postural testing is useless, although still utilized in some clinics.
I have gone the medical route in coping with Meniere's and I have tremendous faith in my Dr. I would advise that you research and go to the top specialist in your area - NYC will allow you many options. There is no telling what your future may hold as there are many variations and subsets of this disease syndrome and it is progressive in nature.
I now have total loss of bilateral vestibular function and have had one vestibular nerve chemically destroyed. In addition, and as an adjunct to the progressive nature of this disease, I now have persistent BPPV. This does not respond to the CRP procedures because the advanced Meniere's has caused damage to the Utricle portion of the semi-circular canals. (This is very complex stuff! )
I am constantly dizzy and while the vertigo is controlled with meds, I am imbalanced all the time. I happened upon this site while researching the issue of body pH and the possible benefits of increasing my body pH - with simple ingestion of Sodium Bicarb - to aid in dissolving the calcium carbonate stones that the damaged Utricles can no longer resorb.
I wish you the very best in obtaining a diagnosis and proper medical and alternative management of your condition. Meniere's is a tough road to walk and I hope that you have a simple form of the disease; a variation that is self-limiting.
08/07/2012: Syed from Miami, Florida replies: I agree on the idea that since the inner ear is damaged that the crystals are now free floating inside the ear. I would like to invite you to a facebook page called "Living with Menieres" as it would be a good place for you to exchange medical therapies and ideas with others that are looking for some level of relief.
08/07/2012: Syed from Miami, Florida replies: After taking the Sodium Bicarb how do you feel or has it provided you with any benefit at all? Also, did your doctor provide you with this medical treatment and if you dont mind please share his name. Thank you, Syed
06/24/2013: Anonymouscat from Paradisecity, Ca replies: Since your test was negative you need to look at other causative factors, one is low blood pressure, thyroid issues, hormonal issues heart valve issue and the most overlooked reason may be teeth infections, root canal in general wreak havoc on health. Wisdom teeth if infected or impacted even in the slightest are known to caused dizziness, since the ear maintains balance of our bodies and if the ear is anatomically close to the infected teeth this directly effects the balance. Also inner ear infections may cause dizziness. Also vitamin defienciencies such as iron or B12.
I spoke to a local pharmacy and he said this definitely isn't normal.
01/18/2013: Sv8lana from Vancouver, Canada replies: I get motion sickness even in a car (unless I am sitting in the front and watching the road the whole time ).
After a one day ferry ride (on which I didnt feel motionsickness) after getting off the boat the ground was slightly moving for the next day (24 hours). I am female and was 25 at the time. So I am saying it happens to me too.
So, my question is should I keep it up at the high dosage and for how long?
Any other suggestions on what else I can take to feel much better?
05/25/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Yes, you should keep up with the dosages. Also it appears the Meneire's Disease is a resilient one. If it doesn't go away in a couple of days, take glutamine 500 or 1000 mg along with lysine. It's just a matter of getting rid of the virus. If there is any other suggestions, take zinc in addition to it but limit the intake to 25 mg zinc gluconate to 1 week. The zinc is taken only once however.
07/20/2009: Lisa from Copenhagen, Denmark replies: I would suggest that your mother see an expert in Dizziness. One of the best clinics in the US in located in Miami, Florida. Most doctors are not trained in dizziness management. Google balance training courses and you should find information regarding programs that teach doctors and other professionals how to treat dizziness. You should also find the program that I am referring to but I would like you to read the information yourself.
I had a patient that had vertigo for 25 years before coming to see me. The cause was benign proximal vertigo (BPPV). It is probably the most common cause of dizziness. One of the main causes of BPPV is a sedimentary lifestyle. Using the Epley's maneuver, we cured her dizziness in 10 minutes- completely. Imagine how mad she was that she had lived with it and taken drugs to suppress it all those years for nothing.
Vertigo in aging is usually a form of Benign Proximal vertigo. It occurs when the small calcium deposits (oticonia) fall out of the gelatinous mass in the utrical and into the semicircular canals. Normally the body washes away these stray deposits but in some people they build up- think kidney stones. The cure for this is through movement. The fluid in the semicircular canals need to move to wash away the deposits.
The sequence of movements- called an epley's maneuver- starts sitting upright then you have to briskly lie on your back with your head turned to the symptomatic side at a 45 degree angle. Your head should be kept in this position for 30 to 60 seconds, based on the duration of the vertigo (when I treat I measure by observation of your eye movements (for nystagmus). You will probably be dizzy for the first 10 seconds.Next turn your head to the other side, and keep it in that position for another 30 to 60 seconds. You may be dizzy again. Then roll in the same direction onto your side, carrying your head along so that it is pointed about 45 degrees, nose down. This position is also maintained for 30 seconds, and another burst of dizziness may occur. Finally, return to sitting. It is common to be very dizzy at this point for about 15 seconds. Remain with the head tilted a bit down for one minute. Usually I am concerned that people will get dizzy and fall. It is important to let yourself get dizzy and it is a side effect you cannot stop. I always recommend you have someone with you. When I treat, I often need to hold a person in the correct position, and it usually takes all my strength to do so since they fight me. If the maneuver is not done entirely or correctly, it will still work but will take significantly longer. When done correctly, vertigo can be cured after one or two times.
Other things that also work well are rolling your head in a circle. Remember that dizzy is not a bad thing. If you hold your head in one position so that you do not get dizzy, then you will likely not be able to get rid of the dizziness if it is caused by BPPV. Think of a sprained ankle, if you want to cure it, the cure is to walk gently on it. Yes it hurts but the pain is longer and no less intense if you coddle it.
Last March, I changed my diet to all Organic foods. Starting about 7 weeks ago, I take ACV & BS daily, 1-3 times. I take 250 mg Magnesium 5 days of the week. I take B Complex, 800 IU Vitamin E, 1000 mg Vitamin C, Ginko Biloba, all daily. I have been doing this for 7 weeks with no vertigo. I thought I had finally solved the mystery. It's back. I felt it coming for days, held it at bay by avoiding obvious triggers, but it eventually hit. Severe, just to the point of vomiting but I didn't (I have become quite experienced at not moving my head during episodes, which helps fend off vomiting to some degree). I even tried Epley Manuever, had no effect. What can I add to what I'm already doing? What should I change? PLEASE HELP! Thank you for this website, it has changed my life!
June from Sheboyan Falls, WI replies: 6/13/2008: Thank you Ted for your response! You certainly gave me a lot to consider. I will continue to do research until I figure this out. It's obvious from your reply you feel there is some nerve damage. Here are some more facts to shed more light on this. I only started taking supplements 7 weeks ago, but the symptoms started 16 years ago, so while the supplements may be harmful, they are not the original root of the symptoms.
The vomiting only happens with the severe vertigo episodes. I don't vomit otherwise. I don't use chemicals like benzene, kerosene, thinner, etc. I only put organic, whole natural things on and in my body. I absolutely avoid artificial sweetners, especially aspartame. I will look up the other names it is hidden under to help be sure. I do not eat or purchase processed foods at all, so I have few labels to read.
The only water I drink or cook with is Evian, absolutely no tap water.
You mention 'acidosis in the brain.' My latest PH test revealed levels in my body that were a bit acidic. What is the best way to ensure my PH levels stay alkaline? Are the PH levels in the body the same as the ones you refer to in the brain?
I do have many mercury fillings, I will look into getting those removed, I've wanted to for many years.
I do not use antibiotics. On the rare occasion I see a doctor and he prescribes antibiotics, I throw the prescription away.
I do use an all natural toothpaste that has peppermint as an ingredient. I will find a new one.
I will avoid mycotoxin in the foods you mention. It will be hard not to eat peanuts!
I have had low blood pressure my whole life. What can I do for this, if anything?
I do believe I have an issue of heavy metals. When the tinnitus is at its worst, I can feel in my body things like turning the computer off, the phone ringing, and lightning. I will try the cilantro. Are there other ways to reduce heavy metals?
I will try all the things you suggest. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart!!"
6/16/2008: Ted from Bangkok replies, "Most of the vertigo problems appears to be the low blood pressure. A simple way to normalize the blood pressure is 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt plus 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in on liter of drinking water, shake well before using. In event of a severe vertigo, a 1/16 teaspoon of sea salt in 1/2 glass of water is a quick an easy way to raise the blood pressure and stop the vertigo by temporary normalizing the blood pressure.
A vertigo can exist from two source I have found, one is gum damage, cavities which reaches deep into the the teeth and pathogens go into the bloodstream, causing vertigo by what I called low grade fever which is a weak from of septicemia. A remedy against a weak form of septicemia is the sea salt mentioned, but some aspirin may also help.
Brain pH is not the same as the other ones, unfortunately. The only pH we can check is the saliva pH which measures potassium in which potassium bicarbonate a or potassium citrate, or is used, and the urinary pH, which measures th sodium, in which sodium bicarbonate is used to alkalized that.
The brain is different. If the cavities, and other thing enters in the mouth, it goes to the brain as in case of infected wisdom teeth for example. This low grade fever or septicemia leads to vertigo too not just the heavy metals. The best way to know of oral problems where wounds are exposed and enters the blood system is a dentist. The mercury is obvious a big problem that suppresses the immune system.
As to other ways to reduce heavy metals, cilantro is one, not taken too much with plenty of breaks, is the EDTA, and chlorella. The chlorella may help some people, but I think should be taken with a 2 or 3 day breaks.
Alkalizing and generally Paleolithic diet is rich in bicarbonates that modern man is low in such diets anyway, including the lack of Omega 3 and excess eating of both grains food, sugars, mushrooms and dairy products.
06/12/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear June:
Quite often, supplements can't be taken everyday. I will backfire. For example, I prefer vitamin B complex such as once every 3 days. Certain elements in vitamin B complex is problematic, usually the hydrochloride found in either thiamine hydrochloride (which I preferred thiamine mononitrate), the other is the B6 pyridoxine hydrochloride, which I prefer pyridoxine phosphate. In practice, it's difficult to avoid the B6 but supplement company do have thiamine mononitrate which will lessen the effects of the acid problem that burns the nervous system.
In case there is this problem of coming back, the best thing I would do is to stop taking supplements for about a week. Then I will start taking one by one to see which supplements is causing the problem. Still I would not take it everyday, especially the b complex and vitamin A & E. B complex because it has acid, called hydrochloride. Vitamin E and vitamin A because it blocks the neural transmission or chemical messenger and is accumulative if taken too frequently. The vomiting is an usual one, so I would check the labels on magnesium whether it is magnesium gluconate or other forms. The most problem is the magnesium aspartate...which works like aspartame and destroys the nerves. Many children's supplement and adults supplements now contain aspartame which may aggravate the conditions as it degerates into formaldehyde. Its the same problem from excessive use of chemicals mostly benzene, kerosine, thinner etc.
The biggest problem I encountered in nerve damage comes from artificial sugars, such as aspartame which degrades to formaldehyde causing extreme metabolic acidosis. These destroy nerves cells, but so do fluoridated water and chlorinated water - which are negatively synergistic that means it effects you in a really bad way. So is immunizations, which has heavy metals, but so is amalgam fillings which contain mercury leading to tinnitis. Frequent antibiotic use increases tinnitus and hearing loss from over accumulation of heavy metals, but interestingly, the mycotoxin are also found in antibiotics, but it is also found in common foods just as well. For example, mycotoxin that destroy nerves are peanuts, peanut butter, frequent use of peppermint products (e.g. toothpaste), potatoes (they are grown underground), common table salt (they contain aluminum silicate), wheat products (they are a big problem molds grow easily and contain mycotoxin), mushooms (it's a fungus), yeast, dairy products, etc.
Vomiting is sometimes caused by excessive zinc, but I haven't seen this in taking other supplements except from taking too frequent dose of vitamin A.
Granulated lecithin may help rebuilding of myelin sheaths. A change in alkalizing remedy may also be needed. Instead of ACV and baking soda, I might consider 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken twice a day in 1/2 or preferably 1 glass of water. But it is best taken in the morning and early evening.
If sleeping problem is indicated, then the brain metabolic process is high level of acidosis. In which case I might consider carbicarb remedy, such as 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda) in 1 glass of water taken twice a day. The 1 glass maybe too much for some people, so it can be taken slowly over the course of 1-2 hour for just one full glass.
One additional information is the lack of omega 3 can also initiate these conditions and hence fish oil that contains DHA and EPA might be taken usually once a day, to raise the level and after a couple of weeks, the dose is pared down to maybe once to three times a week.
What I do know is if I am well from tinnitus and other conditions, I would definitely pare down the dose by taking them less and less frequently or even stop taking them and will continue when they do come back. The body doesn't need constant barrage of daily dose of supplements. It is usually fine once it goes back to normal.
Fluoride, chlorine and artificial sweeteners especially aspartame is what I would look carefully to avoid. They are hidden in water from chlorine and fluorine, and artificial sweetners are now added in may foods and supplements. I would make a habit of reading labels. Companies now don't even need to put them in labels, in which case I would call the factory or simply just stop buying processed foods.
The four major things that helped my hearing loss was avoiding aspartame products, some vitamin B complex, and baking soda. When did get better I took b complex only once a week, but continued the baking soda. Magnesium usually helps tinnitus. Good sleep also helps.
What is missing appears to be taking supplements too frequently and not taking lecithin, and possibly just taking baking soda and leaving out ACV may help, as well as avoiding common toxins and food intolerances. There are other factors mentioned here such as lack of omega 3 from fish oils and perhaps once a week 1000 mg evening primrose oil.
Sometimes the hearing loss is due to excess heavy metals. In that case I just take a small amount of cilantro, once every other day, such as a tablespoonful of cilantro leaves. The heavy metals once reduced won't interfere with neural conduction.
Excessive acidity in the brain can be helped with the mentioned carbicarb remedy also deserves some mentioned. However, vertigo often is a sign of low blood pressure. In this case 1/8 teaspoon of sea salt in one glass of water should help, one SINGLE dose only. Usually no need to take any more. Electrolytes imbalances is a common problem of vertigo and sports drink WITHOUT ASPARTAME may help, which has some potassium in them. These are usually taken once also.
If the problem didn't improve, I might get myself a hair mineral analysis, which is a more expensive route.