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Hey guys, the only reason I joined Earth Clinic which I've found EXTREMELLY usefull is to tell you guys that through trial and Error I've found out not only what causes perioral dermatitis but what has eliminated mine 100%, with no remission.
To start out with back ground I'm a guy age 21, and I was one of the lucky 10% to get this crappy thing, and I've got to say I'm really sorry for everyone who gets it because if you don't know why it happens it is VERY hard to get rid of. I had this disease for 1 month which made me not go to classes, completely avoid my friends, and not go home on weekends for the humility of it. I felt terrible and because of that, I did research every day, for around 4 hours each day and here Is what I've discovered.
WHAT IS IT
1.The causes are many times different but the symptoms are always the same with the redness around your mouth and tiny bumps filled with fluid is cause by an immune system reaction to something. If you'll notice it is somewhat similar to a poison ivy rash in the fact that some foreign body is cause your skin to inflame and create those bumps.
CAUSE: the reason why this is so hard to treat and there are so many different things that seem to work is because there are different causes to it, but there are 2 main ones and 1 suspected cause.
1. Yeast infection in the superficial parts of the skin but ALSO in the deeper tissues.
2. Allergic reaction to common substances, the main culprits: Lauryl sulfate, Flouride, and some waters (the trace minerals in some people's water). Just think of what comes in contact with the inside or outside of your mouth.
3. Demodex mites - Not as common as the first 2
4. a fungus, similar to foot fungus. But more often is yeast specifically which is #1 above.
WHO/WHY YOU GOT THIS:
1. Immuno compromised people- Many people who get this, get this just after chemo therapy because Chemotherapy kills your immune system allowing the yeast or fungus to thrive and infect the tissue around your mouth. I however am and extremelly healthy athletic college engineering student yet I got it, so why? Well the symptoms first began when I had 4 exams over 2 day and when I had 4 homework assignments and 1 project due on those days as well. For 2 days I did'nt sleep at all, did work constantly and ate a whole 3 lb bag of Skittles. So I was stressed out, no sleep, and ate a load of sugar.
ANSWERS TO REOCURRING PROBLEMS AND PINPOINTING WHICH CAUSE IS YOURS
STEROID CREME- Do not take these, If you use steroid creme on it, it should clear up for a little while because steroids supress your immune system which would take away redness, but if yours is an infection: yeast or fungus after a few days it will come back worse because the yeast had time to grow unempeded by your immune system for however long you used the creme. Steroids only treat symptoms and will make infections worse.
ANTIBIOTICS- Do not take these, If you do, it may clear up some, have no effect, or make it worse. But what will happen is, this will kill all the bacteria in your stomach and within your body. If yeast is cause-ing yours then you just eliminated all competition of the yeast and they will grow even faster within your GI track.
EATING SUGAR- Do not eat sugar, If you eat sugar you not only does sugar tend to make illness's worse, but if yeast is causing yours, this is the root of your problem. Yeast can only live by eating sugar. Their sugar comes from what sugar we eat. Eating soft drinks, and candies are the worst, Carbohydrates are also forms of sugar but they metabolize slower.
APPLE CIDER VINEGAR- By applying this to your face, yeast have been known to die through many studies in the presence of apple cider vinegar. By putting it on your face, it will kill bacteria, and fungus's that are present on the outer layers. This will kill off a large growth of whatever is there cause our skin to become inflammed but get better shortly afterwards because you killed off most of whatever was growing there.
WHY APPLE CIDER VINEGAR WORKS FOR A WHILE BUT THEN IT COMES BACK- The reason why it comes back is because when you kill off whatevers on the outside of your skin it not only kills the fungus/yeast but also your good bacteria floura which lives there. So it will kills off the bad stuff but also the good stuff. And both will grow back after a period of a few days. But for most, the reason is because the dermatitis also has yeast growing in the lower levels of your skin where apple cider vinegar does not reach. This is why when you first got it you had a weak immune system/ ate a lot of sugar, The immune system doesn't directly affect the outside of your skin meaning it must be deeper as well. Similar to a deep tissue infection around a cut. When you get a cut the skin around it turns red if theres an infection, which looks irrely similar to the red ring that stays around your mouth even though you get rid of the bumps.
WHY DO MAINLY GIRLS GET THIS- There are a few reason for this. One is that many times it caused by yeast, and the natural ph of a girls body is more inclined for groth of yeast. Another is because of makeup and steroid cremes typically applied to the face can either cause allergic reactions to the ingredients in them or interfere in general with the skin's functioning making it more inclined to become infected. But a very large overlooked one is that the one thing most guys do which girls to not is shave their faces. Many shaving creme's contain over 2 types of alcohol alone, and many other substances which kill off bacteria and yeast never allowing either of them to become overcrowded creating an infection. So in essence guys sterilize their faces around 3 times a week without ever knowing it.
WHY THIS ONLY OCCURS AROUND YOUR MOUTH- This is the first question I asked myself when I began to try to figure out why this disease happens. And the answer dawned on me one day after talking to my mom. As when I first got this disease it started out looking like one pimple and soon spread around my mouth, but why did'nt it keep traveling and go to the skin above my cheek bones and down my chin where I also get acne. This is because if yours is caused by an allergic reaction to something, you must mainly come in contact with it around your mouth. But if yours is caused by some kind of an infection (Yeast), it must need to be in an environment that has moisture. Which explains why this many times spreads and becomes periocullar dermatitis (around the eyes). Because that is another place which has constant moisture near the skin. And for girls who have this, most likely they are also having a larger number of yeast infections in the other area of the body (You know what I'm talking about)
HOW TO GET RID OF THIS IN 1 WEEK
FOR THOSE CAUSE BY ALLERGIC REACTION:
If the cause of yours is from exposure to your tap water, Lauryl sulfate, sodium benzoate, some time of food, makeup, soap, detergent, etc. Then your treatment is very easy. If you can find out which substance you are using that causes is, simply discontinue its use. If not then I would recommend changing all you are using to all natural, free and Clear type of products. If this does not correct it, then began to try to notice anything you do unusual which causes it to flare up, or what you did over the span of a day before it flared up.
FOR THOSE CAUSED BY YEAST/FUNGUS/REOCCURING INFECTION:
This is what I had.... And I'm a guy -_- By now when you are reading this you have most likely tried EVERYTHING under the sun and are thinking "Here we go again with something that worked for someone else but probably won't work for me" But I promise you this will work because the treatment is up to you identifying what makes it better, and adapting.
First thing is that yeast can only live by metabolizing sugars. So we are going to want to starve them out, which does not take too long. So for a week (I cheated and it only took 2-3 days but mine maybe wasn't as bad as many of yours) do not eat any simply sugar: soft drinks, gatorade, Milk (has lactose) etc. Look at the nutritious facts of what you are about to eat and look at the grams of sugar. You want 0 but you can get away with low amounts like 1-2 grams.
Second do not eat carbohydrates- they get converted straight to sugar by yeast (this will be hard to do as carbs are in almost everything). your diet will manly be fats, and vegetables, and some dairy like eggs but not milk, and cheese is alright in low ammounts.
third I ate about a half a spoonfull of ground cinammon with each meal. If you add cinnammon to bread with yeast, that bread does not rise when you cook it as I found out through research that cinnammon completely inhibits yeast growth. The cinnammon you will have to mix with something like yogurt to eat, which the beauty of it is that yogurt has sugar but it doesnt matter because the cinnammon is inhibiting the yeast from growing with it.
fourth drink a lot of water. This will lower your blood sugar. Look up articles on how to reduce blood sugar in general if you want help. cinnammon convieniently and coincidentally also is used by those with diabetes to lower blood sugar.
Ok this is to kill the yeast in your stomach/intestines and to lower you blood sugar. You also want to reintroduce good bacteria back or give them time to grow back before you start eating sugar again. While you are doing this you should raise your immune system
fifth- I accomplished this by eating about 4 cloves of garlic a day, and drinking a lot of water, along with vitamin C. You should have to pee a lot from doing this.
Now to get rid of the bulk of Yeast/fungus around your mouth.
sixth- I used an antifungal creme around my mouth about twice a day. As well one day I made a cinnammon paste and but it around my mouth and It burnt but not sure if it did anything.
seventh- now the only reason the fungus is around your mouth is because of the moisture inside your mouth, so that made me think the inside of your mouth must be a part of the problem as well. This is why it is so hard to get rid of completely. But to solve this when I chewed up the garlic I made sure I rubbed them around the inside of my mouth where the perorial dermatitis was. As well I took ACV and rubbed it around the inside of my mouth about twice a day
NOTES: If you have trouble getting the diet down just search the internet for Candida diet. Their diet is extremelly strict and I got rid of mine with hitting just the major points of the candida diet and for not near as long as they want you to do it. As well common substances which kill fungus's if antifugal creme's dont are: garlic, Tea tree oil, ACV, and VIOLET EXTRACT. I've never seen anything bad about violet extract but I ran across it in one forum and My mom is a nurse and after I mentioned it to her she told me that they use something similar with violet in the name. And I was like hmmmm and looked and found out that some compound in violet flowers just beats the s### out of yeasts. =)
Now after about 4 days your skin on the outside will start peeling, and then for those next few days you'll notice the red fade out completely. And then you can start eating sugary drinks again and living your life. Just never eat to much sugar again for long periods of time allowing yeast the time to overcrowd your good bacteria and you'll never get this again. Unless you get diabetes, AIDS, or something which causes your blood sugar to be high all the time. But good luck and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on here because I know how crappy this stuff it. And Thanks to every one of you who helped teach me through your experiences. I'm PD free and eating soft drinks again, love yall.
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